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Left wing extremists/terrorists strike again

hypocritexposer

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These peoople that hate the Tea Party seem a little violent....


First a guy shoots his TV over Bristol Palin's fancy footwork. Now, another viewer is apparently taking America's favorite ballroom-dance extravaganza way too seriously.

Emergency responders in Los Angeles were called to the offices of 'Dancing with the Stars' late Friday to investigate a white powder that was reportedly contained in a piece of fan mail addressed to Sarah Palin's daughter, the 20-year-old Alaskan who has remained in competition with 'DWTS' partner Mark Ballos despite poorly judged performances.

The FBI told TMZ, "The L.A.P.D., L.A. City and FBI Hazardous Materials officials responded to a report of a threatening letter containing white powder."

The alarming incident resulted in a section of the studio being evacuated, according to a source.

ABC said in a statement, "Security and the Los Angeles Fire Department and Los Angeles Police Department were immediately notified....Measures were taken to secure the area and ensure the safety of personnel. Ultimately, we were advised by the LAFD that the substance was determined to be talcum powder."

Whether the scare will further mobilize Tea Party activists, suspected by many to be storming the 'DWTS' phone lines in support of the Palin progeny, remains to be seen.

After the elimination of Brandy and Maksim Chermovsky from the popular TV competition earlier this week, Bristol Palin is now rehearsing her best moves -- to the chagrin of producers, who reportedly never expected her to make it this far -- for the finals, broadcast live on Monday.

http://www.popeater.com/2010/11/20/white-powder-mailed-to-dancing-with-the-stars/
 

Bullhauler

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That was just Bristol's cocaine shipment.


Before I hear all the outrage if it had been about a liberal someone would have said the same thing and at least three of you would have given them a good back slap.
 

hypocritexposer

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Bullhauler said:
That was just Bristol's cocaine shipment.


Before I hear all the outrage if it had been about a liberal someone would have said the same thing and at least three of you would have given them a good back slap.


It is about a liberal. One that has obvious Palin Derangement Syndrome (PDS), and is a extremist/terrorist to boot.

Terrorists are liberal/fascist
 

Silver

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hypocritexposer said:
Terrorists are liberal/fascist

That's a bald faced lie hypo, and I wonder why you would try to cram that down our throats? Most reasonable people know that neither extreme wing has a lock on terrorism. What's you're agenda with this?
 

hypocritexposer

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Silver said:
hypocritexposer said:
Terrorists are liberal/fascist

That's a bald faced lie hypo, and I wonder why you would try to cram that down our throats? Most reasonable people know that neither extreme wing has a lock on terrorism. What's you're agenda with this?


Which Terrorists believe in personal liberty and freedom, as Conservatives do?

But I should have said "Most" modern day Terrorists are from the left side of the political spectrum.

You are correct
 
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Larrry said:
Doen't ya just shake your head at the peace loving left and all their violent tendencies

I always shake my head at fluoride sickened morons like Larry. you believe anything that your tube tells you....
 

hypocritexposer

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VIDEO: Michael Coren and Melanie Philips have a very candid talk about Liberalism, Political Correctness and Islam in the West

Related post are…


GOGGLE BOOK: United in Hate – The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror by Jamie Glazov

VIDEO: United in Hate – Liberals and Militant Islam by Jamie Glazov

VIDEO: United in Hate – The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror by Jamie Glazov

VIDEO: Islam and the Left’s Assault on Free Speech – Andrew McCarthy
Why do Liberals Support or Appease Islam?

But I feel this post is more important than the above because it not only identifies why Liberalism supports or appeases Islam, but shows contemporary examples and gives recommendations about what to do about it. I can safely say that if you have 45 minutes to watch this video today, you won’t regret it and if you don’t have time, bookmark this page and come back when you can. This is very enlightening stuff!!

http://thereligionofconquest.com/2010/11/19/video-michael-coren-and-melanie-philips-have-a-very-candid-talk-about-liberalism-pollitical-correctness-and-islam-in-the-west/
 

Silver

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hypocritexposer said:
Silver said:
hypocritexposer said:
Terrorists are liberal/fascist

That's a bald faced lie hypo, and I wonder why you would try to cram that down our throats? Most reasonable people know that neither extreme wing has a lock on terrorism. What's you're agenda with this?


