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Mrs.Greg

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OK,I have no issue with that thread being locked but I have a HUGE issue with a person who's church protests funerals of soldiers being allowed to post here on ranchers.

I'd like to know...WHY lock a thread instead of getting rid of a poster that has already once been banned????
 

Mrs.Greg

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Sandman said:
Mrs.Greg said:
OK,I have no issue with that thread being locked but I have a HUGE issue with a person who's church protests funerals of soldiers being allowed to post here on ranchers.
I'd like to know...WHY lock a thread instead of getting rid of a poster that has already once been banned????

Who the crap you talking about being affiliated with a church that protests at funerals. What are you drinking up there. By the way do you have THE SAME disdain for your goverment jailing priests for preaching the BIBLE? :twisted:
Rev. Phelps...you may have some people on here fooled but not me,your a very sick man. I'm darn proud my country jailed priests for spreading hate its too bad your country won't do the same to you :D

OHHHH,and I'm assuming you think the priests that molested little boys also should be free...huh??????
 

alice

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Mrs.Greg said:
OK,I have no issue with that thread being locked but I have a HUGE issue with a person who's church protests funerals of soldiers being allowed to post here on ranchers.

I'd like to know...WHY lock a thread instead of getting rid of a poster that has already once been banned????

Mrs. Greg,

This poster, Sandman, will only come back as someone else. He/she is an internet troll. The best way to handle internet trolls is to ignore them. I know it's hard to do that, but if you don't give these vile creatures any feed back, they really have no one to continue to spew their venom at but themselves.

Sandman, etal, has pm'd me condemning me to hell on so many occasions. When I see his "alias", all I do anymore is delete it. Keeps my blood pressure within normal levels.

Mrs. Greg...most of us know where Jesus came from...most of us know that Jesus would not condemn Sandman...he would pity him. Jesus was kindness, and love, and compassion. AND, Jesus was CHRIST!

Alice
 

alice

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Sandman said:
alice said:
Mrs.Greg said:
OK,I have no issue with that thread being locked but I have a HUGE issue with a person who's church protests funerals of soldiers being allowed to post here on ranchers.

I'd like to know...WHY lock a thread instead of getting rid of a poster that has already once been banned????

Mrs. Greg,

This poster, Sandman, will only come back as someone else. He/she is an internet troll. The best way to handle internet trolls is to ignore them. I know it's hard to do that, but if you don't give these vile creatures any feed back, they really have no one to continue to spew their venom at but themselves.

Sandman, etal, has pm'd me condemning me to hell on so many occasions. When I see his "alias", all I do anymore is delete it. Keeps my blood pressure within normal levels.

Mrs. Greg...most of us know where Jesus came from...most of us know that Jesus would not condemn Sandman...he would pity him. