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Texan

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I first started hearing about this story yesterday. Everybody that likes a good conspiracy theory will love this one. Of course, stranger things have actually happened. But, is this one fact or fiction? You decide...

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BREAKING: MULTIPLE RANCHES IN LAREDO, TX TAKEN OVER BY LOS ZETAS

Published 07/24/2010 - 2:30 p.m. CST


The bloodbath continues along our southern border and now word is coming in that Los Zetas, the highly trained killers formerly with the Gulf Cartel, have crossed into the United States and taken over at least two ranches in the Laredo, Texas area. I am receiving word that the owners of the ranches have evacuated without being harmed....


More:

http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/BREAKING_MULTIPLE_RANCHES_IN_LAREDO_TX_TAKEN_OVER_BY_LOS_ZETAS/31835
 

Texan

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Here's the latest update from The Cypress Times in it's entirety. It was published about three hours ago.

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LOS ZETAS TAKES OVER TEXAS RANCHES, NOT A PEEP FROM MSM

John G. Winder, The Cypress Times

Published 07/25/2010 - 9:48 a.m. CST


But is the story True or False? And why we’re sticking with it until the end.

Yesterday, The Cypress Times published an article from DiggersRealm.com, with permission of the author, which stated that two ranches in Laredo, Texas had been seized by armed members of the Los Zetas Mexican drug cartel.

The story quickly went viral and was picked up by, literally, thousands of websites and bloggers. However, throngs of doubters and nay-sayers among readers and internet users soon appeared to call the story “wrong,” “fake,” a “lie” and worse. You can read some of the more tame comments received on the article published by The Cypress Times HERE.

I have been in contact with the citizen journalist (blogger) that broke the story. He writes under the name Digger, and he is the publisher of DiggersRealm.com and is standing firmly behind his story and his sources. In addition, Kimberly Dvorak of the Examiner.com has now confirmed the information as well using sources independent of Digger’s.

From DiggersRealm.com -


First, let me clarify that I was also skeptical of the story when I initially heard word. It is certainly not because there haven't been armed intrusions into the United States before from Mexico. There have been a ton in the last decade, but there have not been any where they would hold onto a position. They usually leave after a standoff or upon discovery.

The situation has become different in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico over the last few days. There have been gun-battles through the streets and fragmentation grenades used as the government of Mexico tries to run the Los Zetas out of their stronghold there. People died and were wounded. The city was on lockdown and the US government issued warnings to US citizens in the area to remain indoors. With our lack of border security and porous borders, it is not beneath my intellect to believe that the Los Zetas could be forced into a retreat into US territory and attempt to seize a hideout.

Not only that, but "first contact" with me of the initial story was from none other than Jeff Schwilk, founder of the San Diego Minutemen, who had a confirmed source in the area of Laredo. With this in mind I decided to go with the story, but to remain cautious. I clearly stated on the story that it was not 100% confirmed. It remained that way all night.

I put out my feelers throughout the night to try and collect information and other credible sources to confirm the occupation of ranches in Laredo. I did not receive actual confirmation until this morning when I got word that Kimberly Dvorak of the Examiner had made multiple confirmations within the Laredo Police Department. Up until this point the story had not spread wide. There was no reason for the Laredo Police Department to crack down hard and keep things truly blacked out as there was no heavy interest from media.

However, upon that second confirmation and her running her story "Los Zetas drug cartel seizes 2 U.S. ranches in Texas" the story to me at that point was 100% confirmed. I changed my story to reflect that and released it to the world - spreading it wide. It has since gone viral.

(Since then I have learned Kim has no less than three sources inside law enforcement. Kim was also involved in the Acorn investigation with Breitbart, so she's no whipper snapper.)

Since that time many journalists have tried to get information from law enforcement in the area. With the flood of calls to the Laredo Police Department, others are now starting to receive dodgy kind of answers to their questions. This leads me to believe that there may indeed by a bona-fide news blackout as they try to resolve the situation.

We do have people looking into it and digging further; other things behind the scenes are going on for additional confirmation other than the current sources.

Both Digger and Dvorak are being told by multiple sources in law enforcement that a “news blackout” is in place around these unfolding events.

A news blackout is basically an order from the top down to disavow any knowledge of a situation or story. Deflect, disavow and deny. There are many reasons for this. They range from the legitimate tactical reasoning to the downright nefarious "cover up" reasoning.

Tactical reasoning is an easy one. It is so they can perform their duties with minimal intrusion. That one is very simple to understand.

