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Keystone XL Pipeline approved by the Senate

Faster horses

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/keystone-xl-pipeline...

In a big symbolic victory for proponents of the Keystone XL pipeline, the Senate on Friday approved a measure introduced by Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.) to approve its construction. Though non-binding, the vote marks the most recent attempt by Republicans to pressure President Barack Obama to move forward with the controversial project.

Hoeven's Amendment 494 to the 2013 budget resolution passed Friday evening by a vote of 62 to 37. The amendment puts the Senate on record for the first time in support of the Keystone XL, the 1,700 mile pipeline that would carry tar sands from Canada to oil refineries in Texas.

"The Department of State has done four environmental impact assessments over the past five years," said Hoeven as he rose to introduce his measure. "It's time that the Senate step up with the American people ... time for us to join every single state on the route to say we support this pipeline."

The vote was part of the Senate's "votearama" -- a legislative quirk in which lawmakers take strictly symbolic votes as a way of opening up dialogue. The process, while tedious, offers a glimpse of senators' feelings and priorities on the issues at hand.

The Democrats who supported the legislation -- most of them vulnerable incumbents facing tough reelection races next year -- include Sens. Max Baucus (Mont.), Tom Carper (Del.), Bob Casey (Pa.), Chris Coons (Del.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Kay Hagan (N.C.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Michael Bennet (Colo.), Tim Johnson (S.D.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Bill Nelson (Fla.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Joe Manchin (W. Va.), Jon Tester (Mont.) and Mark Warner (Va.).

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), chair of the Environment and Public Works Committee, spoke out against the measure on the Senate floor. "This amendment has already made the decision for us that everything is hunky-dory with this pipline," she said. "We don't know if our national security -- people think that dirty tar sands is going to create climate disruption ... there'll be another day to fight, but I want to say ... I hope we will vote no and allow the process to continue."

Boxer introduced her own counter-amendment -- Amendment 622 -- which would create a fund to protect U.S. interests in the Keystone XL decision. Hoeven called it merely "an excuse to kill the project." Boxer's measure was voted down 33 to 66.

Bill Mckibben, founder of climate advocacy group 350.org, denounced the Senate's vote.

"The fossil fuel industry asked the Senate to approve Keystone XL, but ordinary people around the country pushed back -- our 'leaders' ended up taking a meaningless vote instead, and giving us more months to convince the president not to sign off on this boondoggle," he said. "Everything that happens in D.C. happens ugly, and this is no exception -- but it's been beautiful to watch people rallying around the continent."

Over the coming two weeks, 350.org will be targeting the senators who voted to approve the pipeline, according to a press release.

The co-sponsors for Hoeven's amendment include Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska).
 

hypocritexposer

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FH, is that a copy and paste of one of flounder's posts, in a snowstorm. :lol:

I scrolled forever, for the punchline and didn't find one.

Midterms must be coming up, if the Dems. are starting to get things done, that might create jobs.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/keystone-xl-pipeline...

In a big symbolic victory for proponents of the Keystone XL pipeline, the Senate on Friday approved a measure introduced by Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.) to approve its construction. Though non-binding, the vote marks the most recent attempt by Republicans to pressure President Barack Obama to move forward with the controversial project.

Hoeven's Amendment 494 to the 2013 budget resolution passed Friday evening by a vote of 62 to 37. The amendment puts the Senate on record for the first time in support of the Keystone XL, the 1,700 mile pipeline that would carry tar sands from Canada to oil refineries in Texas.

"The Department of State has done four environmental impact assessments over the past five years," said Hoeven as he rose to introduce his measure. "It's time that the Senate step up with the American people ... time for us to join every single state on the route to say we support this pipeline."

The vote was part of the Senate's "votearama" -- a legislative quirk in which lawmakers take strictly symbolic votes as a way of opening up dialogue. The process, while tedious, offers a glimpse of senators' feelings and priorities on the issues at hand.

The Democrats who supported the legislation -- most of them vulnerable incumbents facing tough reelection races next year -- include Sens. Max Baucus (Mont.), Tom Carper (Del.), Bob Casey (Pa.), Chris Coons (Del.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Kay Hagan (N.C.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Michael Bennet (Colo.), Tim Johnson (S.D.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Bill Nelson (Fla.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Joe Manchin (W. Va.), Jon Tester (Mont.) and Mark Warner (Va.).

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), chair of the Environment and Public Works Committee, spoke out against the measure on the Senate floor. "This amendment has already made the decision for us that everything is hunky-dory with this pipline," she said. "We don't know if our national security -- people think that dirty tar sands is going to create climate disruption ... there'll be another day to fight, but I want to say ... I hope we will vote no and allow the process to continue."

