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R-CALF may launch class-action lawsuit

by Pete Hisey on 4/13/2005 for Meatingplace.com




Bill Bullard, chief executive of Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund, United Stockgrowers of America, told Meatingplace.com that the organization may organize a class-action lawsuit against USDA on behalf of ranchers and smaller processors. The suit would charge that USDA wrongly deprived those ranchers and smaller processors of sales to overseas markets by refusing to allow them to test all cattle for export for bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

U.S. producers would have been able to maintain their share of the Japanese market if USDA had allowed the testing, he says.

"What was the harm in voluntary testing?" Bullard asked. "It was mutually beneficial (to the United States and Japan), but it wasn't in the big packers' interest." Bullard adds that R-CALF might ask smaller packers to join in the lawsuit.

The organization may also ask that a Senate committee look into allegations of favoritism at USDA, contending that the agency is filled with former beef industry figures who favor the interests of large ranchers and packers.
 

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Well, in this case I would have to agree with R-CALF. I know the Canucks are in the same boat - their gov refused to allow voluntary testing.

Seems to me someone is pulling strings at high levels with influence and possibly money to prevent the true entrepreneur from capitalizing on "giving the customer what he wants".

BC
 

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"What was the harm in voluntary testing?" Bullard asked

Watching the video on the CBC might give you your answer Bullard!

The USDA would not have control over test results!
 

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Oldtimer said:
LEGAL/REGULATORY NEWS
R-CALF may launch class-action lawsuit

by Pete Hisey on 4/13/2005 for Meatingplace.com




Bill Bullard, chief executive of Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund, United Stockgrowers of America, told Meatingplace.com that the organization may organize a class-action lawsuit against USDA on behalf of ranchers and smaller processors. The suit would charge that USDA wrongly deprived those ranchers and smaller processors of sales to overseas markets by refusing to allow them to test all cattle for export for bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

U.S. producers would have been able to maintain their share of the Japanese market if USDA had allowed the testing, he says.

"What was the harm in voluntary testing?" Bullard asked. "It was mutually beneficial (to the United States and Japan), but it wasn't in the big packers' interest." Bullard adds that R-CALF might ask smaller packers to join in the lawsuit.

The organization may also ask that a Senate committee look into allegations of favoritism at USDA, contending that the agency is filled with former beef industry figures who favor the interests of large ranchers and packers.

R-Calf has no claim to the Japanese market as they don't raise BEEF.

They raise CATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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It's amazing there is time to try criminal cases these days. :?

Exactly how much fund raising can you guys handle? Seems this is adding up.
 

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Oldtimer said:
LEGAL/REGULATORY NEWS
R-CALF may launch class-action lawsuit

by Pete Hisey on 4/13/2005 for Meatingplace.com


Bill Bullard, chief executive of Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund, United Stockgrowers of America, told Meatingplace.com that the organization may organize a class-action lawsuit against USDA on behalf of ranchers and smaller processors. The suit would charge that USDA wrongly deprived those ranchers and smaller processors of sales to overseas markets by refusing to allow them to test all cattle for export for bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

Response...LOL, this is just a little bit hypocritical for the organization that has convinced it's members they raise cattle not beef!!!!! As in their other legal brief regarding the import of Canadian cattle I am certain that is not what they really meant. We have all taken this out of context!!!.
 

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Agman, R-CALF wants to sue USDA for lost opportunity but isn't that why the NMA is sueing because of lost opportunity because of no Canadian cattle to process.
 

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great post Kato!!!! The only people getting rich these days are the lawyers. WE all know what they charge when there working on a case! Better sell your herds R-calf members you'll need the $$$ for the lawyer slush fund!
 

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How does this fit with the point not so long ago that R-CALF was making that we need not export, just stop the imports of beef?
Looks like a major flip-flop!
MRJ
 

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MRJ said:
How does this fit with the point not so long ago that R-CALF was making that we need not export, just stop the imports of beef?
Looks like a major flip-flop!
MRJ

Hey you stole Oldtimers line :lol: hes going to be mad :lol:
 

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MRJ said:
How does this fit with the point not so long ago that R-CALF was making that we need not export, just stop the imports of beef?
Looks like a major flip-flop!
MRJ


MRJ. did we stop the imports of beef? :???:
 

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rancher said:
MRJ said:
How does this fit with the point not so long ago that R-CALF was making that we need not export, just stop the imports of beef?
Looks like a major flip-flop!
MRJ


MRJ. did we stop the imports of beef? :???:

No but your trying to.
 

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Im sure Leo would lie to his own mother if he could stop her from giving him roast beef sandwiches from Canadian beef!
 

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Does any one know if Japan actually signed an agreement to take 100% tested beef or was that just a stall tactic that Japn used to buy time. We were told in Canada that they never said they would take it even if we agreed to test.
 

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Agman, R-CALF wants to sue USDA for lost opportunity but isn't that why the NMA is sueing because of lost opportunity because of no Canadian cattle to process.

You missed the entire point. The NMA never said they were just in the "cattle" business. That narrow-minded statement is the sole domain of R-CAlf and its followers. The NMA is not suing the USDA either. Have a great day.
 

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Tam said:
Does any one know if Japan actually signed an agreement to take 100% tested beef or was that just a stall tactic that Japn used to buy time. We were told in Canada that they never said they would take it even if we agreed to test.

They never signed any agreement per 100% testing...period.
 

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agman said:
Tam said:
Does any one know if Japan actually signed an agreement to take 100% tested beef or was that just a stall tactic that Japn used to buy time. We were told in Canada that they never said they would take it even if we agreed to test.

They never signed any agreement per 100% testing...period.

You can bet your bippy we would've been shipping to Japan long ago if Creekstone were allowed to test. Fielding had the blessings of all the Japanese Ag ministers, the consumers, plus the "Main Man". The USDA has been amazingly inept here. Now they are wanting to change the rules again before we even get the "under 21 month" agreement OK'd.
All the stalling on "Testing" has the Jap public wary, and rightly so.
I'm mystified by the lack of common sense in the USDA. I look for them to file suit against Japan any day now. Or roll out the "Enola Gay". :roll:
 

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I heard more than once that Japan was using this to get out of their 100% testing and it looks like those people were the ones that were right. Japan is backing off the 100% testing as even they say it is not need in the young animals. So who is to say they would have taken it, if they did not sign any binding agreement.
 

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Mike said:
agman said:
Tam said:
Does any one know if Japan actually signed an agreement to take 100% tested beef or was that just a stall tactic that Japn used to buy time. We were told in Canada that they never said they would take it even if we agreed to test.

They never signed any agreement per 100% testing...period.

You can bet your bippy we would've been shipping to Japan long ago if Creekstone were allowed to test. Fielding had the blessings of all the Japanese Ag ministers, the consumers, plus the "Main Man".

Mike..You only have this rhetoric from Creekstone of what the Japanese supposedly said or implied. There was NEVER any statement like that issued by any representative of their government at any level. We should end this nonsense regarding what Creekstone claims.
 

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