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Kucinich Blames US Meddling for Russian Invasion

hypocritexposer

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Russian state owned media sources :lol: :lol:

"What I'd do is not have USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy working with U.S. taxpayers' money to knock off an elected government in Ukraine, which is what they did," Kucinich answered. "I wouldn't try to force the people of Ukraine into a deal with NATO against their interest or into a deal with the European Union, which is against their economic interest."

"So, it's the USA's fault that Putin rolled in? We made them do it?" O'Reilly asked.

"Bill O'Reilly, if you don't believe in cause and effect, I don't know what I can do for you," Kucinich responded.

Kucinich said the United States has been involved covertly and behind the scenes with the CIA and two government foreign aid groups, the National Endowment for Democracy and the United States Agency for International Development, to "stir up trouble in Ukraine."

He didn't specify what the groups had done, but said the democracy endowment had sponsored 65 programs. He said the United States should stay out of Ukraine's affairs and let its people decide their future without outside interference.

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Tam

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Kurcinich was on O'Reilly tonight and he looked as foolish as you Hyp by the time Bill got done with him.
 

hypocritexposer

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yes, because believing this State Dept. hasn't and does not continue to meddle would be foolish

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian affairs Victoria Nuland

We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals." Nuland said the United States will continue to "promote Ukraine to the future it deserves."
 

Steve

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gee you and kookinuich

I read some of the things paid for with this money.. schools.. kindergarten classes across the nation.. buses trains.. infrastructure,..aids treatment training judges,

you are a real piece of work

you take a bunch of opinions and put it with your slander and try to justify an invasion.. usually that is called a conspiracy theory.. but your just amounts to a bunch of wild accusations and insults..
 

hypocritexposer

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Ron Paul explains the financing through USAID of different political groups in Ukraine, but I'm sure it never happens anymore.

Ron Paul Rewind: Questions US Meddling in Ukraine…in 2004!



Ron Paul questions US Ambassador to Ukraine John Tefft on US meddling in Ukraine back in December 7, 2004. Rep. Paul presents the Ambassador with evidence at the time that the US was deeply involved in internal Ukrainian affairs by openly funding NGOs affiliated with certain presidential candidates. He suggests that an audit be made of all US aid to Ukraine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TybmfQzrO4A

transcript:

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa97187.000/hfa97187_0f.htm
 

hypocritexposer

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Nuland and Pyatt allegedly discuss who they want to promote and prevent from entering the Ukrainian government, which if true would provide further evidence of the US government meddling in Ukrainian internal affairs. Nuland later states that she wants to bypass the EU and work with the United Nations to pursue America’s interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM

The phone call ends with Nuland saying she can get U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden to make a phone call, presumably to Yanukovych “for an at-ta-boy and to get the deeds to stick.” Biden has talked to Yanukovych by telephone at least four times in the last month.
 

Steve

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your right.. how dare we get involved with allies .. nope we should have just let Putin have them..

that way he could eliminate (kill) all those who opposed him ..
how dare we invest in another country so they can have independence..

the gall...

keep it up and you might one of those trinkets the soviets used to hand out to the good little commies who turned in their neighbors..

Obama may have screwed this up with his ineptness.. but the fact is.. under Russia's control there will be alot of good people who will just disappear..

and then they will start on the next country.. Belarus ..
 

Tam

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WOW is your head spinning as mine is :roll: Hyp you claimed in one thread you don't believe either Putin or Obama and in another thread you claim you believe Putin over Obama. In one thread you blame the US for the Russian invasion, on another you claim you don't blame the US for the invasion. But then you post this crap to somehow blame the invasion on US meddling. I think you need to go back and read what you have been posting for the last couple days and get your story straight as you are beginning to sound like the Obama Administration where Kerry says everything is on the table and Obama two minutes later is reported to have said military force is not on the table. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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I don't believe either of them, but given a choice on whether to believe Putin or obama, I would believe Putin

I blame the US, as in the US under the leadership of obama. I do not blame the US, as in the citizens.

Yes, without obama's meddling, the World would be a safer place, where dogs are not cornered and have to come out snapping.

I don't doubt for a second that Putin's reaction was fully anticipated by the obama administration and that provoking him was part of the plan.
 

Steve

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bullcrap.. don't try to weasel out now that you painted yourself into a corner.. your comments are there for everyone to read..

you insulted our country over and over again..

at least be man enough to stand by what you said..

what's the matter afraid I would post more links to your Sept 11th crap..
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
bullcrap.. don't try to weasel out now that you painted yourself into a corner.. your comments are there for everyone to read..

you insulted our country over and over again..

at least be man enough to stand by what you said..

what's the matter afraid I would post more links to your Sept 11th crap..

How the hell did I insult the United States? If criticizing the President's actions is considered insulting the Country, then you are also guilty.

