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Karma is a biatch for Senators

kolanuraven

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/oklahoma-senators-disaster-relief_n_3309234.html


ens. Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn, both Republicans, are fiscal hawks who have repeatedly voted against funding disaster aid for other parts of the country. They also have opposed increased funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which administers federal disaster relief.


Late last year, Inhofe and Coburn both backed a plan to slash disaster relief to victims of Hurricane Sandy. In a December press release, Coburn complained that the Sandy Relief bill contained "wasteful spending," and identified a series of items he objected to, including "$12.9 billion for future disaster mitigation activities and studies."
 

kolanuraven

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Whitewing said:
Have they asked for federal assistance in the wake of the OK storm damage?


inhofe just was interviewed and he said that he was in talks with the Pres as to what funds would be needed......

so YES he has
 

Mike

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Nothing at all wrong in cutting disaster aid. After the swarm of tornadoes that hit Alabama a few years ago, some friends and myself loaded up some trackhoes, dozers, front end loaders, etc. and went to the central DHS authority to offer free help in cleaning up the mess.

During the sign-in period we had about 10 guys on the payroll standing around waiting for over half a day. It was the biggest cluster-f#&k ever.

Bottom line. They have their own cronies that do disaster work and pay them extraordinarily well. Anyone else trying to help might as well get out of the way. They don't want you there.

BP Oil Spill was the biggest mess imaginable due to the feds getting involved.

If I were in OK, I wouldn't want them there.
 

texoman

Member
If I were in OK, I wouldn't want them there.[/quote]

I'm in OK, and I don't want them here. Nothing good happens when feds get involved. There are better ways to recover than have their "help"
 

Sandhusker

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And the REST OF THE STORY that liberals don't tell you is that those senators voted against the Hurricane Sandy bill because 3/4 of it was pork that had nothing to do with the storm.

Kolu, when you have to "forget" material parts of the story to make your point, doesn't that tell you something about your point?
 

Soapweed

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I have a second cousin that lives in the area affected. Here is his report:

Yesterday seemed like a war.

One minute we were at a funeral of a friend. The moment was peaceful and humbling.

Then a police officer interrupted the service to say there was a tornado heading toward us and everyone was rushed into the halls for safety. The following moments were spent avoiding the Hugh violent tornado. One moment you're watching a part of nature so few get to see so "close up". And the next you see what happens when there is total devastation in what just a few minutes ago was so normal. All the rules change in a blink of an eye. No power, no stores, no gas, no public restrooms, people on foot carrying what they can to safety. Traffic stands still for hours. Cell phone service is sparse at best. What was a 25 min. Drive becomes 6 hrs and the stories of hardship are too many to process at one time. It makes you think how life would be if the country were to fail. But then you see the people of Oklahoma spring into action and just handle it. It's amazing to see what these people are made of. These people as a whole give their all. The kindness and generosity is piling up so fast it's amazing. Everyone knows their job and what happens next. It also is amazing to see so "close up."

I am so thankful that my family is ok and hopefully so are my friends. The community so hard hit was where we raised our boys. I hope today doesn't bring bad news of anyone we know. Oklahoma has a way of life that everyone should see "close up." Even with these tornados it's the best! The people are second to none and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else!
 

Mike

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texoman said:
If I were in OK, I wouldn't want them there.

I'm in OK, and I don't want them here. Nothing good happens when feds get involved. There are better ways to recover than have their "help"[/quote]



We truly wish ya'll all the best. But when the Feds take over the damaged areas, the owners won't be able to see their home for several weeks or months while their cronies converge to make life hell for the next year or so.

Don't forget, the Red Cross will bring you a broom, a bucket & mop, and some soap after you get moved back in your home............... :roll: And maybe a bottle of water.

I probably don't need to tell you this...............
 

loomixguy

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Mike said:
Don't forget, the Red Cross will bring you a broom, a bucket & mop, and some soap after you get moved back in your home............... :roll: And maybe a bottle of water.

And then charge you for it!
Screw the Red Cross. The Salvation Army is who gets my donations.
 

Mike

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loomixguy said:
Mike said:
Don't forget, the Red Cross will bring you a broom, a bucket & mop, and some soap after you get moved back in your home............... :roll: And maybe a bottle of water.

And then charge you for it!
Screw the Red Cross. The Salvation Army is who gets my donations.

A friend's wife chased the Red Cross off their property with one of those mop handles about 2 months after a flood. They called the Sheriff on her for assault, but he wound up arresting them for trespassing.

:lol:
 

Faster horses

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loomixguy said:
Mike said:
Don't forget, the Red Cross will bring you a broom, a bucket & mop, and some soap after you get moved back in your home............... :roll: And maybe a bottle of water.

And then charge you for it!
Screw the Red Cross. The Salvation Army is who gets my donations.