Boxer introduced her own counter-amendment -- Amendment 622 -- which would create a fund to protect U.S. interests in the Keystone XL decision. Hoeven called it merely "an excuse to kill the project." Boxer's measure was voted down 33 to 66.

Bill Mckibben, founder of climate advocacy group 350.org, denounced the Senate's vote.

"The fossil fuel industry asked the Senate to approve Keystone XL, but ordinary people around the country pushed back -- our 'leaders' ended up taking a meaningless vote instead, and giving us more months to convince the president not to sign off on this boondoggle," he said. "Everything that happens in D.C. happens ugly, and this is no exception -- but it's been beautiful to watch people rallying around the continent."

Over the coming two weeks, 350.org will be targeting the senators who voted to approve the pipeline, according to a press release.

The co-sponsors for Hoeven's amendment include Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska).
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
Faster horses said:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/keystone-xl-pipeline...

In a big symbolic victory for proponents of the Keystone XL pipeline, the Senate on Friday approved a measure introduced by Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.) to approve its construction. Though non-binding, the vote marks the most recent attempt by Republicans to pressure President Barack Obama to move forward with the controversial project.

Hoeven's Amendment 494 to the 2013 budget resolution passed Friday evening by a vote of 62 to 37. The amendment puts the Senate on record for the first time in support of the Keystone XL, the 1,700 mile pipeline that would carry tar sands from Canada to oil refineries in Texas.

"The Department of State has done four environmental impact assessments over the past five years," said Hoeven as he rose to introduce his measure. "It's time that the Senate step up with the American people ... time for us to join every single state on the route to say we support this pipeline."

The vote was part of the Senate's "votearama" -- a legislative quirk in which lawmakers take strictly symbolic votes as a way of opening up dialogue. The process, while tedious, offers a glimpse of senators' feelings and priorities on the issues at hand.

The Democrats who supported the legislation -- most of them vulnerable incumbents facing tough reelection races next year -- include Sens. Max Baucus (Mont.), Tom Carper (Del.), Bob Casey (Pa.), Chris Coons (Del.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Kay Hagan (N.C.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Michael Bennet (Colo.), Tim Johnson (S.D.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.), Bill Nelson (Fla.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Joe Manchin (W. Va.), Jon Tester (Mont.) and Mark Warner (Va.).

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), chair of the Environment and Public Works Committee, spoke out against the measure on the Senate floor. "This amendment has already made the decision for us that everything is hunky-dory with this pipline," she said. "We don't know if our national security -- people think that dirty tar sands is going to create climate disruption ... there'll be another day to fight, but I want to say ... I hope we will vote no and allow the process to continue."

Boxer introduced her own counter-amendment -- Amendment 622 -- which would create a fund to protect U.S. interests in the Keystone XL decision. Hoeven called it merely "an excuse to kill the project." Boxer's measure was voted down 33 to 66.

Bill Mckibben, founder of climate advocacy group 350.org, denounced the Senate's vote.

"The fossil fuel industry asked the Senate to approve Keystone XL, but ordinary people around the country pushed back -- our 'leaders' ended up taking a meaningless vote instead, and giving us more months to convince the president not to sign off on this boondoggle," he said. "Everything that happens in D.C. happens ugly, and this is no exception -- but it's been beautiful to watch people rallying around the continent."

Over the coming two weeks, 350.org will be targeting the senators who voted to approve the pipeline, according to a press release.

The co-sponsors for Hoeven's amendment include Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska).


Here I was looking forward to BMR's response, and had to scroll for ever to get to it. :lol: :lol:
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
FH, is that a copy and paste of one of flounder's posts, in a snowstorm. :lol:

I scrolled forever, for the punchline and didn't find one.

Midterms must be coming up, if the Dems. are starting to get things done, that might create jobs.

In the blank space it said about as much as what flounder posts. However, I
didn't mean for all that blank space to be there. I just got back and tried to
fix it, but I can't. Any idea how I can shorten it?

I think BMR forgot to post his punchline. Maybe he was trying to show me how
to shorten it. I'm embarresed. :oops:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
hypocritexposer said:
FH, is that a copy and paste of one of flounder's posts, in a snowstorm. :lol:

I scrolled forever, for the punchline and didn't find one.

Midterms must be coming up, if the Dems. are starting to get things done, that might create jobs.

In the blank space it said about as much as what flounder posts. However, I
didn't mean for all that blank space to be there. I just got back and tried to
fix it, but I can't. Any idea how I can shorten it?

I think BMR forgot to post his punchline. Maybe he was trying to show me how
to shorten it. I'm embarresed. :oops:

Did you try deleting/back spacing, from the top of your signature?

