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Just Wondering

I Luv Herfrds

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Since our country is broke why is obama pledging hundreds of millions of dollars to help Haiti?

Now I see nothing wrong with giving them food, water, military, rescue services and such, but not sending them my money that could be used better here at home.

why is our government always jumping into everything to spend money?

I keep hearing about how our bridges and overpasses need to be replaced, why not spend the money there instead?
 

MsSage

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Yeah what about all the people out of work HERE?
What about all the people lossing thier homes HERE?
What about all the companies going Bankrupt HERE?
What about our dollar becoming worthless EVERYWHERE?
 

Larrry

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The problem in Haiti now is not the lack of donations, it is getting the supplies to the people.

The most sickening sight I saw was when the were delivering food(MRE) to these people. They were getting it off the truck and then they threw it on the ground and stomped on itbecause the thought it was outdated. They were reading the manufacture date. If I was hungry I would be danged if I would stimo even on outdated food. This was on CNN
 

Faster horses

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We've thrown money for years at Haiti. How can we help a country that
won't help themselves?

Does our President and Congress recognize the fact that we
are broke? I think not. Or they don't care.
 

Tam

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This weekend I heard a reporter on the ground in Haiti say the relief efforts were a failure as he had yet to see food and water being delivered even though people were dieing for lack of it. He asked a guy at the air port why and his answer was, "it was his job to get the supplies to Haiti not pass it out and from what he knew there was nobody to safely get them distributed".
According to the reporter the rescue mission was working hard to rescue those buried in the rubble but few were passing out the millions of dollars worth of food being sent due to lack of security and that was the State Department's responsibility.


Don't get me wrong, I pray for the people of Haiti as life for many of them will never be the same. But when you hear reporters say that alot of the food that has been passed out is being sold on the black market, and days after the disaster many are just sitting in the streets and fields waiting for someone to come give them food and water, you have to wonder WHY. Why bother if they are not willing to even help themselves? Could the healthy ones not go to the airport and volunteer to pass out the free food to those that can't get there, instead of stealing it and anything else they can get their greedy little hands on and selling it on the black market? Foreign countries like the US and Canada will donate hundreds of millions of dollars of aid, money that could be put to work putting people back to work in our countries, and they will not even stop the stealing long enough to help their fellow countryman. :roll:
 

jingo2

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In your world does food water military time equip and effort cost nothing?

I bet if somehting goes wrong in your world you are sure glad to see help coming
 

Tam

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jingo2 said:
In your world does food water military time equip and effort cost nothing?

I bet if somehting goes wrong in your world you are sure glad to see help coming

Have any estimation on what the promised Long time committed rebuild is going to cost?
I'll bet it will be far more than the promised $100 million.

glad yes EXPECT no. :wink:
 

Larrry

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kolanuraven said:
In your world does food water military time equip and effort cost nothing?

I bet if somehting goes wrong in your world you are sure glad to see help coming

Glad to see ya are back :wink: :wink:
 

jingo2

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Larrry said:
kolanuraven said:
In your world does food water military time equip and effort cost nothing?

I bet if somehting goes wrong in your world you are sure glad to see help coming

Glad to see ya are back :wink: :wink:

I dont what you are trying to prove by chanign someone's post.
 

hopalong

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jingo2 said:
Larrry said:
kolanuraven said:
In your world does food water military time equip and effort cost nothing?

I bet if somehting goes wrong in your world you are sure glad to see help coming

Glad to see ya are back :wink: :wink:

I dont what you are trying to prove by chanign someone's post.

What was changed?????????? :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

hillsdown

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I Luv Herfrds said:
Since our country is broke why is obama pledging hundreds of millions of dollars to help Haiti?

Now I see nothing wrong with giving them food, water, military, rescue services and such, but not sending them my money that could be used better here at home.

why is our government always jumping into everything to spend money?

I keep hearing about how our bridges and overpasses need to be replaced, why not spend the money there instead?

