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Libya: The REAL October Surprise

hypocritexposer

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Libya: The REAL October Surprise

Tiffany Gabbay


Every presidential election cycle, Americans of all walks and political affiliations eagerly anticipate an “October surprise” — that one bombshell revelation made public roughly two weeks before voters head to the polling stations to cast their ballots — that will effectively tar and feather one candidate so thoroughly his or her chances at claiming the presidency become null and void.

Campaign strategists like David Axelrod have perfected the art of unearthing these “skeletons” on rival political candidates, and in some instances, even conjure them out of thin air for this very purpose. Case in point is attorney and Obama-supporter Gloria Allred’s newly acquired preoccupation with Mitt Romney as she scrambles furiously to uncover any shred of “evidence” that might prove his “unsavory character” right before the November election. While the Romney camp could follow suit and in turn start digging in the dirt to discredit Obama, it doesn’t need to.

It has Libya.

The attack on our diplomatic outpost in Benghazi that left Ambassador Christopher Stevens, two Navy SEALs and an additional civil servant dead has soured quickly from foreign policy debacle to an all-out scandal from which the president may not recover — nor should he. When viewed in its proper context, Allred’s October surprise, which rings more like something found in an episode of the Real House Wives of New Jersey, is an insult to the fallen Americans in Benghazi and their families.

The facts as they now stand reveal that not only did Obama know from day one that the Benghazi breach was an act of terror waged by pro-al Qaeda militants, but that he likely watched the carnage unfold via cameras fed live into the Situation Room from a predator drone hovering above the consulate at the time of the attack.
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How, really, could a decades-old testimony during a divorce proceeding compare to the gravitas of a U.S. president with American blood on his hands? How could the fodder of tabloids distract attention away from an American president who repeatedly lied to the American public to cover up either his ineptitude, or worse, the fact that he knew precisely who attacked our consulate in Benghazi because they were the very pro-al Qaeda rebels his administration had been arming all along?

Those I have spoken to including former CIA officer Clare Lopez and Middle East experts Steve Coughlin and Andy McCarthy are all acutely aware that Ambassador Stevens may have indeed been the pointman in yet another U.S.-led gun running scheme. From what can be pieced together thus far, the Muslim Brotherhood and its proxy, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) leader Abdulhakim Belhadj, were advising the U.S. on which rebel-factions in Libya and later, in Syria, should receive our arms. Those rebel factions, by the way, comprise members of al Qaeda, which stands to reason given that bin Laden’s alma matter is in fact Muslim Brotherhood progeny.

Questions, of course, abound. Why would Obama turn on Muammar Ghadafi, who had abandoned his nuclear and biological weapons program in compliance with U.S. demands and with whom he had been working specifically to tamp down the very al Qaeda insurgents who were spreading through Libya like a cancer?

Why would rebels kill the man who was supplying them with weapons? Why would these al Qaeda rebels turn on the very country that was aiding them? Moreover, why were we aiding them in the first place?

The answer is likely a rancid stew of flawed ideology on the part of administration officials coupled with the misguided belief that if America simply helps those who hate us, those who hate us will somehow hate us less — or at least enough not to seek our outright destruction. Time and again, we have been proven wrong, as was made evident after Jimmy Carter aided the Mujahideen (and a young Osama bin Laden) in Afghanistan against the Soviets.

It would behove elected officials to heed the fable about the viper and the farmer:

A farmer, trekking home through the woods one blustery winter day, stumbles upon a snake, near-death, half-frozen from the cold. The snake implores the farmer to take him into the warmth of his cabin so he might be given another chance at life. The farmer, at first skeptical of trusting a viper, disregards his better judgement and decides that all things great and small, good and evil, deserve an act of kindness. With that, he bundles the snake deep into the coziness of his coat and makes his way home. Within moments, the farmer feels a sharp pain at his side. Ripping open his coat, he sees blood has been drawn and feels the venom begin to course through his bloodstream. “Why did you bite me?” asked the farmer. “I was trying to help you.”

“Silly farmer,” said the snake. “You knew who I was.”

