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Jindal Chastises Romney for further dividing country

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Gov. Jindal: Romney ‘absolutely wrong’ to blame loss on Obama ‘gifts’ for voters

By Alicia M. Cohn - 11/15/12 08:13 AM ET

A former surrogate for Mitt Romney's campaign called the former GOP nominee "absolutely wrong" in blaming his recent election loss on President Obama giving "gifts" to black, Hispanic and young voters.



"I absolutely reject that notion," Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said Wednesday on a conference call with donors, according to the Los Angeles Times. "I don’t think that represents where we are as a party and where we’re going as a party. And that has got to be one of the most fundamental takeaways from this election."


Romney, speaking to his own donors earlier in the day, characterized the president's “very generous” healthcare reform legislation and deferred deportation policy as "highly motivational" to targeted demographics.

“The president’s campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift — so he made a big effort on small things," he said. "Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars.”

But Jindal, at a meeting of the Republican Governors Association (RGA), criticized the Romney campaign for failing to communicate a "vision" to the American people. He argued that the campaign, in part, allowed the election to become a "contest between personalities."

“We have got to stop dividing the American voters,” he said. “If we’re going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage, and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly. One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes. And second, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream, period.”




Jindal, the incoming chairman of the RGA, has garnered significant speculation that he might run for the Republican presidential nomination.

Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) said on CNN's "Starting Point" Thursday morning that he agrees with Jindal "that Gov. Romney's remarks were way off base."

Van Hollen said the remarks served as a reminder of the controversial "47 percent" video that was secretly taped at a private fundraiser for Romney earlier this year.

“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what,” Romney says in the video. “All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing, to you name it.

"My job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives,” he added.

Romney's remarks from the event became an effective Democratic attack through much of the later campaign, with the president emphasizing that he cares about "100 percent" of Americans and arguing that Romney's policies would hurt the middle class.
 

hopalong

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You just dribble in your depends when you can find ANY little piece of crap against the conservitves don't you....Get a life,,or better yet tell your HANDLER to let you think for yourself, if that is even possible anymore :roll:
 

Mike

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Just because the Republicans don't "Tow the Party Line" like the Democrats do, there is something inherently wrong?

Every Republican doesn't have the same frame of mind. Hitler would not have tolerated that in his "Party".

You want to talk "Cults"? There is not a larger one than the Democrats. :roll:
 
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Republicans Condemn Romney's Remarks about Gifts


In a conference call to donors on Wednesday, Mitt Romney said that Obama won because he gave "gifts" to women, young people, blacks, and Latinos, in effect that they were bribed to vote for him. This tone-deaf comment brought instantaneous and near universal condemnation from Republicans, who quickly realized that insulting the voters you want to get is not a good strategy. On the facts, when any President carries out his campaign promises, this results in "gifts" to some people. If Romney had won and had reduced taxes by 20%, that would have been a big "gift" to people who pay high taxes, that is, the very rich. In a sense, "gifts" are an essential part of democracy. People support particular candidates because they hope he will give them what he promised.

The problem with Romney's remark is that it is an echo of the "47%" remark he made at a fund raiser earlier this year. What he was really implying both times is that 53% of Americans are hard working and the 47% have managed to get laws passed to take away some of their hard-earned money and give it to lazy people who don't deserve anything. The responses to Romney's most recent comment were swift and harsh. Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA), said: "I absolutely reject that notion, that description." Gov. Susana Martinez (R-NM) said: "We have to start electing people who look like their communities." At this point, Republicans want Romney to exit stage right and never be seen or heard from again. It is rare for a party to reject its own candidate so strongly and so quickly after a loss. John McCain and John Kerry certainly were not told to shut up and leave after their respective losses.


The young gun future major players of the Repubs are setting Romney's burning boat adrift into the sea- hopefully to never be heard of again.....
 

Steve

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It is rare for a party to reject its own candidate so strongly and so quickly after a loss

rare?... the fact is he was "never" the conservative choice.. but more of a preferred media candidate they deemed electable..

We as conservatives have had enough of liberals,.. and Rino's.. just when we thought the old liberals were gone.. they prop up another party elite favorite..

in other words,.. he was their candidate of choice.. and like many others the left has used, and thrown under a bus.. they no longer need him to get Obama re-elected,. and we no longer want him...
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
The young gun future major players of the Repubs are setting Romney's burning boat adrift into the sea- hopefully to never be heard of again.....