I was discussing this with my mom this morning and Canada is in the same boat just not quite so bad as the Sates, why is there money now but there was no money a few months ago to help stimulate the economy and create jobs.
I feel for everyone in Haiti and we lost quite a few Canadians ,especially RCMP officers that were there helping get the Haiti police force straightened out . I also made a generous donation to the Red Cross and Doctors against borders. But why our countries should go further in the red at this time is beyond me, especially since the richest country in the world,China, is really giving diddly squat. Also expect hundreds of thousands of Haitian refugees to be in our countries in a matter of weeks. I guess we will all just have to work harder to make more money so we can pay more taxes to support the welfare system. :roll:
 

I Luv Herfrds

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Jingo when we had a drought, there was no help for us.
Yes i know these things cost money but why should I have to rebuild Haiti when we are still not done with New Orelans.
 

andybob

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Funding emergency food, water and medical supplies is what defines our civilisation. My complaint is the ongoing funding of programs that have consistantly failed for decades, if it doesn't work the first few times, why do our governments keep on financing failture. At present, we are donating the highest amount of any European country, so long as the aid reaches those who need it most, I have no objection to the donation being made.
 

Liveoak

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andybob said:
Funding emergency food, water and medical supplies is what defines our civilisation. My complaint is the ongoing funding of programs that have consistantly failed for decades, if it doesn't work the first few times, why do our governments keep on financing failture. At present, we are donating the highest amount of any European country, so long as the aid reaches those who need it most, I have no objection to the donation being made.

Good post AndyBob! Loss of jobs, bank failures/baleouts etc are one thing, loss of life and starvation are another. The best thing that could happen to Haiti after stabilization of food and water, would be for the Dominican Republic to take the country over.
 

jingo2

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I Luv Herfrds said:
Jingo when we had a drought, there was no help for us.
Yes i know these things cost money but why should I have to rebuild Haiti when we are still not done with New Orelans.


Drought and 7.0 earthquake.....you say they are equal?

Did over 100K die in your drought? Anyone get gangrene......any kids left as orphans....I think not.

You sense of logic is outta whack
 

Justin

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jingo2 said:
I Luv Herfrds said:
Jingo when we had a drought, there was no help for us.
Yes i know these things cost money but why should I have to rebuild Haiti when we are still not done with New Orelans.


Drought and 7.0 earthquake.....you say they are equal?

Did over 100K die in your drought? Anyone get gangrene......any kids left as orphans....I think not.

You sense of logic is outta whack


where is the logic in cleaning up other's messes when there is pleny to clean up here at home?? i seen W and Clinton on TV last night begging for donations..... :mad: this country is going to hell in a hand basket with a first class ticket and they want me to donate to Hati, i don't think so!
 

I Luv Herfrds

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I agree Justin, nothing is being done here, but tons of money going over seas.

So jingo my sense of logic is out of whack huh? Maybe cleaning up our own country is not a prioroity with you, but it is with me.
Just wondering again jingo, how much aid was sent to the USA after Katrina? I mean from foreign governments? The north ridge earthquake?
Hurricane Andrew?
You getting my point?
 

Liveoak

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Aid from foreign governments? A lot of aid was offered to the U.S.. Keep in mind that the U.S. has always perceived itself and has been perceived from outside as the richest nation on the Earth and also the most generous. And most likely, this is why the offered aid was "unclaimed".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/28/AR2007042801113.html?hpid=topnews

How does aid for the dying and those starving, due to a natural disaster, compare to the problem you believe we should be immediately dealing with?


I Luv Herfrds said:
I agree Justin, nothing is being done here, but tons of money going over seas.

So jingo my sense of logic is out of whack huh? Maybe cleaning up our own country is not a prioroity with you, but it is with me.
Just wondering again jingo, how much aid was sent to the USA after Katrina? I mean from foreign governments? The north ridge earthquake?
Hurricane Andrew?
You getting my point?
 
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