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Legit or No?

loomixguy

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Since we don't know his SSN, where he went to college, what grades he got, what country's passport he traveled under, and no legit BC has ever been found, it's very possible what this man is saying about "Barrick" is legit.....Quien Sabe?
 

jigs

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A guy near me once said, "if you want to know the truth about America" go to the European press and intelligence"

based on that, I think the story has legs
 

Steve

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Legit or No?


that Obama was born in Kenya in 1960.

on one of my flash drives I have a detailed "time-line"

with all the dates put in of the official stories and the "problems' with it.

but without digging to deep this runs into one problem right away.
and after graduating from high school in 1960, Dunham and her family moved to Honolulu. Dunham soon enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa. While attending a Russian language class, Dunham met Barack Obama, Sr., the school's first African student.

she would have graduated around may/June of 1960 in Washington state ( I believe that is fairly accepted and documented)



In 1959, Obama received a scholarship in economics through a program ,... The program offered education in the West to outstanding Kenyan students.

In 1959, Obama enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Manoa in Honolulu as the university's first African foreign student

starting in fall of 59.

so if they met in June.. the soonest she could have a baby is (march of 60)

but according to the story..
Dunham and her family moved to Honolulu. Dunham soon enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa. While attending a Russian language class

but they actually met in the fall class. Sept 60

earliest he could have been born June 61

so the British story is improbable by Stanley's timeline

but these timelines have moved over time already..



she showed up in Washington state with a baby in tow ..
Friends in Washington State recall her visiting with her month-old baby in 1961

accounts range from nursing newborn to a "large" baby, like seven month old.

so depending on who is credible.. it could have happened,.. but then the whole timeline is off and doesn't match any existing public documents.

and even the official story has problems.. so if they were planting all the documents. why so many contradictions..

like this one..


here is where the "official" story hits is first.. HUGE problem.


On August 4, 1961, at the age of 18, Dunham gave birth to her first child, Barack Obama II.

In August, 1961, she enrolled in a University of Washington extension course.

anntimeline2.jpg

http://www.howdypodna.com/anndunham.html

no one has ever disputed this.. they just moved the month to Sept when telling it.. saying she was in school in Sept 61 ,

but the class was 9-19-1961 to 12-12-1961

so she had to be in Washington state by at least if she was superwoman.. August 18th 1961

she had to register
say one day

but she rented and apartment.. (one day in hotel or with friends, and one day renting and moving in )
say two days

she flew over one day

so for the sake of keeping the timeline as narrow as possible

by the timeline presented she had to be in Washington by August 14th 1961

now correct me if I am wrong.. but back in the good ol days they didn't throw them out the next day..
Since 1965, the NHDS has collected data from U.S. nonfederal, short-stay hospitals

In 1970, the average length of stay for all hospital deliveries was 4.1 days (median: 4 days).

so she would have left the hospital on August 9th,

went home, packed,.. spent two years with alleged baby daddy,

ya alot of folk had a problem with that "story" :lol: :shock: :? :???: :roll: :lol:

and then flew out in say three days. say by August 14 1961



in early 1960's :roll: baby's, air-travel, registration. moving packing,..
with NO time to spare.

Barack ain't the magic one.. Stanley is.



But...

if she had pregnancy scare in High-school.. or soon after graduating
June 60,..

the soonest she could have a baby is (march of 60)

Dunham and Obama Sr. were married on the Hawaiian island of Maui on February 2, 1961

this is when she "dropped off" the map.. if I remember correctly..

no went to the wedding.. (probably baby daddy missed it as well.. ) :roll:

The Obama “mama” Timeline: 6 Lost Months Prior To Birth

The timeline for Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, reveals an approximately six-and-a-half month interval in which there is no documentation for her whereabouts, from Jan. 31, 1961, when she concluded the fall term at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, until Aug. 19, 1961, when the University of Washington at Seattle documents she was enrolled for extension courses.
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/10/27/the-obama-mama-timeline-6-lost-months-prior-to-birth/




now if you use the marriage date as the birth date.. there would be a May 60 conception date.. just before she graduated..

I tighter numbers before .. with things like finding a suitable baby sitter.. it's not like you could take a baby to class back in the early sixties. there goes my time line.
(in other words.. it would be near impossible for Barack to be Born in Hawaii on the date claimed..






know pregnancy scare in high-school.. had "Even though his daughter had received early acceptance at the University of Chicago"

strong willed ,.. yet Daddy drags her off to Hawaii.. sometime after graduation..

