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Just another isolated incident?

Steve

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Just another isolated incident?

FBI agent fatally shoots man with reported ties to bomber

A man was fatally shot when a team of FBI agents swarmed an apartment complex near Universal Studios in Orlando. The man, identified by an FBI spokesman as Ibragim Todashev, was being interviewed about his ties to alleged Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, according to The New York Times.

The shooting happened early Wednesday.

“We are currently responding to a shooting incident involving an FBI special agent,” FBI spokesman Dave Couvertier said in an earlier statement. “The incident occurred in Orlando Florida. The agent encountered the suspect while conducting official duties. The suspect is deceased.”
The officers — who included an F.B.I. agent from the Boston field office and two Massachusetts state troopers — were questioning the man, Ibragim Todashev, about whether he had played a role in a triple murder on Sept. 11, 2011, in Waltham, Mass., which had been one of the biggest mysteries in the aftermath of the bombings.

The officers had been interviewing Mr. Todashev in his apartment for some time when he tried to attack them, the official said.

The F.B.I. agent sustained minor injuries that required stitches, the official said. The official said that the authorities had spoken to Mr. Todashev at least twice since the April 15 bombings, which killed three people and injured about 200.

it is an interesting article..

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/officer-involved-in-shooting-of-man-tied-to-tsarnaev.html?_r=0




in the kettle calling the pot black section of the insane asylum we call the muslin world..


Zubeidat Tsarnaeva said:
bomber mom said " “Tamerlan said he was a good guy"

“Now another boy has left this life,” she said. “Why are they killing these children without any trial or investigation?”

She said she had broken down when she heard the news on Wednesday.

We have been asking that question of the radical Islamist for decades..

at least we can honestly answer her.. cause the stupid jerk attacked an FBI agent...

are these muslim idiots really that stupid?
 

Mike

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Don't know the circumstances of the shooting, but I'm sure if he had info to fill in some unknown gaps it would be welcome.

Wonder how many shots it took to kill him? 15-20? 100-300?
 

Steve

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Mike said:
, but I'm sure if he had info to fill in some unknown gaps it would be welcome.

seems he was ranting so they shot him... :shock:

Ibragim Todashev implicated Tsarnaev, himself in triple homicide before FBI shooting

A friend of Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev implicated himself and Tsarnaev in an unsolved triple homicide before authorities say he instigated a violent confrontation that resulted in his death early Wednesday morning.

Sources say during questioning Tuesday night, Todashev implicated himself and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in the killings. As investigators pushed at him towards a confession, he snapped. Law enforcement officials say the 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter made a move that threatened the investigators. The FBI agent, who suffered cuts in the altercation, shot and killed Todashev.

Officials say Todashev became violent as he was about to sign a written statement based on his confession. The FBI was trying to question Todashev at his apartment over his ties to Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev when 'something went wrong.'

He Was Killed During an Interview at His Apartment Complex When He Pulled a Knife.


The FBI became interested in him after phone records suggested a connection to Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Over several weeks agents kept tabs on Todashev and questioned him a handful of times.

Todashev, who lived in the u.s. for the past several years, was arrested two weeks ago on an aggravated battery charge. But now investigators want to find out if he had any connections at all to anything worse, including radical extremists overseas.

Miller also reported that Todashev had been to Chechnya before and was scheduled to return to Chechnya this week but canceled his flight.

Why is it they can sift through journalists phone records,.. but never looked at a potential terrorists until now?
 

hypocritexposer

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Sources say during questioning Tuesday night, Todashev implicated himself and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in the killings. As investigators pushed at him towards a confession, he snapped. Law enforcement officials say the 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter made a move that threatened the investigators.


So he was in a controlled environment? An interview room? With others watching, on CC, and near by?

Something smells fishy...

...all the tv shows I watch, make a point of showing the "po po' taking off their weapons, before entering an "interrogation room"

I bet the guy wishes now he had have been waterboarded by Bush's men...
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Sources say during questioning Tuesday night, Todashev implicated himself and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in the killings. As investigators pushed at him towards a confession, he snapped. Law enforcement officials say the 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter made a move that threatened the investigators.


So he was in a controlled environment? An interview room? With others watching, on CC, and near by?

Something smells fishy...

...all the tv shows I watch, make a point of showing the "po po' taking off their weapons, before entering an "interrogation room"

I bet the guy wishes now he had have been waterboarded by Bush's men...

he was in his apartment..

A man from Chechnya with links to one of the Boston bombing suspects was shot and killed by a FBI agent early Wednesday after becoming violent during questioning at an Orlando apartment.

The FBI said 27-year-old Ibragim Todashev (pictured above) was shot just after midnight at 6022 Peregrine Avenue in the Windhover Apartments near Universal Orlando.

Ibragim Todashev "just went crazy," and pulled a knife during his interview with the FBI

One official said an FBI agent was stabbed several times, although his injuries were described by the FBI as "non-life threatening."

it looks as if they were going to arrest him. and he went at one with a knife.. stabbing him several times.




by the news accounts the guy had two recent violent attacks on others...
leaving a guy in a bloody pool and was in the US on a student visa...

he was kicked out of most of the Boston gyms for his behavior..

Why do we continue to allow immigrants who clearly are not enrolled in any school with several violent arrests to continue to live here and not get deported?
 

hypocritexposer

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okay, so I got to wonder how competent the FBI agent was then...

...there should not have been a weapon in arm's reach, when they were "questioning" him.

Are these guys amateurs?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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hypocritexposer said:
okay, so I got to wonder how competent the FBI agent was then...

...there should not have been a weapon in arm's reach, when they were "questioning" him.

Are these guys amateurs?