One thing is certain, if Obama was in fact fashioned in his father’s anti-colonialist image, aiding Islamists to retake the Maghreb while expunging the region of all Western-influence, might make sense.

Despite the deeply flawed unofficial U.S. policy of aiding “non-violent” Islamists — an oxymoron if ever there was one – the Left conveniently forgets that jihadists do what jihadists do — manipulate Americans to get what they want, then kill in the name of God as they work to implement a global caliphate based on sharia law. Ambassador Stevens learned this the hard way after he outlived his usefulness, and, like any other infidel, was snuffed out by the very savages he attempted to champion.

I was asked earlier today if it would not have been better for the president to simply have come out immediately following the terror attack this past September 11 and admit to al Qaeda’s involvement. The issue for Obama, however, would be that by doing so, he would also have to admit that his policy of pandering to America’s enemies has been the failure common sense always indicated it would be. Taking ownership of Benghazi would mean that Obama could no loner continue to sell the bill of goods that he cut off the head of the al Qaeda snake when he “single-handedly” smote bin Laden as he skulked in an Abbottabad compound. Nor would the president be able to peddle the lie that the war on terror is over.

Liberals now who dane mention Allred’s juicy October surprise would be well advised to fear the Pandora’s Box they are opening. Benghazi is Obama’s Iran-Contra, Watergate, Whitewater, and Fast and Furious all rolled into one. And while a contingent of the U.S. may still have an appetite for reality television, there is no place for it in a U.S. presidential race, especially one that comes on the heels of American-lives lost, and lost so senselessly.
 

Traveler

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Will probably catch hell for this, but it almost seems like the administration wanted something to happen to Ambassador Stevens. Something doesn't smell right.
 

Tam

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Benghazigate: We Know Now Who Gave the Order Not to Protect the Consulate

October 26, 2012 By Daniel Greenfield


Charles Woods, the father of Tyrone Woods, said in an interview, “And apparently even the State Department had a live stream and was aware of their calls for help. This was my son, he wasn’t even there. He was at a safe house about a mile away. He got the distress call. He heard them crying for help. That’s why he and Glenn risked their lives to go that extra mile just to take care of the situation. And I’m sure that she wasn’t the only one that received that distress call: “Come save our lives.”

When I heard that there’s a very good chance that the White House as well as other members of the military knew what was going on, and obviously someone had to say, “Don’t go rescue them.” Because every person in the military, their first response is, “We’re going to go rescue them.” We need to find out who it was that gave that command.”



So who gave that command?


Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that three urgent requests from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack nearly seven hours later were denied by officials in the CIA chain of command — who also told the CIA operators to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were part of a small team who were at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When they heard the shots fired, they radioed to inform their higher-ups to tell them what they were hearing. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. An hour later, they called again to headquarters and were again told to “stand down.”

Woods, Doherty and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the Consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The quick reaction force from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the Consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

Now we know who is taking responsibility for denying support to the consulate and the safe house.

The photo, which is the official one put out by DOD, from the press conference held by Panetta and General Dempsey is horribly eloquent in terms of body language.



Defense Secretary Leon Panetta defended the failure to go in by claiming that the issue was a lack of reliable intel, despite the fact that they had multiple distress calls and a drone overhead.

Blaming a lack of reliable intel is fine if you want to pull away from intervening in Syria, but not when a US diplomatic facility and its personnel are under sustained attack. And how much intel was really needed to send two jets to buzz the area and possibly scare off some of the attackers, who would not have posed any threat to the aircraft?


Although forces were on alert and ready to launch an operation if needed, the US military commander for Africa, General Carter Ham, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, and Panetta all decided against any intervention as they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi, he said.

So the buck has been passed to Panetta and Dempsey and Ham. Dempsey is a soulless administration toady and Ham is deeply invested in Libya. Panetta is a Clintonite who is completely expendable, especially if the charges get pinned to Hillary. But Panetta still seems filled with self-loathing and Dempsey looks disgusted with him.

Not doing something because there is no intel is a common excuse in these circles when they don’t want to do something. Just as with Iran, there would never have been enough intel.