The article continues by examining more nefarious, or politically motivated, reasons that “officials” might enforce a media blackout.

DiggersRealm.com is an established and respected blog having been online and on the front lines of independent internet journalism for over seven years.

Kimberly Dvorak is a well-established, credible internet journalist. I am standing with them and continuing to run this story here in The Cypress Times.

If I have miscalculated, or if the story’s sources prove to be wrong, then I’ll apologize to all of our readers with a front page article.

As to those of you who have asked, “Why not pull the story?” or “Doesn't running this story show a lack of journalistic integrity?” I can offer the following.

To the "Watergate" example; if Woodward and Bernstein had stopped when the government, even the President of the United States had denied the story the truth would never have come to light. Like this story related to the takeover of two Texas ranches by a drug cartel, Woodward and Bernstein used a "confidential source."

If we, in the internet space, are to be different from the MSM, we cannot stop the pursuit of a story because of government denials, or simply because the MSM isn't reporting the story, too.

Sometimes we outside of the MSM have to trust each other, and rely on one another’s integrity. While we are dedicated to our work, we are also outmanned and outgunned by the established news services both locally and nationally.

A local television station in a small town employs dozens of people in order to generate the “news”. A major market television station or newspaper employs hundreds. At a network level the staffing numbers become ridiculous. Yet how often do you see a genuine news story carried by only one mainstream media outlet and not the others?

Does having more feet on the ground make a news organization better? Maybe, but not necessarily. It all gets down to individual work ethic and integrity. Never forget that the entire world of professional journalism was blind to “Watergate” save for two enterprising reporters.

The mainstream media has a "follow the leader" mentality these days as well as a broad and well-documented streak of lazy. If one of their own covers a story they all follow suit in true lemming fashion while claiming to have done it better and faster and first.

Out here in the nether regions of this new burgeoning frontier called citizen journalism, or internet news, or the blogosphere, we have little to no staff, fewer resources, no money and a burning desire to get to the truth; even if the truth is initially denied by government officials, or the MSM. We must rely solely on hard work and integrity; our own, and our compatriots who have grown tired of being force fed what corporate media determines to be “newsworthy”.

Let’s face it, none of us in the alternative internet journalism space would even exist if you fully believed that it’s only true if you’ve seen it on NBC, CBS, ABC or Fox or read it in the New York Times.

This particular story concerning a “reported” takeover of two Texas ranches by a Mexican drug cartel could be a real game changer for citizen journalism, for the new age of internet news that sometimes reports what is completely contrary to the news being reported by the MSM. This could be one of those watershed events that changes things forever.

We’ll wait as the story develops, follow where it leads, and act accordingly.



http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/LOS_ZETAS_TAKES_OVER_TEXAS_RANCHES_NOT_A_PEEP_FROM_MSM/31840
 

Steve

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* Pirates terrorize boaters on Texas lake along Mexican border

With machine-guns in hand, Mexico's deadliest cartel is patrolling the waters of a Texas border lake. These pirates have already hit several boats. It's happening on Falcon Lake in Zapata.
http://www.kens5.com/video?id=94535754&sec=547187
 
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Anonymous

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From what I've been reading these attacks across the border have mostly been hit and run back to Mexico to hide-- or in the case of Texas Lake have been happening on the Mexican side or close enough where they can run back in Mexican waters where US law enforcement does not have jurisdiction....

This is reminiscent of the Mexican bandito activity of the l9th and early 20th century...Much on the lines of Pancho Villa who actually held government power (provisional Governor of Chihuahua )- and who led raids into the US- but then hid behind the Mexican border...
Back then President Wilson sent US troops under Blackjack Pershing into Mexico after Villa and the banditos- in what has been called the Punitive Expedition...

Do you believe that is what we should do today? Invade another sovereign nation?
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
From what I've been reading these attacks across the border have mostly been hit and run back to Mexico to hide-- or in the case of Texas Lake have been happening on the Mexican side or close enough where they can run back in Mexican waters where US law enforcement does not have jurisdiction....

This is reminiscent of the Mexican bandito activity of the l9th and early 20th century...Much on the lines of Pancho Villa who actually held government power (provisional Governor of Chihuahua )- and who led raids into the US- but then hid behind the Mexican border...
Back then President Wilson sent US troops under Blackjack Pershing into Mexico after Villa and the banditos- in what has been called the Punitive Expedition...

Do you believe that is what we should do today? Invade another sovereign nation?