Which Terrorists believe in personal liberty and freedom, as Conservatives do?

But I should have said "Most" modern day Terrorists are from the left side of the political spectrum.

You are correct

I think ( and I think you know this) that the battle our boys are fighting in Afghanistan is against folks who consider themselves extremely conservative, both politically and religiously. They would in fact have to move to the left to moderate themselves.
Folks on either extreme of the spectrum scare the stuffing out of me and make me keep my guard up.
 

hypocritexposer

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Silver said:
hypocritexposer said:
Silver said:
That's a bald faced lie hypo, and I wonder why you would try to cram that down our throats? Most reasonable people know that neither extreme wing has a lock on terrorism. What's you're agenda with this?


Which Terrorists believe in personal liberty and freedom, as Conservatives do?

But I should have said "Most" modern day Terrorists are from the left side of the political spectrum.

You are correct

I think ( and I think you know this) that the battle our boys are fighting in Afghanistan is against folks who consider themselves extremely conservative, both politically and religiously. They would in fact have to move to the left to moderate themselves.
Folks on either extreme of the spectrum scare the stuffing out of me and make me keep my guard up.


They may consider themselves "conservative", but are they?

Their religion and their politics are totalitarian/collectivist. the members of their community have limited personal, economic and political liberties. They are far left of conservative

Positive & Negative Liberties in Three Dimensions
http://www.friesian.com/quiz.htm


a different chart, same conclusion.
politicalspectrum-1.jpg



the misconception may come from the belief that Christian values are Conservative, and that may be so, but it wasn't like that in the Old Testament, when it was a totalitarian type religion. Christians have the personal freedom now to choose, and that's the difference.
 

Silver

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Looks like you've allowed yourself to be fooled hypo. One problem is that fancy little chart is only two dimensional. I think you realize that but are using it to further your cause, whatever that is.
Once again, beware either extreme. They're not so different. Those of you who pride yourselves one being extreme right are really so similar in ideology to the extreme left as to be difficult to differentiate.
 

hypocritexposer

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Silver said:
Looks like you've allowed yourself to be fooled hypo. One problem is that fancy little chart is only two dimensional. I think you realize that but are using it to further your cause, whatever that is.
Once again, beware either extreme. They're not so different. Those of you who pride yourselves one being extreme right are really so similar in ideology to the extreme left as to be difficult to differentiate.

Did you miss the 3 dimensional chart, I linked to?


Positive & Negative Liberties in Three Dimensions
http://www.friesian.com/quiz.htm
 

Silver

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hypocritexposer said:
Silver said:
Looks like you've allowed yourself to be fooled hypo. One problem is that fancy little chart is only two dimensional. I think you realize that but are using it to further your cause, whatever that is.
Once again, beware either extreme. They're not so different. Those of you who pride yourselves one being extreme right are really so similar in ideology to the extreme left as to be difficult to differentiate.

Did you miss the 3 dimensional chart, I linked to?


Positive & Negative Liberties in Three Dimensions
http://www.friesian.com/quiz.htm

Wouldn't load, but if it isn't any better than the one above then I'm not missing much :wink:
 

hypocritexposer

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Silver said:
hypocritexposer said:
Silver said:
Looks like you've allowed yourself to be fooled hypo. One problem is that fancy little chart is only two dimensional. I think you realize that but are using it to further your cause, whatever that is.
Once again, beware either extreme. They're not so different. Those of you who pride yourselves one being extreme right are really so similar in ideology to the extreme left as to be difficult to differentiate.

Did you miss the 3 dimensional chart, I linked to?


Positive & Negative Liberties in Three Dimensions
http://www.friesian.com/quiz.htm

Wouldn't load, but if it isn't any better than the one above then I'm not missing much :wink:



Then you must have also missed the reference I made to the 3 dimensions: personal, political, and economic?



3-p-quiz-1.gif



http://www.friesian.com/quiz.htm


I posted this over a year ago on Ranchers also.
 

