Sandman said:
Steve said:
aplusmnt said:
Ok I am following you now!
Not sure really what to call it rather they would be laws or commandments. But I was not sure if you was talking about all the laws that the Jews had to follow in there day to day life. Like during Abraham's time I think they lived in a Patriarch society or something like that then things change with Moses and again with Jesus.
In my mind I have it straight but not sure how to articulate it exactly! :wink: :lol:
often we try to follow the letter of GOD's law while forgetting the intent..
one could follow the "ritual laws in the Torah", and Paul is equally blunt in the book of Romans, where he notes that although Israel tried to create a Torah that would describe a law of righteousness, they were ultimately unsuccessful. As the prophets testified, they would not listen to God or learn God's righteousness, but kept trying to set up there own righteousness, with the result that they never learned God's way."
I'm not righteous, I'm not sure I understand everything in the bible even though I believe it in a literal interpretation of the Bible, if Noah had an ark.. I believe it.. I can't prove it but it must be so.. Same with the whale swallowing Jonah,.. if I have a question about the wording, I try to find the original meaning of the words in Hebrew, but even though I believe the literal interpretation of the Bible, I try not to forget the intent..
the intent its often to guide and return believers back to the faith in GOD,.. not drive them away..
Someone has to want to be driven away for it to happen. A person with resolve is what it takes to make it JESUS indicated this time and time again. People use excuses and think that is going to clear them on judgment day. When someone lives a life without GOD that is filled with Audultrey or homosexuality its because of their own lusts. They will not even be able to say on judgment day that the libs like on here said it was ok. Why the SCRIPTURE is very plain one can be allowed to believe a lie and still be dammed. We as Christians are told to stand firm against these imps of the devil and call it like it is, The Scripture is very plain to not back down to do so is to deny GOD AND HIS WORD.
One more thing if you or I can take the BIBLE literally when it comes to the Ark. One cannot lessen the Scriptures that tell us how to live how to refraim from darkness and how to stand for GOD and put the non belivers that lead people to hell by telling them all is well and the Christian Life is a anything goes life. THE ones on here and everywhere in society that say homosexuality and abortion is ok are tools and imps of the devil. God said in his word there is no middle ground take a stand as you will be persecuted for MY names sake in the last days. Look at the Islamic world demanding he CHRISTIANS AND JEWS TO DENY THE GOD OF THE BIBLE AND WORSHIP IN THE HEATHEN WAYS THEY DO.. These same cowards that advocate homosexuality and abortion of the unborn will bow to the jihaddist and polish their sandals and anything else they tell them to so. There is only one thing in common between the Christian and these folks neither one who stands strong in their faith promotes or accepts homosexuality or abortions.
So when the ones like lulu don and the others ridicule you just remember who they serve and it aint the GOD OF THE BIBLE. Remember it this way I am not passing judgment rather seeing their fruits GOD SAID YOU ARE EITHER FOR HIM OR AGAINST HIM. SO ONES LIKE THIS SHALL TURN OR BURN.
just a few comments on the sermon.. it's no longer,.
we.. according to your rules I am not a Christian.. even if I refrain from desires I don't have, I can't stand as rigid on the issue as you are so I'm guilty by your rules of not being with you.. thus I am no longer accepted as a Christian.
while I am not for homosexuality, and find some gay people annoying, I really don't like those who are prissy, or the flaming leather extremists, and I don't like most of the activists types either.. but then I don't like the same type of heterosexual people either.. but I wouldn't condemn then either..
and I really don't like the homosexuals who marry a woman and have children and leave them later because they want to go back to their gay lifestyle... but then I don't like it when a heterosexual does the same either.. I feel the family is to important to be discarded for sexual reasons.
so I would prefer if a person is
not heterosexual to not marry a heterosexual and have a family just so they can have children or keep up appearances... to me that is disgusting to use others and the homosexual person is living a lie.. (another sin)
now you have a dilemma ..I don't, because I have resolved it with my views.
When you have two hard choices the sin of homosexuality, or the sin of a lifelong lie, of which neither is practically acceptable in the Biblical law, which do you choose the person to go to hell for?
when a person chooses a life based on his lust for another of the same sex being not acceptable, no matter how much effort or desire he puts into it, he is still not doing it for the right reasons..
If he remains celebrate and dedicates his life to the priesthood, is he doing it out of Love for GOD and the biblical Law or out of a sense of shame... if it is the latter, he could be doomed,.
the same ritual law that he follows in an attempt to be righteous, will be the same law that condemns him.. as he would never be able to fulfill it..
in that sin, he didn't drag a wife into it, or children,,..
so if I have to decide which sin I condone.. the lifelong lie or homosexuality, I condone neither based on Biblical law.. and condemn neither based on Biblical law, it's not my judgment to do so.
but as a person, I prefer to not have children or families destroyed because of a lifelong lie..
just as I prefer teens not to get pregnant, and pray that they can provide a caring home if they do, and I don't condone abortion, nor condemn a child who had one..