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Liberal Elitists?

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Anonymous

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Guess old X needs to enlist in some sensitivity recognition workshops. Just in this one thread, I've been accused of being mean, starting this thread just to denigrate people, and also accused of trying to pick a fight. All because someone doesn't agree with my thoughts or what I say. Or maybe it's just how I say it?

I really think this is a trend. I notice that some liberals are quick to get their feeling hurt when someone disagrees with them or calls them a liberal (that would piss me off, too.) But if you're not ashamed of yourself, why does it matter what somebody else thinks about you?

What if I'm offended by some of the comments in this thread? What is wrong with me starting a thread to share my feelings? Why is that construed as trying to pick a fight or denigrate someone? Maybe we need a committee of you whiners to monitor all posts? No new posts unless it meets the approval of the most sensitive whiner?

One of my favorite statements in this entire thread was the elitist and condescending one about some of us needing a damn political science class. ROTFLMAO! There's a sure-fire cure-all fer ya! Liberal academia is one of the biggest problems with this country, not the solution.

I'm not referring to anyone in particular, but sometimes it seems to me like some people are nothing but whiners. For any reason. And it's my belief that liberals exemplify that trait more often. Right or wrong, this thread reinforces that belief for me. Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't have said that? I'm sure that'll offend someone.

But, you know what? It's getting to the point that it's mighty damn hard to write anything without somebody being offended. And you want to know something else? I'll have to admit that I'm rapidly getting to the point where I don't care.
 

Liberty Belle

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Join the club, X. As President Truman once replied to some other perpetual whiners, "If you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen". The whole point of Political Bull is to share our opinions. Even disagreeable is welcome to share his/hers/its and even though I strongly disagree with them, I still defend their right to state them.
 

theHiredMansWife

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Since there seems to be a bit of confusion:


X,
Before you get all wrapped up in your self-righteousness (again), go back and look at your posts in this thread.
Now, honestly, what *was* you intention with this thread?

Because I think if you're honest with yourself you'll recognize someone just trying to sling mud as easily as anyone else can. And hoping to get others to join him, if he's lucky...

Expressing one's opinion is fine. But if it's done a manner that wouldn't even be allowed on a junior high debate team, it might be time to reasses the manner in which that opinion has been expressed.

And if you want to call that whining, be my guest. But I think most people know that if the Golden Rule should guide their words when talking to someone in person, it should also guide their words when talking to someone on a message board.

It shouldn't take a committe to get people to mind their manners in a conversation. It should be just something that they do because they're a grown-up.

From what I've read, most people on this board seem to be very nice folks. Which is why I find it so appalling when this kind of nastiness pops up. I think BBJ hit the nail on the head, they'd never talk to people like that in person. For some reason, people seem to forget that there are real, feeling people on the other side of the screen... :(
 

Soapweed

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Go listen awhile to SH on the Bull Session if you think people are impolite on Political Bull.

Back to the issue at hand. On a radio show yesterday, it was pointed out that "partisanship" at all levels of government is more pronounced now than ever. Ninety percent of votes go right down the party line. That is why my theory is to pick the party you most believe in, and support them to the fullest. The "Independents" (wishy-washy in Indian) think they hold the high road because they "vote for the person, not the party". This all sounds well and good, but it really doesn't accomplish anything.

Go for the Gusto--go GOP. :wink: :)

I'm also proud to say that the only Democrat whom I ever voted for, my good friend and neighbor who used to be a County Commissioner, has now seen the light and changed his party affiliation to Republican. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :D
 

Hanta Yo

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Hanta Yo said:
Soap, MLA, Jersey, good posts, and I agree with everything. I heard on the radio this morning, listening to Rush Limbaugh but Roger Hedgecock was on and he said (this is sooooo true and so eloquently put)

"Freedom is having to deal with being offended"

In other words, someone who is offended need not change things that interfere with someone else's freedom of speech. Most of us on Rancher's Net know the line between being "mean" and calling a spade a spade. If you heard sometimes what is said while working cows...especially if the day is NOT going well, your ears would be big time offended.

Just bringing this back up, X Those who are offended, deal with it.
 

theHiredMansWife

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This all sounds well and good, but it really doesn't accomplish anything.

What exactly is trying to be accomplished if voting for the best candidate isn't doing it?

And what is "partisanship" if not just an excuse to villify the other guy and marginalize his thoughts...?
 