It's not a problem FH, I was just funning you. :wink: :)
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Faster horses said:
hypocritexposer said:
FH, is that a copy and paste of one of flounder's posts, in a snowstorm. :lol:

I scrolled forever, for the punchline and didn't find one.

Midterms must be coming up, if the Dems. are starting to get things done, that might create jobs.

In the blank space it said about as much as what flounder posts. However, I
didn't mean for all that blank space to be there. I just got back and tried to
fix it, but I can't. Any idea how I can shorten it?

I think BMR forgot to post his punchline. Maybe he was trying to show me how
to shorten it. I'm embarresed. :oops:

Did you try deleting/back spacing, from the top of your signature?

It's not a problem FH, I was just funning you. :wink: :)

I did try that......there is nothing there so backspacing didn't work.
I know you were funning me, no problem at all, I just wish I could fix it
and I have no idea why it turned out that way. Gee, I hate to take up as
much room as flouder saying the same amount of nothing. :p :wink:

OK, I think I figured it out. I did copy and paste a much longer part of the discussion and I deleted it all except the news part. I went back and checked
before I left to make sure it was all deleted. Now I see one itsy bitsy dot
clear down at the end of all the blankness. So that's what happened.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
hypocritexposer said:
FH, is that a copy and paste of one of flounder's posts, in a snowstorm. :lol:

I scrolled forever, for the punchline and didn't find one.

Midterms must be coming up, if the Dems. are starting to get things done, that might create jobs.

In the blank space it said about as much as what flounder posts. However, I
didn't mean for all that blank space to be there. I just got back and tried to
fix it, but I can't. Any idea how I can shorten it?

I think BMR forgot to post his punchline. Maybe he was trying to show me how
to shorten it. I'm embarresed. :oops:
For some reason the (quote) symbol was way down at the bottom when i quoted it. Not sure how you would do it with your edit button. Is there a Period at the bottom of the post after the white page?
 

Tam

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
hypocritexposer said:
Faster horses said:
In the blank space it said about as much as what flounder posts. However, I
didn't mean for all that blank space to be there. I just got back and tried to
fix it, but I can't. Any idea how I can shorten it?

I think BMR forgot to post his punchline. Maybe he was trying to show me how
to shorten it. I'm embarresed. :oops:

Did you try deleting/back spacing, from the top of your signature?

It's not a problem FH, I was just funning you. :wink: :)

I did try that......there is nothing there so backspacing didn't work.
I know you were funning me, no problem at all, I just wish I could fix it
and I have no idea why it turned out that way. Gee, I hate to take up as
much room as flouder and say the same amount of nothing. :p :wink:

At least reading your post FH I didn't get a headache like I do with Flounders :wink:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
FH, on my "test", it worked to highlight, (left click and drag mouse upwards), then hit delete. You won't see what you are highlighting though, so only do a bit at a time. Or in your case, a page at a time. :p
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
Faster horses said:
hypocritexposer said:
FH, is that a copy and paste of one of flounder's posts, in a snowstorm. :lol:

I scrolled forever, for the punchline and didn't find one.

Midterms must be coming up, if the Dems. are starting to get things done, that might create jobs.

In the blank space it said about as much as what flounder posts. However, I
didn't mean for all that blank space to be there. I just got back and tried to
fix it, but I can't. Any idea how I can shorten it?

I think BMR forgot to post his punchline. Maybe he was trying to show me how
to shorten it. I'm embarresed. :oops:
For some reason the (quote) symbol was way down at the bottom when i quoted it. Not sure how you would do it with your edit button. Is there a Period at the bottom of the post after the white page?

YES! Scroll back for my explanation. :oops:
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
Tam said:
Faster horses said:
hypocritexposer said:
Did you try deleting/back spacing, from the top of your signature?

It's not a problem FH, I was just funning you. :wink: :)

I did try that......there is nothing there so backspacing didn't work.
I know you were funning me, no problem at all, I just wish I could fix it
and I have no idea why it turned out that way. Gee, I hate to take up as
much room as flouder and say the same amount of nothing. :p :wink:

At least reading your post FH I didn't get a headache like I do with Flounders :wink:

That's good. OT wouldn't want you to suffer any more. :p
Can you honestly say you try to read what flounder posts????? :shock:
 

Tam

Well-known member
Faster horses said:
Tam said:
Faster horses said:
I did try that......there is nothing there so backspacing didn't work.
I know you were funning me, no problem at all, I just wish I could fix it
and I have no idea why it turned out that way. Gee, I hate to take up as
much room as flouder and say the same amount of nothing. :p :wink:

At least reading your post FH I didn't get a headache like I do with Flounders :wink:

That's good. OT wouldn't want you to suffer any more. :p
Can you honestly say you try to read what flounder posts????? :shock:

Tried once :roll: :wink:
 
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