No need for the old man. Romney has already said he is not going to run again. Guess he'll go back into business and make a few hundred million. :wink:
 

hopalong

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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
The young gun future major players of the Repubs are setting Romney's burning boat adrift into the sea- hopefully to never be heard of again.....

No need for the old man. Romney has already said he is not going to run again. Guess he'll go back into business and make a few hundred million. :wink:

But oldtimer does not understand that Romney id not running agian,,,he just finds it easier to listen to his handlers get his new supply of DEPENDs, dribble down his leg and post his junk like he is told!!!!


Eh oldblow hard??????
 

gmacbeef

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Note to Oldtimer, If the Democrats, especially aleft wingnut,sorry SOB, like VanHollen are agreeing with Jindal,then he's probably WRONG. Jindal might as well not waste his time ,as he can't win either.
 
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Republican Attacks on Romney Continue Unabated


After Mitt Romney's remarks about Obama giving "gifts" to minorities, women, and young people, virtually no prominent Republican has come to his defense. Instead, attacks on him have only increased. Even in the absence of them, it would be much easier to blame the election loss on his being a poor salesman, rather than on the fact that a majority of the voters didn't like what he was selling. But now it has gotten much worse. Losers are often criticized, but one has to go a long way back to find any losing candidate who has been repudiated as much by his own party as Romney. Even George McGovern, who was beaten far worse than Romney, was not the subject of such bitter attacks as Romney. The Democratic Party quickly moved to the center after McGovern's loss in 1972, but McGovern personally was not the subject of the kind of vituperation we are seeing now. When he died last month, McGovern was largely regarded as a hero, someone who flew 35 missions over German-occupied territory in WWII and after he entered politics, someone who fought for what he believed in, even if it wasn't popular at the time. It is hard to imagine any future obituary of Romney saying: "He didn't win, but he spent his life fighting for a cause that millions of others believed in." More likely is: "He made a lot of money in private equity and he thought that qualified him to be President. Because then-President Obama hadn't been able to dig the economy out of the hole he inherited from George Bush, Romney almost made it." The obituaries for Twinkies are probably going to be better than what Romney gets, and Twinkies are the ultimate symbol of junk food.

Bold prediction: Romney will not be a speaker at the 2016 Republican National Convention. In fact, he will not even attend it.

Romney sinks quickly in Republicans’ esteem

By Dan Eggen, Nov 16, 2012 05:35 PM EST

The Washington Post Published: November 16


Ten days after failing to sail into the White House, Mitt Romney is already being tossed overboard by his party.

The former Massachusetts governor — who attracted $1 billion in funding and 59 million votes in his bid to unseat President Obama — has rapidly become persona non grata to a shellshocked Republican Party, which appears eager to map out its future without its 2012 nominee.

.Romney was by all accounts stunned at the scale of his Nov. 6 loss, dropping quickly from public view after delivering a short concession speech to a half-empty Boston arena. Then came a series of tin-eared remarks this week blaming his loss on Obama’s “gifts” to African Americans and Hispanics, among others — putting him squarely at odds with party leaders struggling to build bridges with minorities.

“You can’t expect to be a leader of all the people and be divisive,” New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) said Friday on MSNBC, adding: “Someone asked me, ‘Why did Mitt Romney lose?’ And I said, ‘Because he got less votes than Barack Obama, that’s why.’ ”

It’s a remarkable fall from grace for Romney, who just 10 days ago held the chance of a Republican return to power at the White House.

The messy aftermath of his failure suggests that Romney, a political amalgam with no natural constituency beyond the business community, is unlikely to play a significant role in rebuilding his party, many Republicans said this week.

“He’s not going to be running for anything in the future,” said Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (R-Idaho), who sharply criticized Romney’s comments about Hispanics. “He’s not our standard-bearer, unfortunately.”

Romney adviser Stuart Stevens strongly disagreed, calling Romney “the most popular Republican on the national scene at the moment,” given the votes he received on Election Day. Views of defeated candidates can change dramatically over time, Stevens added.

“Even those who have been critical of the campaign on our side realize in the end that Governor Romney was resonating with millions of Americans and was running the kind of campaign we could all be proud of,” Stevens said. “I think the governor can have the political road of his choosing. I have no idea what that would be.”

The fate of failed presidential nominees varies widely in modern times. Republican nominee and former Senate majority leader Bob Dole still wields influence as a party sage since his failed 1996 run, while Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is still sparring publicly with the man who defeated him in 2008. Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.), who lost to President George W. Bush in 2004, is now a candidate to be Obama’s secretary of defense or state in the second term.