:agree: :nod: :nod: :nod:
 

Steve

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kolanuraven said:
In a December press release, Coburn complained that the Sandy Relief bill contained "wasteful spending," and identified a series of items he objected to, including "$12.9 billion for future disaster mitigation activities and studies."

if you were out here and looked at the "disaster aid",.. you would be screaming at how wasteful it is...

they spent a billion already on outreach..

does a pair of fema representatives need to sit in the lowes and home depots for months... reading books..

do we need a pair of fema representatives going house to house ..three and four times ... letting folk know they can help...

sure if they could answer some simple questions... but they, their webpage and hotlines all refer you to the red cross for answers...

and the red cross refers you to your county resources and insurance company...

I've seen some working folk who have nothing.. left homeless.. and the community took care of them... so why blow money on help that can't help?

Is paying a whole lot of people to sit in Home depo and go for walks with a handful of pretty brochures that tell a person to call or go on line
really "needed" ?

I would say they should have put the money towards actually helping people.. and finding real answers for them..

oh and thanks for the money to help us pull a roller coaster out of the surf.. and replenish our beaches..

as for the disaster mitigation.. some of it makes sense.. and using it to buy homes in areas that should never have been built on makes sense ,.. but in the long run it just encourages builders to build in riskier areas..

and again. thanks for the new beaches.. Stone harbor just got a huge chunk of money and now it can restore all its beaches..


Avalon, Stone Harbor beach-replenishment projects double after Sandy

The contract in Avalon and Stone Harbor was originally awarded in the fall for $4.5 million to Norfolk Dredging Co. After Sandy, the Army Corps surveyed the coast and modified the amount, which will also increase the cost. The new cost was not available.

Officials say the project will not be of any cost to Stone Harbor taxpayers and that residents will be able to use the beaches during the project.

Avalon and Stone Harbor did not get hit with the same ferocity by Sandy as points farther north, but they still fared significantly better than nearby barrier islands of Sea Isle City and Ocean City,



about Stone Harbor..
and a year-round population of 866,

The New York Times describes Stone Harbor as a place of "gleaming McMansions and elegant shops",[17] with an average single-family home selling for $2.5 million in 2008.[18] In 2006, Forbes magazine ranked Stone Harbor (ZIP code 08247) as #47 on its list of the most expensive ZIP codes in the United States

As of 2001, Worth magazine ranked Stone Harbor at 101 on its list of the Richest Towns in America

There were 3,247 housing units at an average density of 2,323.3 per square mile (897.0 /km2). The racial makeup of the borough was 97.11% (841) White,

the project went from a few blocks.. $4.5 million to the entire 5 miles of beach..

yep those rich folk thank you tax payers.. .. to them it is chump change ..and they can't see why you are complaining about disaster mitigation..
for a place that was unscathed by sandy..

but to them losing a dock and a few feet of sand is a disaster..
 

TexasBred

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kolanuraven said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/oklahoma-senators-disaster-relief_n_3309234.html


ens. Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn, both Republicans, are fiscal hawks who have repeatedly voted against funding disaster aid for other parts of the country. They also have opposed increased funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which administers federal disaster relief.


Late last year, Inhofe and Coburn both backed a plan to slash disaster relief to victims of Hurricane Sandy. In a December press release, Coburn complained that the Sandy Relief bill contained "wasteful spending," and identified a series of items he objected to, including "$12.9 billion for future disaster mitigation activities and studies."

When you load a potential "good bill" with pork like this you shouldn't expect anyone to vote for it.

The $60 billion bill is loaded full of graft and pork barrel projects, like the following items described by Katie Pavlich:

$13 billion would go to “mitigation” projects to prepare for future storms.
$197 million “to… protect coastal ecosystems and habitat impacted by Hurricane Sandy.”
$8 million to buy cars and equipment for the Homeland Security and Justice departments.
$150 million for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to dole out to fisheries in Alaska.
$10.78 billion for public transportation, “most of which is allocated to future construction and improvements, not disaster relief.”
$17 billion for wasteful Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), “a program that has become notorious for its use as a backdoor earmark program.”
 

hopalong

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Once again in her rush to condem a couple of guys with R behind their names kolo=jingo=lulu=allie fails to know the motives behind the way they voted.... remeinds me of how oldtimer use to delete or chage some of his cut and paste comments to read how he wanted them to read :roll: :roll:
like oldtimer like kolo=jingo=lulu=allie :D :D :D
 

jodywy

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FEMA , on TV awhile ago said not many people coming into to them for shelter and aid. Most are going to Family, neighbors, church, not waiting for a hand out like NYC , or New Orleans LA
 

Mike

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jodywy said:
FEMA , on TV awhile ago said not many people coming into to them for shelter and aid. Most are going to Family, neighbors, church, not waiting for a hand out like NYC , or New Orleans LA

Good for them. They are setting a good example.
 

Whitewing

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Looks like Kola ran into a cement wall while doing her drive by posting. :lol:

Comes back to snipe and gets spanked. :roll:

I think she likes it. :D :D

We really should go easy on her. Let's face it, it's been a tough few weeks for Hope & Change liberals.

Having said that, she's definitely got bigger balls than OT.
 
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