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Lawsuit could force Kerry to come clean

Red Robin

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Econ you lose alot of credibility in other arguments with posts like you made here. It's just goofy talk that you don't even believe. You'll convince no one.
 

Econ101

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katrina said:
But trailiers are a start...... I'm like fh about the gift horse..... So the goverment gives me a house.... Okay it's not what I need or want, but it's shelter and a home... Untill I can get back on my feet. Then build what I need or want on my own with my own money.... Even if it's not what you want, when something is given to you, you make do till you can do what you want to do....... The goverment shouldn't have to build to what I want for a house..... That's why you have insurance. If you can't get insurance where you live, don't live there if you can't afford to rebuild on your own....

So again we are assessing blame on people who had no part in the decision to purchase trailers for the govt. program that didn't work just because they said "no thanks".

You people need better reasoning skills.
 

Econ101

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katrina said:
Econ...... You need better manners :wink:

Katrina, even I can succomb to silly arguments sometimes and I hope when I do, and even if I am joking about it, you will be able to put your own logic above any respect you have for me and argue it out.

I seem to be the only one respecting those in New Orleans in this argument. I have a great uncle who is a doctor in Baton Rouge and he didn't use a trailer because he had BETTER CHOICES. When the govt. makes the choice for you, you do not get the opportunity to make better choices. I am not going to get on a bandwagon to try to damage people who have just been through a hurricane just to win points on people who don't even live near the coast.

There were a lot of people in New Orleans who are using the opportunity now to get out of there and there are a lot of people who are abusing this "helping hand". In this case, the "helping hand" of the govt.'s decision cost taxpayers hundreds of millions and those who made those decisions is haste without thinking should get the blame, not the people in New Orleans.
 

Frankk

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Don't we tax payers buy new homes for the folks with ocean front property when the beach becomes erroded from under them. John Stoscel has one and said thanks for the gift. You think he would except a trailer instead?
 
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Anonymous

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Not sure if I understand your point either, Econ101. You seem to be advocating that the people (I like Mike's term better - natives) should be able to choose whether they want to live in a trailer or not. They chose not to, and now you're griping about that. Didn't you say they deserved a choice? :shock: Huhhh???

I agree that the trailers sitting at an airport in Arkansas is a huge waste of money, but what should the government have done? They catch hell for being unprepared, now you want to give them hell for being prepared. Did you think they should offer trailers on a build-to-order basis and have them ready to move into the next day? Give others a new brick home if that was their choice? Don't they deserve a choice? :shock: Huhhh???

Some people just find it easier to blame the government for everything instead of accepting personal responsibility. Others seem to think that it's okay not to assign personal repsonsibility to those that won't accept it. Instead just blame the government for everything wrong.

Econ101, maybe you should have given the "natives" another choice. You should have opened up Econ's home and let LaDerrick, DaMarcus, Shaquita and Kendricka and their combined total of 19 kids crash at yo crib until they found what they really wanted. Didn't you say they deserve a choice? :lol:
 

katrina

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What ever........ I was just brought up differant I guess. And my grandmother would be rolling over in her grave if someone gave me something(even thou I didn't need it) and I didn't say thank you and at least use it till it was respectable enough time, then do as I like. I can't believe this housing was shoved on to them... You certainly must have some paperwork to get the housing..... And if you had other means use them and don't bellyache cause ya did........ It must be a no win situation..
 

Econ101

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X said:
Not sure if I understand your point either, Econ101. You seem to be advocating that the people (I like Mike's term better - natives) should be able to choose whether they want to live in a trailer or not. They chose not to, and now you're griping about that. Didn't you say they deserved a choice? :shock: Huhhh???

Econ: I'm not griping about that.

I agree that the trailers sitting at an airport in Arkansas is a huge waste of money, but what should the government have done? They catch hell for being unprepared, now you want to give them hell for being prepared. Did you think they should offer trailers on a build-to-order basis and have them ready to move into the next day? Give others a new brick home if that was their choice? Don't they deserve a choice? :shock: Huhhh???

Econ: The choice to buy all those trailers was obviously the wrong one. The govt. made that choice and should be held accountable for that choice, no one else. The govt. could have done a better job pre hurricane to sort out insurance policies and make sure the policies did cover all the damage from a hurricane, not just excuses of why not after a hurricane.

Some people just find it easier to blame the government for everything instead of accepting personal responsibility. Others seem to think that it's okay not to assign personal repsonsibility to those that won't accept it. Instead just blame the government for everything wrong.

Econ: Sometimes when the govt. doesn't enforce the rules of the game, or do its part (levees, infrastructure, FEMA duties, general competence) the government needs to change. All critisizing needs to have that in mind. I am NOT in favor of having such a huge federal government with no oversight or accountability. Neither should you. It is our money, you know.

Econ101, maybe you should have given the "natives" another choice. You should have opened up Econ's home and let LaDerrick, DaMarcus, Shaquita and Kendricka and their combined total of 19 kids crash at yo crib until they found what they really wanted. Didn't you say they deserve a choice? :lol:

Econ: We have opened our home in times of need in the past and will do so in the future as the need arises. In our recent past we had a mother and two children living with us and our kids. It was a great experience. I would recomend it.
 

Steve

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Well Steve, WHEN were the trailers damaged? Are you privy to that info?

""Trailer manufacturers contacted,....... declined to comment on the issue because of the pending litigation" "


"the trailers were shipped to the site because of the litigation on the damages,..."

I would presume that since the maufacturer of the trailers is getting sued that they are somehow to "blame".....

As to if the damage was during manufactor, shipping of delivery, and when I do not know the exact time frame....but the original story,....and the biased attempt to blame ignored these facts.....

the trailers were damaged....

"Louisiana officials balked at installing them"

FEMA had no use for them. Nearly half, or about 10,000, of the $860 million worth of damaged units now sit at an airfield in Arkansas,"


So who cares when they were damaged? it still doesn't change the fact that the original story ignored these facts in an attempt to blame Bush.......
 

Econ101

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So are the taxpayers out 430 million or not?

I am sure GW is not to blame for this, unless it was one of his appointments who messed it up. Usually these lower level appointments are made by others. It does show the appointments/political patronage are problematic as far as competence is concerned.
 

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