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Tam

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How many of the Protestors that are at the Supreme Court for the Hobby Lobby suit today do you think actually have a stake in the case as in are employees of Hobby Lobby and how many are Democrat Activists looking to shut down another corporation with their crap demands?

If Hobby Lobby is willing to pay for all but a couple forms of birth control that actually kill the fetus after conception because that goes against their RELIGIOUS BELIEFS then why can't their female employees pay for those methods out of their own pockets?

According to Obama and his supporters if those same women want to keep their doctors and their Obamacare policies cause them to lose them, they can pay for them out of their own pockets so why not the methods of birth control that their employers don't want to pay for?

IS Hobby Lobby really limiting their female employees access to Birth Control because their health insurance policies don't cover the ones their employees want, if so then isn't Obama and the Dems limiting every ones access to doctors as the Obamacare insurance policies don't include ALL DOCTORS but just the one Obama wants to pay for?

ANd where in the Constitution does it say Women have a right to work for Hobby Lobby? If they want something that the owners find against their religious belief, do their employees not have the RIGHT to go work somewhere else?

I'm SO SICK of these Liberal Hypocrite Activists claiming corporations for limiting access to birth control and supporting Obama's limiting EVERYONE'S ACCESS TO THEIR DOCTORS.

And why is it that they all preach their healthcare is between them and their Doctor until the bill comes THEN IT IS EVEYONE'S BUSINESS. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

Mike

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In "Hobby Lobby vs. Sebelius", Buckwheat can't really lose........

If SCOTUS rules for Hobby Lobby, they'll just let the gov't pay for the contraceptives out of OUR pockets.

Looks as though these two cases heard today will be 5-4 either way depending on which way Kennedy goes.

Those two disgusting women Buckwheat appointed will always vote with the liberals..........................
 

Tam

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If Hobby Lobby wins and the tax payers have to pick up the tab for the couple of birth control methods the owners disagree to fund, will the tax payers also have to pick up the tab for the extra out of pocket people that want to keep their doctors have to pay?

If Hobby Lobby is limiting a females access to birth control then Obama is limiting every ones access to a doctor. :roll:
 

Tam

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Here is another question, if the government can force a company to do something they do not want to because it is part of a law like provide birth control then why is it Liberals can forbid people with legal state issued conceal and carry permits to carry their guns into their place of business? If Hobby Lobby is limiting females access to birth control aren't Liberal Gun Control activists business owners limiting gun owners Constitutional rights to bear arms?

Which one should have more power a woman's rights to birth control that is NOT a part of the US Constitution or a person right to bear arms that IS in the US Constitution?
 

kolanuraven

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I'm tired of the HIGHEST court in the land wasting time and my tax money on matters that should be between the 2 people having sex!

I think the ACA will be a good thing for this country...BUT....I do not see why in the world that they pay for birth control. Pay for cancer and the like....the BIG scary stuff. Besides, if you are that broke, birth control is free at county health clinics already.



And while I'm on this soapbox, I don't think they should be there for life either. That's " homesteading" on us tax payers.
 

littlejoe

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kolanuraven said:
I'm tired of the HIGHEST court in the land wasting time and my tax money on matters that should be between the 2 people having sex!

I think the ACA will be a good thing for this country...BUT....I do not see why in the world that they pay for birth control. Pay for cancer and the like....the BIG scary stuff. Besides, if you are that broke, birth control is free at county health clinics already.



And while I'm on this soapbox, I don't think they should be there for life either. That's " homesteading" on us tax payers.

in the interest of diversity, fairplay and apple pie---shouldn't that be "2 or more....?"
 

Big Muddy rancher

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littlejoe said:
kolanuraven said:
I'm tired of the HIGHEST court in the land wasting time and my tax money on matters that should be between the 2 people having sex!

I think the ACA will be a good thing for this country...BUT....I do not see why in the world that they pay for birth control. Pay for cancer and the like....the BIG scary stuff. Besides, if you are that broke, birth control is free at county health clinics already.



And while I'm on this soapbox, I don't think they should be there for life either. That's " homesteading" on us tax payers.

in the interest of diversity, fairplay and apple pie---shouldn't that be "2 or more....?"

