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Let's give Obama credit for Pirate situation.

hypocritexposer

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I think we should give credit where credit is due. Obama was legally bound to give the okay for force, in a hostage situation.

So I will give him credit for staying within the law, and the SEALS credit for taking the appropriate action, when they recognized the imminent danger.

Who gets the credit for keeping the military well funded, and up to date? Gates? (Don't cut funding)

Obama's involvement in the decision to authorize lethal force was legally required, officials said, because it was a hostage situation, not combat, and unrelated to the already authorized U.S. effort against Al Qaeda and other terror groups, officials said.

“It’s not a combat operation, so the lawyers wanted to ensure this was done right," said a second defense official.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21156.html

The Media gets the credit for taking away recognition of the Captain's/Militray's role in all this and claiming it for their chosen one. Not sure why they would want to do this, haven't they already raised expectations a little too much (even CNN was saying the WH was backing away from taking too much credit)

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&hs=vQa&ei=tQ7kSfLZHqi-tAPnqvm2CQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=obama+passes+first+military+test&spell=1

And I'll give credit to this Terrorist spin doctor, for trying to make the Pirates the victims.

According to Somalis with knowledge of the discussions, the pirates, who at one time had demanded $2 million for Phillips's release, had grown desperate with their situation — adrift under a searing sun in waters infested with sharks, staring at two massive Navy ships armed with guided missiles, running low on fuel and having spent their ammunition.

A relative of one of the pirates, who said he spoke with the men by satellite phone at about 3 p.m. — four hours before the Navy opened fire — said they "were getting scared" and trying to persuade the Americans to let them go in return for the captain's release.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/65944.html
 

loomixguy

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Bammy may have given the OK to use force, but that is about as far as it goes.
It's called Situational Authority, and it even trickles down to the skipper of a Swift Boat. The Navy doesn't put tards in command of ships, many of which are nuclear capable. The SEAL's took the order to fire from the skipper of the Bainbridge, NOT Bammy or the FBI.
After the fact, I'm sure Bammy was on the "to notify" list.
Bammy ain't dumb....I'm sure he was reminded of Jimmy Carter and the Iranian hostage crisis, and how Carter's total ineffectiveness as a leader and CIC cost him the election with Reagan in 1980.
 

Mike

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kolanuraven said:
loomixguy said:
Bammy may have given the OK to use force, but that is about as far as it goes.
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You fool...he's the Commander in Chief.

The Navy asked Zer0 TWICE for the authority to use deadly force should a situation arise that would allow the recapture of the Captain from the pirates.......TWICE.

Obviously Zer0 never offered that authority to them before they were forced to ask.

Who's the fool here?????????

The re-taking of the Captain was not the brainchild of Zer0. He simply handed the Navy the authority to act in a manner the Navy thought best. :roll:
 

Steve

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overall when you look at how the events played out.. and at the end result, the captain and ship rescued unharmed, and the pirates with tier brains splattered about,.. it was handled well..

who gets credit, every one who participated deserves credit for making the right decisions,..

but the true heroes are the Seals who executed the orders with precision.. on what could only be described as a incredibly tough shot, let alone three shots simultaneously,... and they did it well.
 

Tam

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From what was said on the news Obama had a legal obligation to give the order he did. The decision was made for him by US written law. :wink:
 

Mike

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Tam said:
From what was said on the news Obama had a legal obligation to give the order he did. The decision was made for him by US written law. :wink:

Well good for him!!!!!!!!! At least for once we can say he followed the law. :lol:
 

aplusmnt

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Hate to take credit away from Obama, but I think it was me that solved this problem. Obama must be reading Ranchers. Saw were the Seals did as I suggested and counted down and 3 snipers shot at same time and killed all three Pirates at same time.

I knew I had what it takes to be a seal! Now if I could only learn to swim! :lol:
 

Bullhauler

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Larrry said:
Thought so.

And bullhailer goes down in flames


I was referring to following everyone around and only adding snarky comments. I guess you are too dense to get that though. I will add that I have never seen you post anything about being clubbed at birth though.
 

Larrry

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Looks like you do most of the following around and posting crap. But then you are a lib so it's ok I guess.

So if you are the snarky police why didn't you say anything about this snarky comment.
Hopefully you would be clubbed in infancy
 

hopalong

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Larrry said:
Looks like you do most of the following around and posting crap. But then you are a lib so it's ok I guess.

So if you are the snarky police why didn't you say anything about this snarky comment.
Hopefully you would be clubbed in infancy

Don't let bullcrapper bother you he cannot tell the difference between you and I so he/she just posts in an attempt to intimidate, right Bullcrapper?just like you are going to kick my a$$ all over Aberdeen S.D. if I ever show up there? :roll: :roll:
Starting to sound just like nono with your baseless innuendos in an attempt to make your self sound like a MAN!
Go ahead spout off more and look even more like the fool you really are!!!!!
 

MsSage

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yall be nice to poor bullhauler I am sure he is not very busy right now and things are not looking up for him anytime soon.

Give obama credit hmmmmm yeap, he showed weavering and look what happened...3 more ships attacked :roll:

ooppsss sorry its 4 not 3

NATO spokeswoman Shona Lowe said the MV Sea Horse, a Lebanese-owned cargo ship, was attacked and captured Tuesday by pirates in three or four speedboats. She had no further information.

That hijacking came only hours after the Greek-managed MV Irene E.M. was seized in a rare overnight attack by pirates.

In addition, Somali pirates also hijacked two Egyptian fishing boats in the Gulf of Aden off Somalia's northern coast, which maritime officials said had a total of 36 crew. It was not exactly clear if those ships were hijacked Monday or Sunday.
 

hypocritexposer

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Thanks for the update on the 3 vessels MsSage.

In his statement the other day Obama: "we will take care of these situations as they arise"

Noah didn't build his ark after it started raining!

Note to Obama: these pirates hang out in a village named "Eyl", many of them have the big fancy houses, drive the shiny cars and have names much like your own!

Check with the Saudis. they've been there to interview said pirates (man made disaster creators)

You might even label them arrogant "right wing extremists", they seem to believe in Capitalism and carry guns! It could be said that they "cling to their guns and Religion"
 

Bullhauler

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hopalong said:
Larrry said:
Looks like you do most of the following around and posting crap. But then you are a lib so it's ok I guess.

So if you are the snarky police why didn't you say anything about this snarky comment.
Hopefully you would be clubbed in infancy

Don't let bullcrapper bother you he cannot tell the difference between you and I so he/she just posts in an attempt to intimidate, right Bullcrapper?just like you are going to kick my a$$ all over Aberdeen S.D. if I ever show up there? :roll: :roll:
Starting to sound just like nono with your baseless innuendos in an attempt to make your self sound like a MAN!
Go ahead spout off more and look even more like the fool you really are!!!!!

Gee I guess telling you what I think of you turns into kicking your a$$ in your little warped world. Come on post the pm or stfu already.
 
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