Former vice president Al Gore (D) went into the political wilderness for a time after his 2000 loss to Bush before remaking himself as an antiwar and environmental crusader. The most famous loser of all might be Richard M. Nixon, who was defeated in a presidential bid in 1960 and a California gubernatorial race in 1962, only to come back to win the White House in 1968.

Yep- Mitt is another of those old grey haired rich men that need to go off and enjoy their money...

I'm liking Christie more each day-- he doesn't mince his words or whine and make up Bull Sh*t excuses like most the ********* bunch on here seems to do...
 

Steve

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and someone should tell Obama supporter, tax hiking Christie to shut up as well... cause right now, the only ones listening to him are liberals..

until a person or group is willing to accept the problem, there will be no solution.. and our spending nationally is out of control..


the un-needed freebie programs are a huge part of the problem.. a problem that at least Romney has the courage to address...
 

Faster horses

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I'm very disappointed at the Republicans over the mistreatment of Romney.
He's a good man, he gave it his all. That's not saying he needed better advice from his advisors. I'm sure he could have given Obama plenty in that last debate, after all, he has been around. He's no novice. I think he was advised to lay low, which was a mistake. He should have punched Obama hard about Benghazi. For heavens sake, some of the people who only listen to MSM thought Benghazi was a lie, didn't happen. :shock: So that's one example of how the news media controlled the election. Plus, now it's been found out all the voter fraud that got Obama elected. 148% of voters voted for him in one area; many had 100% voter turnout and not one vote for Romney.

Personally, I think they should throw out the votes where they found voter fraud and do the whole thing over again. Especially when the truth is out now about how many things Obama put on hold til after the election.

There's only a couple of reasons why anyone would support Obama and neither is for the good of the country. It's a divided America, alright and one
big division is the "Makers vs the Takers" among other things.
 
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Graham on Romney ‘gifts’ remark: ‘When you’re in a hole, stop digging’

By Meghashyam Mali - 11/18/12 12:33 PM ET

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday blasted Republican nominee Mitt Romney's assertion that Democratic "gifts" to minorities had helped them win the election.


"We’re in a big hole, we’re not getting out of it by comments like that," Graham said on NBC's “Meet the Press.” “When you’re in a hole, stop digging. He keeps digging.”


In a Wednesday call with donors, Romney cited Obama’s healthcare reform law and executive order stopping the deportation of some illegal immigrants as “gifts” which motivated voters to back the president.


“The President’s campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift — so he made a big effort on small things,” said Romney.

Graham on Sunday said that despite disappointment with the Obama administration, Hispanic voters overwhelmingly backed the president because he was the “lesser of two evils.”

“Self-deportation pushed by Mitt Romney hurt our chances. We’re in a death spiral with Hispanic voters because of our rhetoric on immigration and our candidate Romney and the primaries dug the hole deeper,” he continued.

Graham said Republicans should focus their attention again on the economy.

“Most people who are on public assistance don’t have a character flaw, they just have a tough life. I want to create more jobs and the focus on that should be on how to create more jobs and not demonize those who find themselves in a hard time,” Graham said. “Our party can adjust, and conservative is an asset, but rhetoric like this keeps digging a hole for the Republican party and if we don’t stop digging we’re going to never get out of it.”
 

Larrry

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Faster horses said:
I'm very disappointed at the Republicans over the mistreatment of Romney.
He's a good man, he gave it his all. That's not saying he needed better advice from his advisors. I'm sure he could have given Obama plenty in that last debate, after all, he has been around. He's no novice. I think he was advised to lay low, which was a mistake. He should have punched Obama hard about Benghazi. For heavens sake, some of the people who only listen to MSM thought Benghazi was a lie, didn't happen. :shock: So that's one example of how the news media controlled the election. Plus, now it's been found out all the voter fraud that got Obama elected. 148% of voters voted for him in one area; many had 100% voter turnout and not one vote for Romney.

Personally, I think they should throw out the votes where they found voter fraud and do the whole thing over again. Especially when the truth is out now about how many things Obama put on hold til after the election.

There's only a couple of reasons why anyone would support Obama and neither is for the good of the country. It's a divided America, alright and one
big division is the "Makers vs the Takers" among other things.

