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DejaVu said:
I've read through all 10 pages of this thread. Many facets of the industry have been discussed. I'm going to open an entirely new one: The beef check off. We sell calves and are charged $1 per head, when the calf brings whatever the market allows. Purebred breeders sell an animal for $1,000 to
$156,000 and they pay $1 on the sale of that animal. Seems to me like it should be a percentage. Anyone else ever thought about this?
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Maybe all calves should get the same price, no matter if it is a pot bellied scrub or a deep ,soggy one .. :wink:
 
Heck take it a step fuirther.

The government could alocate everyone so many cattle, then at weaning they are delivered to a government facility and we wait for pay from the government. Of course they would have to put a limit on the number we are alocated to raise. The EID could keep us all honest. Man isn't government great.
 
I've screwed up apparently. I do not like the check off..period. We are continuously told the check off isn't adequately funded. They are wanting to raise the amount to $2.00. All I meant was, take a look at structuring it differently. I'm sorry my posts are stupid, Yanuck. I forget I'm a moron and every now and then, someone has to put me in my place.
 
DejaVu said:
I've screwed up apparently. I do not like the check off..period. We are continuously told the check off isn't adequately funded. They are wanting to raise the amount to $2.00. All I meant was, take a look at structuring it differently. I'm sorry my posts are stupid, Yanuck. I forget I'm a moron and every now and then, someone has to put me in my place.
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Thats your right not to like it, but why should PB breeders have to pay more?...how much did they spend before they sell that big money animal? how come the guys who sell 1000 calves don't have to pay more than the guy that sells 50? they clearly would make more money..as I've said before if the PB business is easy, why not buy some and go into business for yourself?
 
I have a stack of bull sale catalogs by my desk. I save them until the end of the sale season, around June 1. Currently, the stack is close to a foot high. In my area, there isn't room for one more purebred breeder. There aren't enough buyers for the number of bulls offered. Financially, I can't afford a registered herd. Creep feed is $220+ a ton. That doesn't pencil out unless I know I could sell enough high dollar animals to pay the feed bill. You see, registered breeders say they don't creep feed, but the feed truck drivers for the local Co-op's will tell a different story. Now that's around here. I'm not saying this is you or anyone else reading this. You will find, in my area, registered breeders have something that subsidizes their cattle, oil money.
 
I guess that goes to show that the PB business is not necessarily all profit. Given that bit of information why should they pay a higher tax than the commercial guy. The grass only looks greener from a distance. :?
 
I apologize. It was just a thought. Sometimes you don't know how wrong or stupid an idea is until you're told. I definitely have been told it's wrong and that my posts are off the wall. Sorry to have been such a problem for everyone.
 
DV you should send each of the PB outfits a note or a phone call that they need not send you any catalogs and to please take you off their mailing list. I am sure they will be grateful and you will be saving them money that they waste on that catalog they sent to you that you will never buy from, leaving them more money to buy creep feed for their big fat useless overpriced bulls.. :lol:

Now I am off to go feed my big too fat to walk ,registers bulls that are for sale btw if anyone is interested.. :wink:
 
Jeepers you put something out there, in some minds it may be a good idea. Apologizing is not at all necessary. Wouldn't be much fun here if we all thought the same. :shock:
 
I have problems with the checkoff. I suppose that is why I was sarcastic. While the idea is good then when you pass that point the problems start
 
I have a very hard time perceiving any benefit that my tax(check off) dollars have realized. Maybe it has never been properly communicated to me, but you would think the ABP would be interested in showing all the very good things they have done with our money that has benefited us so much.
 
Dylan Biggs said:
I have a very hard time perceiving any benefit that my tax(check off) dollars have realized. Maybe it has never been properly communicated to me, but you would think the ABP would be interested in showing all the very good things they have done with our money that has benefited us so much.
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You can request for it back ,can you not ? I am not sure but I thought I read that you could request for a refund of all check off dollars.. :?

As far as those expensive registered cattle selling for way more than others, just think of all the taxes they have to pay on them.. :P
 
Yes as of April 1 it will be refundable in Alberta. I plan to send mine to the WSGA as a voluntary donation to a group that is funded by voluntary membership.
 
As I understand it, the checkoff money generated in the USA is not refundable. Credit for the idea I presented earlier goes to Wes Ishmael. He proposed it a couple of years ago in BEEF magazine.
 
Dylan Biggs said:
I have a very hard time perceiving any benefit that my tax(check off) dollars have realized. Maybe it has never been properly communicated to me, but you would think the ABP would be interested in showing all the very good things they have done with our money that has benefited us so much.
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Ever since the U.S. check-off(about 1985), the producer's share of the consumer's dollar has gone down...BUT, according the the check-off folks, it would be a lot worse if not for the check-off!! :???: :? :roll:

I think the check-off should be raised to $2.00 and paid at the packer's gate! Why should producers pay for their benefit???

Oh, wait...we will anyway! :shock:
 
RobertMac said:
Dylan Biggs said:
I have a very hard time perceiving any benefit that my tax(check off) dollars have realized. Maybe it has never been properly communicated to me, but you would think the ABP would be interested in showing all the very good things they have done with our money that has benefited us so much.
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Ever since the U.S. check-off(about 1985), the producer's share of the consumer's dollar has gone down...BUT, according the the check-off folks, it would be a lot worse if not for the check-off!! :???: :? :roll:

I think the check-off should be raised to $2.00 and paid at the packer's gate! Why should producers pay for their benefit???

Oh, wait...we will anyway! :shock:
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How about 10 cents a cut at the true gougers the retailers.
 
Faster horses said:
Check off dollars were refundable by request in the beginning,
I'm not sure if they still are, however.
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Nope- don't you remember the Charters case?...The NCBA attorneys argued they were a government/USDA mandated "tax" - and the Courts essentially went along with that argument....
 

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