If that nation can't or won't stop maintaining a haven for criminals, what else does one do?
 

Mike

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
From what I've been reading these attacks across the border have mostly been hit and run back to Mexico to hide-- or in the case of Texas Lake have been happening on the Mexican side or close enough where they can run back in Mexican waters where US law enforcement does not have jurisdiction....

This is reminiscent of the Mexican bandito activity of the l9th and early 20th century...Much on the lines of Pancho Villa who actually held government power (provisional Governor of Chihuahua )- and who led raids into the US- but then hid behind the Mexican border...
Back then President Wilson sent US troops under Blackjack Pershing into Mexico after Villa and the banditos- in what has been called the Punitive Expedition...

Do you believe that is what we should do today? Invade another sovereign nation?

If that nation can't or won't stop maintaining a haven for criminals, what else does one do?

Of course you do. That was a stupid question to start with. :roll:
 

Tam

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Mike said:
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
From what I've been reading these attacks across the border have mostly been hit and run back to Mexico to hide-- or in the case of Texas Lake have been happening on the Mexican side or close enough where they can run back in Mexican waters where US law enforcement does not have jurisdiction....

This is reminiscent of the Mexican bandito activity of the l9th and early 20th century...Much on the lines of Pancho Villa who actually held government power (provisional Governor of Chihuahua )- and who led raids into the US- but then hid behind the Mexican border...
Back then President Wilson sent US troops under Blackjack Pershing into Mexico after Villa and the banditos- in what has been called the Punitive Expedition...

Do you believe that is what we should do today? Invade another sovereign nation?

If that nation can't or won't stop maintaining a haven for criminals, what else does one do?

Of course you do. That was a stupid question to start with. :roll:

No guys Oldtimer would call the poor misunderstood souls into the White House Rose Garden, serve them imported beer while apologizing to them for their lives that somehow greedy Americans caused , and promise them amnesty and citizenship as long as they agree to use their guns to supply Obama's domestic military force when Obama claims Marshall law to hold onto the Presidency in 2012. :wink:

Yes Oldtimer you do what ever it takes to PROTECT US CITIZENS. :roll:
 

redrobin

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Big ears will send horse face down to have a "high level" meeting between the U.S. and the Los Zetas leader El Lazca. We wouldn't want to miss the chance to find common ground would we?
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
From what I've been reading these attacks across the border have mostly been hit and run back to Mexico to hide-- or in the case of Texas Lake have been happening on the Mexican side or close enough where they can run back in Mexican waters where US law enforcement does not have jurisdiction....

This is reminiscent of the Mexican bandito activity of the l9th and early 20th century...Much on the lines of Pancho Villa who actually held government power (provisional Governor of Chihuahua )- and who led raids into the US- but then hid behind the Mexican border...
Back then President Wilson sent US troops under Blackjack Pershing into Mexico after Villa and the banditos- in what has been called the Punitive Expedition...

Do you believe that is what we should do today? Invade another sovereign nation?[/quote]

They are invading us or don't you see it that way?
There is an area near PHX that is over run by them that is a long way from the border actually close to 200 miles, :wink: :wink:
Blows your theory of hit and run all to he!! oldtimer
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
From what I've been reading these attacks across the border have mostly been hit and run back to Mexico to hide-- or in the case of Texas Lake have been happening on the Mexican side or close enough where they can run back in Mexican waters where US law enforcement does not have jurisdiction....

This is reminiscent of the Mexican bandito activity of the l9th and early 20th century...Much on the lines of Pancho Villa who actually held government power (provisional Governor of Chihuahua )- and who led raids into the US- but then hid behind the Mexican border...
Back then President Wilson sent US troops under Blackjack Pershing into Mexico after Villa and the banditos- in what has been called the Punitive Expedition...

Do you believe that is what we should do today? Invade another sovereign nation?

I realize that you are talking about the cartels OT, but it carries over to non cartel members too.


FBI STATS
With all the negative reports being printed in the news media here are the statistics they fail to report.

•83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
•86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
•75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles , Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens
•24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals
•40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals
•48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals
•29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and Federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually
•53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
•50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens
•71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or ”transport coyotes”.
•47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
•63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens
•66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.
•380,000 plus “anchor babies” were born in the US to illegal alien parents in just one year, making 380,000 babies automatically US citizens (which is UN-Constitutional; illegal).
•97.2% of all costs incurred from those illegal births were paid by the American taxpayers.
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Mike said:
Sandhusker said:
If that nation can't or won't stop maintaining a haven for criminals, what else does one do?