I do not have the day they left Washington State to go to Hawaii or their arrival date.. it they went by plane after selling everything or by boat...

this seems to be another gray area

I can't remember if I nailed that down before..

but then this conspiracy theory has been floating around for a few years now. :lol: :lol: http://ranchers.net/forum/about60248.html

http://ranchers.net/forum/about49699.html

all's I can say is dates don't work for Kenya.. and they don't work for the "official" birth date.



looks to me like conception in High-school.. family moves to Hawaii.. gets her in classes.. ships her out in January 60 to somewhere.. like the unwed mother's hospital Vancouver, were baby's were routinely put up for adoption. decided to piss daddy of for ruining her plans.. so she get to Washington and starts classes with baby... in August 61

oh did I mention she was "known" for telling wild stories?

we may never know the truth.. but if Barack wants to make a ton of money.. he could have the guy who wrote his last book to write a tell all book..


the dates we Know from actual records shows her drop off map in January 1961 till August 1961

if she is the mother..

the British story is off by a year.

if Obama senior is the father.. then it works.

1st problem is the two witness accounts (on hushed up )
of her having a nursing baby.

2nd problem is they tell how they get his DNA
but how do they get hers. and his fathers

or did they use siblings and does half siblings work ?
only has a half sisters / brothers.



to many contradictions to know who is right..

one thing I would say with confidence Obama's version is wrong.
 

hypocritexposer

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Doesn't really matter what the details are, but...if the official story is not accurate, and their was anything illegal going on with documentation, intelligence agencies from all over the world probably know the truth.

And as I mentioned way back in 2008, it opens the US, to blackmail and coercion.
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Doesn't really matter what the details are, but...if the official story is not accurate, and their was anything illegal going on with documentation, intelligence agencies from all over the world probably know the truth.

And as I mentioned way back in 2008, it opens the US, to blackmail and coercion.

well that might explain why Obama can't seem to get a grasp of foreign policy. they just hand him a folder as they go into negotiations.. :shock:

and he get the hint.. :shock:
 

Steve

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One thing I did notice when I was just verifying a few dates.

actually two things..

one: ,.. there is alot more documents on the internet that I had not seen before.. I didn't bother to check many of them out.. but I would say you might be able to fill in a few more dates on the timeline..


an the second which is even more mind blowing .. to get the dates,..I could have just looked at past Ranchers.net posts..

I felt a bit dumb when one of the last dates I wanted to verify. resulted me finding the data right away..

that's because the first two links were to my old posts on here.. :dunce:
 

Steve

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ya know.. with all we have covered on here and all the different theorys..

we could probably write a book..

all we would have to do is each write a chapter on each one.. and if it was a bit to thin.. we could debunk each chapter at the end.. :lol:


A birthers' guide to the Obama nativity.. :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
One thing I did notice when I was just verifying a few dates.

actually two things..

one: ,.. there is alot more documents on the internet that I had not seen before.. I didn't bother to check many of them out.. but I would say you might be able to fill in a few more dates on the timeline..


an the second which is even more mind blowing .. to get the dates,..I could have just looked at past Ranchers.net posts..

I felt a bit dumb when one of the last dates I wanted to verify. resulted me finding the data right away..

that's because the first two links were to my old posts on here.. :dunce:

there are to many dates out there to verify anything, most have been distorted/misreported and fudged too many times

and, IMO, they wanted it that way. So the question then becomes...WHY?
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
One thing I did notice when I was just verifying a few dates.

actually two things..

one: ,.. there is alot more documents on the internet that I had not seen before.. I didn't bother to check many of them out.. but I would say you might be able to fill in a few more dates on the timeline..


an the second which is even more mind blowing .. to get the dates,..I could have just looked at past Ranchers.net posts..

I felt a bit dumb when one of the last dates I wanted to verify. resulted me finding the data right away..

that's because the first two links were to my old posts on here.. :dunce:

there are to many dates out there to verify anything, most have been distorted/misreported and fudged too many times

and, IMO, they wanted it that way. So the question then becomes...WHY?

this is a trick question isn't it?

if they had one storyline.. and it fell apart

such as Barack's book did.. (the two years Sr and wife #2 spent together in Hawaii.. raising the star child ) (fake girlfriend)

then they could just let you jump to the next plausible story..

there are several that fit..

all but the "official" one Barack wrote about.. it no longer is valid..

as a Conspiracy Theory they all get lumped into the birther category.. which they can obviously now frame and vilify..


which was discredited when the fake Kenyan certificate showed up..
 

iwannabeacowboy

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f36ZbzL-9Yo

Wonder by what percent of the population, birthers have increased since the progressive policies have started coming home to roost?
 

Steve

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Glen Beck can "educate" a person well and has the resources to extensively research a story

others can't match his talent or ability's in that forum

my bet is if he had the smoking gun so to speak on Barack.. so would we..

We know barack's story is a fabrication..

We know his mother was known for fabrications..

what we do not know is who his father really is

(and for that matter who his mother really is.. )

we do not know where he was born or when..

we don't know why or who gave him all the opportunities he was given nor where the funding came from..

take for instance him flying to Pakistan in the 80's

we know he went.. and some question on which passport. but there is one other question..

who paid fro his ticket?

he was a college student on an "alledged" scholarship who was failing out.. no job is ever mentioned

and for a man who likes to tell you of his struggles I am sure he would have mentioned working while going to school at occidental.

so who paid for his tickets?

to many questions about a dubious past for him to be elected president of the United States in my opinion.
 
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