You'd think being from Georgia she been on top of that. :lol: :lol:
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
littlejoe said:
kolanuraven said:
I'm tired of the HIGHEST court in the land wasting time and my tax money on matters that should be between the 2 people having sex!

I think the ACA will be a good thing for this country...BUT....I do not see why in the world that they pay for birth control. Pay for cancer and the like....the BIG scary stuff. Besides, if you are that broke, birth control is free at county health clinics already.



And while I'm on this soapbox, I don't think they should be there for life either. That's " homesteading" on us tax payers.

in the interest of diversity, fairplay and apple pie---shouldn't that be "2 or more....?"

You'd think being from Georgia she been on top of that. :lol: :lol:


Sounds like you boys aren't getting enough nookie!!!
 

Big Muddy rancher

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kolanuraven said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
littlejoe said:
in the interest of diversity, fairplay and apple pie---shouldn't that be "2 or more....?"

You'd think being from Georgia she been on top of that. :lol: :lol:


Sounds like you boys aren't getting enough nookie!!!

Nice of you to offer but I'm happily married. :D

Maybe little Joe will take you up and then he can stop hitting on my wife. :?
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
kolanuraven said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
You'd think being from Georgia she been on top of that. :lol: :lol:


Sounds like you boys aren't getting enough nookie!!!

Nice of you to offer but I'm happily married. :D

Maybe little Joe will take you up and then he can stop hitting on my wife. :?


She sounds like she's in full heat as it is with all the screeching she does.

Pretty over confident of you...where did you see an offer?
 

Tam

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
I'm tired of the HIGHEST court in the land wasting time and my tax money on matters that should be between the 2 people having sex!

I think the ACA will be a good thing for this country...BUT....I do not see why in the world that they pay for birth control. Pay for cancer and the like....the BIG scary stuff. Besides, if you are that broke, birth control is free at county health clinics already.



And while I'm on this soapbox, I don't think they should be there for life either. That's " homesteading" on us tax payers.

It really is funny how most Liberals think they want a single payer system as they think it is free and pays for everything. But in Canada free means very high taxes ON EVERYONE FOR EVERYTHING and it does not pay for everything like they want it to in the US. We pay out of pocket for lots of things and that includes prescription drugs including birth Control. If you want it, you pay for it, just like it should be. No Government or insurance company can afford to pay for everything and if forced to either they are going to go bankrupt or your Taxes/premiums are going to reflect the fact they are paying for every thing and doing their best not to go bankrupt. The Sandra Fluke's of the US with their "give me everything I want" demands are going to destroy the US financially as there is not enough money in all the Billionaires and Millionaires bank accounts to buy everything the sofa sitters want.

What it is going to come down to is what can you afford to pay for, life saving drugs for a cancer patient or birth control for a horny high school and college students, as you can't afford both no matter how many votes the Dems might get by promising a free for all healthcare system.
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Tam said:
kolanuraven said:
I'm tired of the HIGHEST court in the land wasting time and my tax money on matters that should be between the 2 people having sex!

I think the ACA will be a good thing for this country...BUT....I do not see why in the world that they pay for birth control. Pay for cancer and the like....the BIG scary stuff. Besides, if you are that broke, birth control is free at county health clinics already.



And while I'm on this soapbox, I don't think they should be there for life either. That's " homesteading" on us tax payers.

It really is funny how most Liberals think they want a single payer system as they think it is free and pays for everything. But in Canada free means very high taxes ON EVERYONE FOR EVERYTHING and it does not pay for everything like they want it to in the US. We pay out of pocket for lots of things and that includes prescription drugs including birth Control. If you want it, you pay for it, just like it should be. No Government or insurance company can afford to pay for everything and if forced to either they are going to go bankrupt or your Taxes/premiums are going to reflect the fact they are paying for every thing and doing their best not to go bankrupt. The Sandra Fluke's of the US with their "give me everything I want" demands are going to destroy the US financially as there is not enough money in all the Billionaires and Millionaires bank accounts to buy everything the sofa sitters want.