Silver

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Right, and the long and the short of it is that you're trying to sell us on the premise that the Islamic extremists are liberal. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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Silver said:
Right, and the long and the short of it is that you're trying to sell us on the premise that the Islamic extremists are liberal. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Actually I corrected myself on the liberal point. I said left on the political spectrum. Islam is a political/religious ideology that restricts personal, political and economic liberties, through the word of a "leader" or Imam. (3 dimensions)


Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority. It is opposed to individualism and democracy. In politics, an authoritarian government is one in which political power is concentrated in a leader or leaders, typically unelected by the people, who possess exclusive, unaccountable, and arbitrary power

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism


So what kind of government Islam is proposing?


Democracy means the rule of people. This is unacceptable in Islam. The Quran is empathic that “to Allah belong all Dominion and power” (2.165, 35:10, 35:13, 64:1). The words “No judgment but God’s” (la hukm illa li-llah) is based on several Quranic verses (esp. 6.57; 12.40, 67 etc.) This power is vested on His regent known as Khalifat al-Allah.

The Khalifa cannot legislate. He can only interpret the Law given in the Quran and the sunnah and apply it. Naturally, since the Quran is not a clear book, this allows for a wide range of interpretations and this explains why there are so many Islamic schools of thoughts and sects. “But the bottom line is” says Taheri, “that no Islamic government can be democratic in the sense of allowing the common people equal shares in legislation.”

Common people are called awwam, and as the saying goes: al-awwam kal anaam! (People are like animals).



It is up to the “experts” of the Law to interpret the Sharia and let the awwam know how they should live their lives. This endows the “expert” ruler, all the power and allows him to act as the deputy of God on Earth. There can be no opposition to the ruler. You can’t oppose God by opposing his representative.

Ali Sina



totalitarian

centralized and dictatorial: relating to or operating a centralized government system in which a single party without opposition rules over political, economic, social, and cultural life
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861721051/totalitarian.html



Islam is on the opposite end of the spectrum of Individualism, whether you look at a 2 dimensional or 3 dimensional. Those that believe Islam is "right wing" are the ones that have been fooled.




and I'll correct myself again, it was not over a year ago that I posted the 3 dimensional chart. It was in March 2010.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=449526#449526
 

Silver

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Looks to me like they fit this model just fine. I think putting an 'ultra' in front of the 'conservative' would demonstrate the extreme nature of these people and help to differentiate these peoples beliefs from my own.


Conservatism is a political and social term from the Latin verb conservare meaning to save or preserve. As the name suggests it usually indicates support for tradition and traditional values though the meaning has changed in different countries and time periods. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-Conservative
 

hypocritexposer

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Seymour Martin Lipset wrote that liberals and conservatives "typically do not take alternative positions on issues of equality and freedom. Instead, each side appeals to one or the other core values, as liberals stress egalitarianism‘s primacy and the social injustice that flows from unfettered individualism, while conservatives enshrine individual freedom and the social need for mobility and achievement as values "endangered" by the collectivism inherent in liberal nostrums."

http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Conservatism


I'm curious Silver. Would you say Iran is closer to being communist, capitalist or fascist?
 

Silver

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hypocritexposer said:
Seymour Martin Lipset wrote that liberals and conservatives "typically do not take alternative positions on issues of equality and freedom. Instead, each side appeals to one or the other core values, as liberals stress egalitarianism‘s primacy and the social injustice that flows from unfettered individualism, while conservatives enshrine individual freedom and the social need for mobility and achievement as values "endangered" by the collectivism inherent in liberal nostrums."

http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Conservatism

Where is the egalitarianism in the Taliban manifesto? I'm not buying what your selling.
 

hypocritexposer

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Silver said:
hypocritexposer said:
Seymour Martin Lipset wrote that liberals and conservatives "typically do not take alternative positions on issues of equality and freedom. Instead, each side appeals to one or the other core values, as liberals stress egalitarianism‘s primacy and the social injustice that flows from unfettered individualism, while conservatives enshrine individual freedom and the social need for mobility and achievement as values "endangered" by the collectivism inherent in liberal nostrums."

http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Conservatism

Where is the egalitarianism in the Taliban manifesto? I'm not buying what your selling.

You are going to counter with gender equality, but I'll still think that Islam is not pluralistic and does not allow for individualism. Everyone is offered the same social, political, personal/religious rights. They may be minimal, but they are equal.



Are Hutterite colonies a left or right wing ideology/philosophy? They still practise traditional beliefs, which are collective in nature.
 
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