Soapweed

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theHiredMansWife said:
This all sounds well and good, but it really doesn't accomplish anything.

What exactly is trying to be accomplished if voting for the best candidate isn't doing it?

And what is "partisanship" if not just an excuse to villify the other guy and marginalize his thoughts...?

Voting for the best candidate means voting for the best Republican. Not that Republicans don't screw things up, but you KNOW the Democrats will. :wink:
 

kolanuraven

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So....this means if you declare yourself Republican....you're forgiven of all past sins....get the Golden Ring....people will instantly love and admire you in all you Repbulican-ness and then you're ALWAYS RIGHT, not matter what the topic or decision to be made!!

Have all you gone brain dead??? The Republican party has had it's stinkers in politics in the past . Have you so easily forgot the NIXON years???? Wire-tapping....eavesdropping....break in's...etc.... Hmmmmmm....... sound familiar????


I'm not making a villan out of Nixon...as I think he did some pretty good things....he just got caught @ what others had gotten away with over the years.


But this " Hail the Republicans" biz is getting a bit over the top.
 

Soapweed

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kolanuraven said:
So....this means if you declare yourself Republican....you're forgiven of all past sins....get the Golden Ring....people will instantly love and admire you in all you Repbulican-ness and then you're ALWAYS RIGHT, not matter what the topic or decision to be made!!

Have all you gone brain dead??? The Republican party has had it's stinkers in politics in the past . Have you so easily forgot the NIXON years???? Wire-tapping....eavesdropping....break in's...etc.... Hmmmmmm....... sound familiar????


I'm not making a villan out of Nixon...as I think he did some pretty good things....he just got caught @ what others had gotten away with over the years.


But this " Hail the Republicans" biz is getting a bit over the top.

Ahem.......I'll say it again, and this time I'll leave the little winky thing off so you will know I'm serious.

"Voting for the best candidate means voting for the best Republican. Not that Republicans don't screw things up, but you KNOW the Democrats will."

There is more truth than fiction in what I just said. (Wish there was a 'thingy' showing me shaking my Pointfinger at you.) :wink:
 

theHiredMansWife

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An interesting read on what people really think of partisanship:

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=572

particularly note Table 8:
"Do you think we do or do not need more elected politicians who will vote independently, rather than vote on party lines?"

79% of Republicans, 87% of Democrats and 94% of Independants want their elected politicians to vote independantly.
 

theHiredMansWife

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BTW, it's obvious partisanship doesn't hold much water when you look at the current threads on RFID, R-Calf, etc. There are a lot of conservatives who don't seem to see eye to eye... :wink:
 

Soapweed

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theHiredMansWife said:
BTW, it's obvious partisanship doesn't hold much water when you look at the current threads on RFID, R-Calf, etc. There are a lot of conservatives who don't seem to see eye to eye... :wink:

They might just be pseudo-conservatives. :???: :wink:
 

Red Robin

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Soapweed said:
theHiredMansWife said:
BTW, it's obvious partisanship doesn't hold much water when you look at the current threads on RFID, R-Calf, etc. There are a lot of conservatives who don't seem to see eye to eye... :wink:

They might just be pseudo-conservatives. :???: :wink:
By reading here, they could just be liberals calling themselves conservative.
 
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Anonymous

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theHiredMansWife said:
Since there seems to be a bit of confusion:

X,
Before you get all wrapped up in your self-righteousness (again)......
Yes, I agree that there seems to be a bit of confusion. I'm self-righteous? LMAO

Pot? Kettle? Black? :lol:
 

mrj

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theHiredMansWife said:
Actually I'm a moderate with libertarian leanings. :)

Honestly...the way labels are mis-used around here, some of you guys need a poly-sci class. :wink:

Such labels seem to be twinked by those who do not like the "Liberal" one, IMO. Democrats who are clearly liberal call themselves "Moderates", and hardly admit there are any Liberal Democrats.

Several Republican Congressmen who call themselves "Moderates" are far to the Liberal side of many Democrats, judging by their stand on some issues. And Democrats call the "moderate" Republicans "Conservatives".

Interesting, too, is that there are extremely few,if any, true Conservatives in the Democrat party any more. All been squeezed out, it appears.

Such twisting of meanings and political beliefs is probably with a goal of confusing voters anyway.

MRJ
 

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