And how much intel was needed really? Benghazi had an extended profile and was the cause of the entire Libyan war. The consulate had an extensive intelligence apparatus and the declassified cables we’ve seen are a fraction of the actual classified cables that would have been at Panetta, Dempsey and Ham’s disposal.

They knew about the Islamist militias and had descriptions of their armament from the RSO’s reports. They didn’t know the exact number of attackers or every single possible detail, but you can never really know everything before going in.


“There’s a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told a news conference.

But there were already forces in harm’s way, who were trying to provide some real time intel from their point of view. What Panetta means is that the decision was made not to send aid to them, and it wasn’t about risking more lives, but about the politics of intervening in Libya and offending the Libyans. It was done for the same reason that US soldiers have at times been abandoned without air support in Afghanistan.

“I feel confident that our forces were alert and responsive to what was a very fluid situation,” General Dempsey said, which is one of those strange statements that leaders issue after a complete screw up.

The full transcript of the conference was fairly well hidden on the site, but turned up here, it shows the full exchanges.


Q: Can I follow up on that? One of the reasons we’ve heard that there wasn’t a more robust response right away is that there wasn’t a clear intelligence picture over Benghazi, to give you the idea of where to put what forces.

But when there was, in fact, a drone over the CIA annex and there were intelligence officials fighting inside the annex, I guess the big question is, with those two combined assets, why there wasn’t a clear intelligence picture that would have given you what you needed to make some moves, for instance, flying, you know, F-16s over the area to disperse fighters or — or dropping more special forces in.

SEC. PANETTA: You know, let me — let me speak to that, because I’m sure there’s going to be — there’s a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here.

We — we quickly responded, as General Dempsey said, in terms of deploying forces to the region. We had FAST platoons in the region. We had ships that we had deployed off of Libya. And we were prepared to respond to any contingency and certainly had forces in place to do that.

But — but the basic principle here — basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place. And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, General Ham, General Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.
Q: So the drone, then, and the forces inside the annex weren’t giving enough of a clear picture is what you’re saying.

SEC. PANETTA: This — this happened within a few hours and it was really over before, you know, we had the opportunity to really know what was happening.

They requested to be allowed to go in and help but were told to stand down. :mad: The fire fight lasted 7 hours and fighter jets were only a couple hours away. :mad: Panetta and the rest need to resign over the reaction to the attack, Hillary needs to resign due to lack of requested Security and Obama needs to resign as he appointed these incompetent people that are in charge of US Security. :mad: :mad: :mad:

If voters support this Administration God help them and their souls as they NEED IT. :mad:
 

ranch hand

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The plot thickens.....someone better start telling the truth!

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ordered additional security for the U.S. mission in Benghazi ahead of the terrorist attack but the orders were never carried out, according to “legal counsel” to Clinton who spoke to best-selling author Ed Klein. Those same sources also say former President Bill Clinton has been “urging” his wife to release official State Department documents that prove she called for additional security at the compound in Libya, which would almost certainly result in President Obama losing the election.

From Conservative Daily News:

Today we learn from sources  that not only did Hillary ask for added security, and was denied, but her closest advisers strongly suggested she seek legal counsel just days after the attack.  Why?  Why did “they” deny Hillary’s requests for added security to Benghazi, and  why is this a situation in which a Secretary of State would need personal legal counsel?  Could the Benghazi fallout, go beyond what a Public Relations firm can handle?  I’d say YES.  Could this be a criminal act, negligence,  dereliction of duty, which resulted in murder?  I’d  say YES.  And I’d say that Hillary is telling the truth as the “source” of these latest developments come straight from her “legal counsel”.   Hillary did prior to September 11th, 2012 order added security for Benghazi, and those requests were denied—but by who?
 

gmacbeef

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Traveler said:
Will probably catch hell for this, but it almost seems like the administration wanted something to happen to Ambassador Stevens. Something doesn't smell right.


Not sure if they wanted them to die, But you can bet you ass that Obama doesn't care....He flew to Nevada for a FUNDRAISER THE NEXT MORNING. :???:
 
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