Of course you do. That was a stupid question to start with. :roll:

No guys Oldtimer would call the poor misunderstood souls into the White House Rose Garden, serve them imported beer while apologizing to them for their lives that somehow greedy Americans caused , and promise them amnesty and citizenship as long as they agree to use their guns to supply Obama's domestic military force when Obama claims Marshall law to hold onto the Presidency in 2012. :wink:

Yes Oldtimer you do what ever it takes to PROTECT US CITIZENS. :roll:

I think if I remember right- that was Bush and McCain along with Kennedy that wrote/promoted that last amnesty bill ?

And it appears to me- that most those in the US already- are not the ones doing the raiding and attacking on the US/Mexican border...These are Mexican based gangs....

So you think we should do an invasion of Mexico- and step into their civil war with US troops- which could lead to a total collapse of all government in Mexico- and leave us with another country to fund, rebuild, and put our troops in danger for years ahead babysitting in...? Three wars at one time?

Did we learn nothing in Iraq?
Will Teabaggers be willing to spend the extra money to do that? Where will the costs of that come ? Should Obama pass a Mexican war tax?
 

hypocritexposer

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You don't ave to set foot into Mexico. Secure the border.

I thought obama said it was more secure than it has been in the last 20 years, which you agreed with OT.

How can it be secure, if these cartel's are jumping back and forth across the border as you claim?
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
You don't ave to set foot into Mexico. Secure the border.

I thought obama said it was more secure than it has been in the last 20 years?

I agree Hypocrit- and Obama is correct on the border being more secure than it has been for 20 years....But conditions in Mexico are worse than they've been since about Pancho Villa times.....I hope we don't get drug into it- and end up with another country we have to support...

But the current neocons have forgotten that nationbuilding is not a true conservative principle :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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With all of the illegals we have here now that are sending their paychecks back to Mexico, we are in one way already supporting Mexico. Wouldn't you agree OT?
 

Mike

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BAR BAR 2 said:
With all of the illegals we have here now that are sending their paychecks back to Mexico, we are in one way already supporting Mexico. Wouldn't you agree OT?

Mexico's Second Largest Source of Income

Mexico is very motivated to export its human capital to the USA. They even publish a how-to guide.

Money sent back to Mexico from those working in the United States reached a record high last year [2005], $20 billion, making remittances from migrants Mexico's second largest source of income, surpassed only by oil exports.


The race is on. The border crossing are up. Mexico is encouraging the northern migration urgency. The idiotic Congress, especially the Senate, is trying to offer an amnesty package.

Call it anything you want, they are passing a free path to citizenship program for law breakers. It is in fact an amnesty package.
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
BAR BAR 2 said:
With all of the illegals we have here now that are sending their paychecks back to Mexico, we are in one way already supporting Mexico. Wouldn't you agree OT?

Mexico's Second Largest Source of Income

Mexico is very motivated to export its human capital to the USA. They even publish a how-to guide.

Money sent back to Mexico from those working in the United States reached a record high last year [2005], $20 billion, making remittances from migrants Mexico's second largest source of income, surpassed only by oil exports.


The race is on. The border crossing are up. Mexico is encouraging the northern migration urgency. The idiotic Congress, especially the Senate, is trying to offer an amnesty package.

Call it anything you want, they are passing a free path to citizenship program for law breakers. It is in fact an amnesty package.

I question only the oil export statement... I'd say it would be almost a tossup between the illegal drug trade and remitances from migrants- with oil and any other industry being after that....
 

hypocritexposer

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Mike said:
BAR BAR 2 said:
With all of the illegals we have here now that are sending their paychecks back to Mexico, we are in one way already supporting Mexico. Wouldn't you agree OT?

Mexico's Second Largest Source of Income

Mexico is very motivated to export its human capital to the USA. They even publish a how-to guide.

Money sent back to Mexico from those working in the United States reached a record high last year [2005], $20 billion, making remittances from migrants Mexico's second largest source of income, surpassed only by oil exports.


The race is on. The border crossing are up. Mexico is encouraging the northern migration urgency. The idiotic Congress, especially the Senate, is trying to offer an amnesty package.

Call it anything you want, they are passing a free path to citizenship program for law breakers. It is in fact an amnesty package.

and it costs $113 billion to support the illegals in the US.

90% of mexican oil exports are to the US, are they not?
 
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