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JUST IN.....OBAMA RULED FROM BALLOTS!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike

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http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/27/0.pdf

P.S. I'll believe it when that ruling is signed and sealed.
 
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Mike I read through the laws on citizenship at the website you referenced. It became apperant to me that all of the illilegl immigrants that have had children here does not make the child a legal citizen. Most of them that have had children have not met the five year time frame.
 

Yanuck

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I "borrowed" this from another site, does it not make sense?
Anyone??



Proof Barack Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery.
Look at the supposed ‘real’ birth certificate displayed on Obama’s web site.
What has been staring everyone in the face is the effects of political correctness and no one has seen it. The beauty of this liberal political correctness is that the person who forged this document got caught in their own trap of affirmative action hyphenated Americans.
Look closely at Stanley Ann Dunham’s race. Caucasian.
Now look closely at Barack Hussein Obama Sr’s race.
It is listed as African.
That doesn’t seem all that interesting and no one has noticed it until one looks that this is an official document filed in August 1961.
Most people on the internet and blogging have no sense of history nor in the use of words and it is this lack of sense which is going to bite whoever forged this document.
Up until 1968, the standard term for all Africans was “negroe”. This fit with the absolute secular scientific teaching of the day which notes the world has 3 races in Mongoloid, Caucasoid and Negroid.
It was not until the Black Revolution when negroe or negro became a foul description in the late 1960’s and then “black” was demanded by this group to describe them.
It was not until the late 1970’s when political correctness came into vogue that it ushered in by the 1980’s the term “African” to describe all blacks.
Whoever forged this birth certificate was not utilizing the 1960’s terminology which a black person would be listed as. They fell instead into a warped year 2000 politically correct description of “African”.
This is absolutely telling as if you looked at birth records in Prussia centuries ago, those people would be termed Prussian, Bavarian etc… as Germany did not yet exist as a termonology for nation state. If someone was listed as German in 1700, it would be glaring forgery just like the Obama forgery stuns the eyes once one knows what they are looking at.
One could research the certificates in Hawaii for absolutes, but considering as has been warned in this blog that Hawaii is a Democratic state, has Democratic officials who have been hemming and hawing about this certificate and only upon precise questioning do they start backing down as it means their jobs and prison time if they certify a forgery as real and this is Democratic transplanted son Barack Obama carrying on this charade, could one ever get a clear answer from them unless one looked at numbers of birth certificates to precisely learn how Hawaii was labeling “blacks”.
If this case it is African, then why is not Stanley Ann Dunham labeled correctly North American after her continent? She though is labeled correctly as caucasian as that is exactly as she is.
If one still today searches enough death certificates in the 50 United States, you will find listed on them the term NEGRO. Now that is over 40 years since 1961 in Barack Obama’s birth and political correctness has not reached completely into the coroner’s records.
That fact is scientific and if it still exists today as proof it certainly is the proof from before 1900 in America and past 1960 that all blacks were noted as “negroe” or “negro” on all public records from birth certificates, marriage licenses, passports, driver’s licenses to death certificates.
Whoever forged the Barack Obama birth certificate got caught in Mr. Obama’s own political correctness.
In 1961 America, blacks were negroes and not Africans no matter if they came from Africa or not.
If one cares to examine the Negroe Leagues in baseball where blacks were to “pass” as Cubans to the United Negroe College Fund to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, there was no African at all in any terminology.
One was negroe on legal documents and “colored” in common usage.
No pixels in this. No questioning borders and no questions about the researcher’s expertise as negroe is American history and scientific fact just like whoever forged the Obama birth certificate got caught in political correctness in not being able to use a term they were trained to avoid.
That is a fact. This birth certificate is a fake.
 

fff

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:roll: For the umpteenth time:

FactCheck.org says it's a valid birth certificate.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


On the other hand, it's encouraging that the best the Obama bashers can do is recycle this old story. :D
 

Mike

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So why don't they show the original to the Judge in the Berg case?

That would clear it, and the other 8 lawsuits about it in various states.

No, they will not show anything, they just file motions to dismiss the case.

I think I would want to show it all if I were questioned. If for nothing else to quash all rumors once and for all.

You think a judge is gonna look at a birth certificate on a website? :lol:
 

Lonecowboy

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fff said:
:roll: For the umpteenth time:

FactCheck.org says it's a valid birth certificate.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.