What it is going to come down to is what can you afford to pay for, life saving drugs for a cancer patient or birth control for a horny high school and college students, as you can't afford both no matter how many votes the Dems might get by promising a free for all healthcare system.


What makes you think we want you crappy system? we're trying to do better not repeat your mistakes.
 

Tam

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Tam said:
kolanuraven said:
I'm tired of the HIGHEST court in the land wasting time and my tax money on matters that should be between the 2 people having sex!

I think the ACA will be a good thing for this country...BUT....I do not see why in the world that they pay for birth control. Pay for cancer and the like....the BIG scary stuff. Besides, if you are that broke, birth control is free at county health clinics already.



And while I'm on this soapbox, I don't think they should be there for life either. That's " homesteading" on us tax payers.

It really is funny how most Liberals think they want a single payer system as they think it is free and pays for everything. But in Canada free means very high taxes ON EVERYONE FOR EVERYTHING and it does not pay for everything like they want it to in the US. We pay out of pocket for lots of things and that includes prescription drugs including birth Control. If you want it, you pay for it, just like it should be. No Government or insurance company can afford to pay for everything and if forced to either they are going to go bankrupt or your Taxes/premiums are going to reflect the fact they are paying for every thing and doing their best not to go bankrupt. The Sandra Fluke's of the US with their "give me everything I want" demands are going to destroy the US financially as there is not enough money in all the Billionaires and Millionaires bank accounts to buy everything the sofa sitters want.

What it is going to come down to is what can you afford to pay for, life saving drugs for a cancer patient or birth control for a horny high school and college students, as you can't afford both no matter how many votes the Dems might get by promising a free for all healthcare system.


What makes you think we want you crappy system? we're trying to do better not repeat your mistakes.

Kola you need to google LIBERALS WANT SINGLE PAYER? :roll: Every time you hear a leftwingnut liberal talk about healthcare they are b*tching about how they did not get Single Payer.

Canada like the UK have Single Payer, Government funded, care limited by what the governments can afford healthcare systems. And if you think you can do it any better than Canada and the UK you are sadly mistaken as you are years behind and your leaders have proven they don't learn from others mistakes. They jump in with both feet and repeat them THINKING THEY WILL NOT FALL INTO THE SAME SOCIALIST COUNTRY BANKRUPTING TRAP. :roll:

The US is too big to do anything better as they have to please all the, I want my Birth Control and I want it free and if I don't get it I'm going to take you all the way to the Supreme Court to stuff my want list down your throat, crowd. Can you afford to pay for every horny teenagers birth control Kola because that is what your liberal friends in the Obama Administration are arguing for in the courts? :wink:

BTW the US is behind in not only healthcare and it has cost your country Billions.

For example when Target was hacked all the talk down there was about how IF the US had chip protected cards that would not have happened. Well guess who has Chip Protected Cards and readers in every store Kola? :wink:

Let's go back further when your economy collapsed due to your big banks risky mortgage problems, care to know why ours did not? Yep we had safe guards in place to prevent that from happening here. But then we did not have a cocky lawyer/future leader of the country sueing our banks to force them to make risky mortgages to people that could not afford them either. :wink:

One more example care to guess who had safe guards in place to track our cattle back to where they were born if a reportable disease was ever found in our herds? YEP Canada again but don't feel bad I'm sure you will catch up someday when the Government MANDATES IT. :roll:

Yep you can do it BETTER why don't you get back to us on how that is going for you. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Tam

Well-known member
Kola says they don't want our crappy system but I was told by a Montana Rep that the Democrat Governor of Montana wants to mimic the Saskatchewan System in Montana. And guess who is thinking about giving Hillary a run for her money for President of the US. Yep that same Montana Governor. MR. B. S. Himself. :wink:
 

littlejoe

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
kolanuraven said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
You'd think being from Georgia she been on top of that. :lol: :lol:


Sounds like you boys aren't getting enough nookie!!!

Nice of you to offer but I'm happily married. :D

Maybe little Joe will take you up and then he can stop hitting on my wife. :?

BMR---I wasn't hittin' on her----but do note you felt impelled to speak up, did so, made your point in gentlemanly manner---all the best~~LJ
 
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