True, but I will say that it is natural when a party loses to evaluate what went wrong and bring out the faaults of the campaign. It happened when Gore got beat, it happened when Kerry got beat. It is just a fact of nature and there is nothing wrong with it. What you have is the Teabagee's jump on it and try to exploit disagreeing opinions within the party. Notice that basically everyone rallied around Romney when he was the candidate. Which is the way it is almost always done. What gets me is that peopole say well he wasn't the perfect candidate....let me tell you a little secret, there isn't a perfect candidate.

So chin up and proceed. But the best way is to ignore the Teabagee D cultists of the obama regime and proceed with conservative values. Above all expose the liberal leftist media for what they are, LIARS
 

Steve

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What gets me is that peopole say well he wasn't the perfect candidate....let me tell you a little secret, there isn't a perfect candidate.

he was the wrong candidate.. his more then moderate background didn't fit the image he tried to create during the primaries. .. and that image certainly didn't get the votes needed to win the general election..

he couldn't run against Obama because the two were in agreement on many issues.. allowing Obama to run against the image Romney created..

so in the end.. Romney couldn't defend the image nor run against Obama
 
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TRENDING: Gingrich: Romney ‘gifts’ comment ‘nuts’

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CNN's Gregory Wallace


(CNN) - Newt Gingrich had harsh words Sunday for GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s suggestion that he lost the election because President Barack Obama offered “gifts” to African-Americans, Hispanics, and young voters.

“I just think it’s nuts,” Gingrich said on ABC. “I mean, first of all, it's insulting.”


“The job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. If we can't offer a better future that is believable to more people, we're not going to win,” said Gingrich, who launched blistering attacks on Romney last spring while seeking the presidential nomination himself.
Revelation of Romney’s comments drew criticism from others within his own party, such as Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal – who said a winning strategy does not involve “insulting (voters) and saying their votes were bought” - and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who said, “Rhetoric like this keeps digging a hole for the Republican Party.”

Romney was quoted by several news outlets as having made the comments on a call with top donors Wednesday, and CNN confirmed he made similar arguments in a separate call earlier in the day.

"What the president, president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote," Romney said in the later call. Portions of audio from the call aired on ABC that evening.

The New York Times quoted Romney as having said, "With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest, was a big gift."

"Free contraceptives were very big with young college-aged women," he continued, according to the Times. "And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents' plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008."

Romney has stayed out of the public eye since losing the election nearly two weeks ago, and his longtime spokesman did not return a request from CNN for comment about his remarks.

Jindal spoke out against the comments at the Republican Governors Association meeting earlier in the week, and on Sunday described Romney as “honorable and exceptional” but said the comments do not represent his party.

“I'm proud to have campaigned for him across the country, but I absolutely reject what he said. Look, we as the Republican Party have to campaign for every single vote,” Jindal said on Fox. “If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. And you don't start to like people by insulting them and saying their votes were bought. We are an aspirational party.”

The GOP will not succeed by “just having better PR folks,” he said.

CNN exit polls showed Romney won white voters, while Obama carried 93% of African-American voters, 71% of Latino voters, and 73% of Asian voters. Obama outperformed Romney among voters under 39 years of age, while Romney carried a majority of voters over 40.

Graham said Hispanics “voted for (Obama) because he's the lesser or two evils.”

“We're in a big hole. We're not getting out of it by comments like (Romney’s),” Graham said on NBC. “When you’re in a hole, stop digging. He keeps digging.”

Democratic Rep. Xavier Becerra said on ABC that the comments show the Republican Party did not “read the tea leaves from November 6, and I think they're still harkening to yesteryear. It's a new day in America, and they should be catching up.”


Old Newt is going to dance on Mitts grave too--altho I believe he would have lost by even more if he was the candidate...
 

Larrry

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What's the big deal it's just politics and they are just trying to position themselves and the conservatives for the next election.

Just remember all the positioning after Gore and Kerry failures and how obama and Hill fought like cats and dogs.
 

hypocritexposer

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Larrry said:
What's the big deal it's just politics and they are just trying to position themselves and the conservatives for the next election.

Just remember all the positioning after Gore and Kerry failures and how obama and Hill fought like cats and dogs.


and you will see the Dems. try to position the next Repub. candidate too.

Watch for them to once again support guys like Christie.

The "left" supported Romney more so, than the "Right", before the general.
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer is just dribbling down his leg past his depends,,,,always does when he can find (or his handlers do for him) some sort of negitive about conservities...Makes his day and gives him a tingle :wink: :wink: even if he does not understand it :roll:
 
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