On the other hand, it's encouraging that the best the Obama bashers can do is recycle this old story. :D


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http://clintondems.com/2008/08/obamas-connections-to-factcheckorg-exposed-by-texas-darlin/


First, keep in mind: Senator Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.
(FACTCHECK.ORG owned by Annenberg )

William (Bill) Ayers, unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist and a friend of the Obamas, was instrumental in founding the Challenge, thanks to his ties to Mayor Richard Daley. The first Daley was also a pal of Thomas Ayers, Bill’s father, former CEO of ComEd (owned by Exelon).

[Incidentally, the current CEO of ComEd, Frank M. Clark, is a major money bundler for the Obama campaign.]

You’ll recall from Wednesday’s story that the Annenberg files have suddenly been locked down under mysterious circumstances, after a reporter was promised access.

Factcheck.org, used as a resource by so many who wish to “debunk” negative coverage of Obama, is also a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.

You’ll recall that Factcheck was the second site to publish the now-suspect Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) reportedly received from the Obama campaign.

[The Annenberg Foundation and family has an interesting history that we may examine in more detail.]

Second, keep in mind that ACORN has received payments of nearly a million dollars from the Barack Obama Campaign in 2008, as NancyA reported on this blog Aug. 15. Apparently the payments were funneled through Citizens Services Inc., and may have been falsely reported to the FEC.

The Senator has been working with ACORN since his first days as a Community Organizer in Chicago:

“In 1992, Acorn Hired Mr. Obama To Run A Voter Registration Effort. He Later Became A Trainer For The Group, As Well As Its Lawyer In Election Law Cases.” (John Fund, Op-Ed, “Obama’s Liberal Shock Troops,” “The Wall Street Journal”, 7/12/08 )

and

“Representing ACORN, Obama And Other Attorneys Sued The State Of Illinois, Forcing It To Implement Federal “Motor Voter” Legislation That Makes It Easier For The Poor And Minorities To Register To Vote.” (”Some Cases Obama Worked On In His Career As An Attorney,” “The Associated Press”, 2/20/07). Hence again impartiality is not possible.

More Press Quotes on ACORN:

ACORN Used “In Your Face” Tactics Like Disrupting Hearings, Bursting Into City Council Meetings, And Protesting Mayor’s Homes. (Stanley Kurtz, Op-Ed, “Inside Obama’s Acorn,” “National Review”, 5/29/08 )

“ACORN Has Been Accused Of Voter Fraud In 13 StatesSince 2004 And Was Convicted Of Falsifying Signatures In A Voter Registration Drive Last July, Drawing A Fine Of $25,000 In Washington State.” (Editorial, “George Soros: The Man, The Mind And The Money Behind MoveOn,” “Investor’s Business Daily”, 9/21/07)

“ACORN Has Been Implicated In Similar Schemes In 14 Other States - Including Ohio, Where A Worker Traded Crack Cocaine For Fraudulent Registrations.” (Editorial, “Another ACORN Scandal,” “New York Post”, 7/13/08 )

[Notice that the first of these quotes is from the very man (Kurtz, from National Review) who has been denied access on flimsy, and possibly illegal grounds, to the Annenberg Files.]

Meanwhile, keep in mind: ACORN has been a beneficiary of grants from the Chicago-based Woods Fund, which has a history of issuing controversial grants. Ayres and Obama served together on the Fund’s board (and are still listed). [Other grantees during their tenure included PLO employee Rashid Khalidi and the Obamas' church, Trinity United.]

Conclusions

Are you starting to see the potential connections and conflicts of interest? Here’s what we see:

1. Potential conflict of interest between Obama and anything funded by the Annenbergs, including Factcheck.org. [For starters, why were they one of only a small handful of media to get a copy of the COLB?]

2. Obvious conflict of interest between Obama and ACORN: He has been directly involved in funding ACORN, has worked for ACORN, and is now PAYING ACORN in exchange for assistance to his campaign.

3. What kind of assistance is ACORN providing the campaign? When we read about ACORN’s expertise in “voter fraud” and “in-your-face” tactics, it instantly reminded us of Obama’s caucus fraud tricks (see Wednesday’s story).

4. Is there a direct connection between the Annenberg Foundation and ACORN, or are they just three degrees of separation apart, with Ayres and Obama smack in the middle? We are curious about that. [Walter Annenberg, founder of the $500 million gift that funded the Annenberg Challenge, had deeply rooted Chicago ties that clearly intersect with some of the same ties to Thomas and William Ayres.]

We hope to continue this story…
In a nutshell, we believe that there are links worth investigating between the Barack Obama campaign, William Ayers, the Annenbergs, and ACORN.