Tam asked about US invasions of other Countries and I posted acouple of examples.
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
bullcrap.. don't try to weasel out now that you painted yourself into a corner.. your comments are there for everyone to read..

you insulted our country over and over again..

at least be man enough to stand by what you said..

what's the matter afraid I would post more links to your Sept 11th crap..

How the hell did I insult the United States? If criticizing the President's actions is considered insulting the Country, then you are also guilty.

Tam asked about US invasions of other Countries and I posted acouple of examples.

bullcrap..

no she didn't, ... you started that line of crap all on your own.. .. don't try to blame this on someone else you weasel..


I will say it again.. screw you,.. you little twerp.. anyone who can read can see your intent was to drag the US through the mud while holding Putin up as some sort of maligned innocent in all this..

like I said several pages ago.. I lost all respect I had for you.. and then you just went further..

and if there was a shred of respect left .. it is gone now..

first is was blaming Sept 11th one US and now blaming Russia invading the Ukraine on US.. you really take the cake..

now you don't even have the balls to own what you wrote.. and have to blame it on someone else..

gees what a piece of ----
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
bullcrap.. don't try to weasel out now that you painted yourself into a corner.. your comments are there for everyone to read..

you insulted our country over and over again..

at least be man enough to stand by what you said..

what's the matter afraid I would post more links to your Sept 11th crap..

How the hell did I insult the United States? If criticizing the President's actions is considered insulting the Country, then you are also guilty.

Tam asked about US invasions of other Countries and I posted acouple of examples.

bullcrap..

no she didn't, ... you started that line of crap all on your own.. .. don't try to blame this on someone else you weasel..


I will say it again.. screw you,.. you little twerp.. anyone who can read can see your intent was to drag the US through the mud while holding Putin up as some sort of maligned innocent in all this..

Tam said:
What country has the US invaded to take them over Hyp? :?
 

Steve

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bullcrap again..

your post right before hers..

or when the US takes over part of Cuba

and I know I could go back further from that and find "plenty" more examples..

blaming someone else for what you started is low.. pathetic.. but low..
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
bullcrap again..

your post right before hers..

or when the US takes over part of Cuba

and I know I could go back further from that and find "plenty" more examples..

Did she ask the question or not? Did I answer said question?

And you took the answer as insulting the US...I can't help that. The answer was not intended as an insult, I can assure you of that.
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
bullcrap again..

your post right before hers..

or when the US takes over part of Cuba

and I know I could go back further from that and find "plenty" more examples..

Did she ask the question or not? Did I answer said question?

And you took the answer as insulting the US...I can't help that. The answer was not intended as an insult, I can assure you of that.

bullcrap.. as I said and I stand by my words.

you started that line of crap all on your own.. .. don't try to blame this on someone else.


maybe you should read what you post over and over and over again before you post it..

how many times did I prove you wrong.. three at least on the Granada issue.. did you stop.. nope...

instead.. you just dredged up some other propaganda.. and acted like it was the truth..

you chose to try to drag my country through the mud.. and it isn't the first time.. I will not forget it..
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
bullcrap again..

your post right before hers..



and I know I could go back further from that and find "plenty" more examples..

Did she ask the question or not? Did I answer said question?

And you took the answer as insulting the US...I can't help that. The answer was not intended as an insult, I can assure you of that.

bullcrap.. as I said and I stand by my words.

you started that line of crap all on your own.. .. don't try to blame this on someone else.


maybe you should read what you post over and over and over again before you post it..

how many times did I prove you wrong.. three at least on the Granada issue.. did you stop.. nope...

instead.. you just dredged up some other propaganda.. and acted like it was the truth..

you chose to try to drag my country through the mud.. and it isn't the first time.. I will not forget it..

:roll:

you should really go back and re-read what was posted

you did not prove anything I posted, from that propaganda filled NYTimes wrong
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
hypocritexposer said:
Did she ask the question or not? Did I answer said question?

And you took the answer as insulting the US...I can't help that. The answer was not intended as an insult, I can assure you of that.

bullcrap.. as I said and I stand by my words.

you started that line of crap all on your own.. .. don't try to blame this on someone else.


maybe you should read what you post over and over and over again before you post it..

how many times did I prove you wrong.. three at least on the Granada issue.. did you stop.. nope...

instead.. you just dredged up some other propaganda.. and acted like it was the truth..

you chose to try to drag my country through the mud.. and it isn't the first time.. I will not forget it..

:roll:

you should really go back and re-read what was posted

you did not prove anything I posted, from that propaganda filled NYTimes wrong

first off.. I am not going back and reading all the crap you dredged up..

I am done with you..I am not going to prove or disprove anything to entertain you.. I don't give a crap what you think at this point..


secondly you need to stop doing drugs or something.. if you can't handle a dozen different threads.. then maybe you shouldn't start them all


oh and thirdly.. I already commented on that propaganda crap... and made my point..

did you miss the part where I said I could care less about what you think.. if you did it is a few lines up..

and if you missed that point.. I have no time nor desire to read a propaganda piece from the Moscow times.. by a pro-Putin Russian reporter.
 
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