lightninboy said:I haven't researched 9/11 thoroughly, but I'll say "Missile." That seems to be the consensus among the best truthers I have come across.
And you don't go by the consensus of the mainstream media and the mainstream politicians?Whitewing said:Consensus among the best truthers?
What a truther is going to say IS a form of research, isn't it?Whitewing said:So, if I understand what you're saying, even before you get started with any research, you automatically put more weight in what a "truther" is going to say?
Logically the best truthers are the most scholarly and active truthers.Whitewing said:And I notice you use the phrase best truther. Would that imply that there are degrees to the truth?
Whitewing said:Let's just say I've read everything you and Shamu read and more, much more, including what the MSM has to say. They are often wrong, especially when trying to report live.
I also have learned to separate my opinions from what are clearly facts. The missle in the Pentagon bs is a perfect example of one expressing his opinon as fact in the face of all evidence to the contrary.
But I digress.
My original point was that I believe that when one automatically gives higher value to sources of information that are always slanted towards conspiracy angles, then one gives up objectivity.
No one here disliked Bill Clinton more than I. But for the life of me, I could never buy into the numerous conspiracy theories floated about him. Having said that, I'm sure you and asswipe lapped that stuff up.
9/11 was a false flag event...mossad carried out a huge amount of the job. no muslims were involved at all.
hypocritexposer said:9/11 was a false flag event...mossad carried out a huge amount of the job. no muslims were involved at all.
I've you heard you say this before, and your reasoning is that Mossad had advanced warning and video taped the event.
I also heard Alex Jones say that he was warning about 911 for months before it happened. He even mentioned the WTC.
Using the same reasoning as with the "Mossad agents" that were arrested for videoing the event......
....how involved was Alex Jones in 911?
:shock:
Whitewing said:So Shamu, where's the plane that didn't hit the Pentagon? Splain me that one.
shaumei said:Whitewing said:So Shamu, where's the plane that didn't hit the Pentagon? Splain me that one.
why don't you ask your commander and see what he has to say for himself. that was a military operation for sure...plane did a fly over with missile is what i have heard....big explosion and plane keeps on flying past...
Whitewing said:shaumei said:Whitewing said:So Shamu, where's the plane that didn't hit the Pentagon? Splain me that one.
why don't you ask your commander and see what he has to say for himself. that was a military operation for sure...plane did a fly over with missile is what i have heard....big explosion and plane keeps on flying past...
My commander says the plane flew into the Pentagon.
What's your commander say? Or have you lost touch with the mothership?
NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab is investigating a California armchair astronomer's claim that a white, fuzzy image on the red planet's surface might be evidence of life.
David Martines' YouTube video is heading for viral status after he uploaded a flyby of Google Earth's Mars explorer zooming in on a white, cylindrical object.
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His video was uploaded May 28, and has already been watched nearly 750,000 times.
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lightninboy said:I take it in stride when people swallow up what the mainstream media and mainstream politicians say.
2 Thessalonians 2:
10and with all the deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish, because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,
12that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
It's good to get the truth out, but I can't make anyone believe it.
lightninboy said:Once you are convinced of conspiracy theory, there's mostly nothing you can do about it.
A plane was detected again by Dulles controllers on radar screens as it approached Washington, turning and descending rapidly. Controllers initially thought this was a fighter plane, due to its high speed and maneuvering.[30] Reagan Airport controllers then asked a passing Air National Guard C-130 Hercules plane to identify and follow the aircraft. The pilot, Lt. Col. Steven O'Brien, told them it was a Boeing 757 or 767, and its silver fuselage meant it was probably an American Airlines jet. He had difficulty picking out the plane in the "East Coast haze", but then saw a "huge" fireball, and initially assumed it had hit the ground. Approaching the Pentagon, he saw the impact site on the building's west side and reported to Reagan control, "Looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon, sir".
In all, the plane took eight-tenths of a second to fully penetrate 310 feet (94 m) into the three outermost rings[39] and unleashed a fireball that rose 200 feet (61 m) above the building.
To me it is the work of God.hypocritexposer said:that depends. What is the motivation behind the/most conspiracy theory (ies)?
lightninboy said:To me it is the work of God.hypocritexposer said:that depends. What is the motivation behind the/most conspiracy theory (ies)?
What do you think it is?