The three stories that may be connected in ways that we initially did not realize, are:
Obama’s Caucus Fraud Trick: how the delegates were “won”.
The Annenberg Files: ACCESS BLOCKED!
Obama, ACORN, Citizen Services Inc: False FEC Filings; and

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fff

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Ah, the old conspiracy theory. Don't like Factcheck? How about Snopes?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
 

Yanuck

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fff said:
Ah, the old conspiracy theory. Don't like Factcheck? How about Snopes?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Frankie in 1961 did they call Black people Africans? or did they call them coloured or Negro? why does it list his mother as caucasian and not North American? did you read my post? that is my question, what was the term used to describe a person's race in 1961?
Do you work at being so condescending or does it just come naturally to you? :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

fff

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From the FactCheck link:

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.
 

Yanuck

Well-known member
fff said:
From the FactCheck link:

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

thank you
 
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Yanuck said:
fff said:
Ah, the old conspiracy theory. Don't like Factcheck? How about Snopes?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Frankie in 1961 did they call Black people Africans? or did they call them coloured or Negro? why does it list his mother as caucasian and not North American? did you read my post? that is my question, what was the term used to describe a person's race in 1961?
Do you work at being so condescending or does it just come naturally to you? :roll: :roll: :roll:

I have an old jail book that dates from 1889 to the 1930's..I turned it over to the Museum.....It is a huge hardbound-- and the official county record... In the description part- people are descibed as half breeds, half breed Canadian, one footed Swede, black, negro, black negro, negroid, n*gger, african, chinaman, mulatto, frenchman, Spaniard, russian, french canadian, Basque sheepherder, Sioux, Assiniboine, halfbreed whore, etc.,etc...You name it- they are named and don't follow current PC...

And since this takes in a period of 15-20 Sheriff's(keepers of the record) it changes with description on each one...Which makes me wonder how much each person and each area is involved in how anything is recorded...
Their is no standardized system or form for these type reporting (birth/death)- leaving it to each state, altho in the last 20 years their has been more evolution toward similar systems...
 

Lonecowboy

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fff said:
Ah, the old conspiracy theory. Don't like Factcheck?


did you even read it fff??

it's from a website clintondems.com,
berg is a democrat --
what is this a vast "left wing conspiracy"??? helllooooooo!!!!!

Did you read the part of obamas ties to factcheck?????

why did he disclose his "certificate of live birth" to factcheck and not the court??

why are there identicle lawsuits in state and federal courts in 8 states now??

inquiring minds want to know???
idiots look the other way!!!!
 

Mike

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Ah, the old conspiracy theory. Don't like Factcheck? How about Snopes?

It's not a matter of whether I/WE like them or not. :lol:

But I doubt a Judge would take them as the gospel. :roll:
 

VanC

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fff said:
:roll: For the umpteenth time:

FactCheck.org says it's a valid birth certificate.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


On the other hand, it's encouraging that the best the Obama bashers can do is recycle this old story. :D

I see you are a big FactCheck fan, at least when it supports the left's narrow minded view of the world. Care to comment on their analysis of the hateful rumors circulating about Sarah Palin? Or perhaps you would like to apoligize for posting some of these rumors on here as "facts".

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Or perhaps you'd like to comment on these 'facts" put forth by Obama himself.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html
 

fff

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VanC said:
fff said:
:roll: For the umpteenth time:

FactCheck.org says it's a valid birth certificate.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


On the other hand, it's encouraging that the best the Obama bashers can do is recycle this old story. :D

I see you are a big FactCheck fan, at least when it supports the left's narrow minded view of the world. Care to comment on their analysis of the hateful rumors circulating about Sarah Palin? Or perhaps you would like to apoligize for posting some of these rumors on here as "facts".

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Or perhaps you'd like to comment on these 'facts" put forth by Obama himself.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_obama.html

Nope. That's your responsibility. This is an important election. Candidates twist facts to make their point. They always have and they always will. Unlike some people on this board, I don't expect a saint to be running for president. McCain = Bush (an OLD Bush, at that). That's enough for me to vote Obama/Biden.

You want to highlight Obama's points, go for it. I'll continue to highlight McCain/Palin.
 
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Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballot
By MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News

[email protected] 215-854-2656

A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.

Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.

He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.

Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.

They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.

Surrick agreed.

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."

For example, Berg had claimed that Obama's nomination deprived citizens of voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton in November. (Berg backed Clinton in the primaries.)

Berg could not be reached for comment last night.

Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, and the campaign posted a document issued by Hawaii on its Web site, fight thesmears.com, confirming his birth there.

Berg said in court papers that the image was a forgery.

The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.

Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama's birth there on Aug. 4. *
 
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