"Ibragim Todashev "just went crazy," and pulled a knife during his interview with the FBI "

Now you playing dumb :roll: He pulled it out of thin air.

That's where all knives are kept. :D
 

Steve

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the guy was a mixed martial arts expert,.. who was considered pro.. and had fought as a MMA for at least ten years.. recently beating a person to a pulp

Professional mixed martial artist Ibragim Todashev was shot and killed by an FBI agent in Orlando, Fla., on Wednesday


Todashev was a professional fighter. He defeated Bradford May by guillotine choke in the first round on July 27, 2012, in the Florida-based Real Fighting Championships promotion.

so you have a highly trained fighter with a known bad disposition in the fighting world.. banned from most gyms in the Boston area.. being questioned.. implicates himself.. the FBI agent decides to arrest him.. and he goes off on them...

what would you do? I would take the shot
 

Mike

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Initially, FBI officials said Todashev, 27, became violent and lunged at an agent with a knife while he was being questioned about Tsarnaev and an unsolved 2011 triple murder in the Boston suburb of Waltham. The agent, acting on an "imminent threat," then shot Todashev, they said.

However, later in the day, some of those officials had backed off that preliminary account, and it's no longer clear what happened in the moments before the fatal shooting, The Associated Press reported.



Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22403812/fbi-shooting-orlando-moments-before-fatal-shooting-of-ibragim-todashev-still-unclear#ixzz2U7rSGyYN
 

Tam

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Steve said:
the guy was a mixed martial arts expert,.. who was considered pro.. and had fought as a MMA for at least ten years.. recently beating a person to a pulp

Professional mixed martial artist Ibragim Todashev was shot and killed by an FBI agent in Orlando, Fla., on Wednesday


Todashev was a professional fighter. He defeated Bradford May by guillotine choke in the first round on July 27, 2012, in the Florida-based Real Fighting Championships promotion.

so you have a highly trained fighter with a known bad disposition in the fighting world.. banned from most gyms in the Boston area.. being questioned.. implicates himself.. the FBI agent decides to arrest him.. and he goes off on them...

what would you do? I would take the shot

If this guy was being questioned about a murder and about to sign a confession to the murders why was he not in a police station being questioned verses in his home where he had access to a weapon? :?

Yes the agent had a right to shoot BUT were the FBI using common sense when it came to WHERE THEY CHOSE TO QUESTION THE SUSPECTED MURDERER? :roll:

This to me is no different than the screw up with the Boston Bombers. The FBI/Homeland Security had interviewed the brothers over the foreign countries warnings and their own citizenship app. countless times according to that air head Napolitano, yet they released their pictures to the press asking who they were. :shock: :roll:

Which we now know set in motion the wife warning her husband and the car jacking so they could get their bombs to Time Square which resulted in the death of a police officer and the massive man hunt in the streets of Cambridge and the shooting of both bombers. Would it not have made more sense in that case to research their own damn records and get the addresses off their Citizenship apps which include their pictures and quietly knocking on their door when they knew they were home and taking them into custody without the 300 plus round fire fight in the streets that endangered innocent bystanders? The FBI need to start looking at their agents actions and evaluating them on the basis of COMMON SENSE. :roll:

COMMON SENSE says this suspected murderer should never have been questioned in his home where he had access to a knife. He should have been taken to a FBI Interrogation room where he could be searched to assure he had no weapons to turn on the agent making it necessary for them to shot him. :roll:

And please don't excuse their behavior by saying they had no right to take the guy in as this is the same FBI that perp walked an innocent guy over a ricen letter threat and perp walked the maker of the video that OBAMA AND HILLARY claimed caused Benghazi.
 

Steve

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If this guy was being questioned about a murder and about to sign a confession to the murders why was he not in a police station being questioned verses in his home where he had access to a weapon?

my guess.. is that they felt he had implicated himself... and decided he would be arrested ... instead of telling him he was going to jail for life..

they said.. come on down to the station and we can write up your statement.. at which point he realized he wasn't going to get away with it...

so he tried to get away.. but didn't quite make it
 

Steve

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COMMON SENSE says this suspected murderer should never have been questioned in his home where he had access to a knife. He should have been taken to a FBI Interrogation room where he could be searched to assure he had no weapons to turn on the agent making it necessary for them to shot him.

I agree... but with the current administration wanting to tap dance around and not hurt muslins feelings.. dragging one downtown for an interrogation probably wasn't authorized..



as for excuses.. I don't make excuses.. some on her jump to one conclusion.. I simply disagree..

given the choice of shooting an escaping violent suspected murder / terrorist or letting him get away.. well I would shoot the bastard and let GOD and the shooting investigation teams sort it out..
 

Tam

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Steve said:
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I agree... but with the current administration wanting to tap dance around and not hurt muslins feelings.. dragging one downtown for an interrogation probably wasn't authorized..


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This Administration is getting people killed and it is time somebody in the FBI, CIA or Department of Defense steps up and grows a pair and tells Obama his Muslim azz kissing policies are doing not one actual American any favors. :mad:
 

Steve

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Tam said:
Steve said:
I agree... but with the current administration wanting to tap dance around and not hurt muslins feelings.. dragging one downtown for an interrogation probably wasn't authorized..

This Administration is getting people killed and it is time somebody in the FBI, CIA or Department of Defense steps up and grows a pair and tells Obama his Muslim azz kissing policies are doing not one actual American any favors. :mad:

I agree.. whether it was the fort hood terrorist traitor who was ignored due to the political correctness and not wanting to offend muslims to this guy.. they administrations attitude about coddling muslims has left US less secure.

and the administrations sidestepping and tapping around dangerous thugs just because they are muslims has left alot of them dead who could have provided valuable intel.

funny how dead is better then sitting in a military prison at gitmo.
 
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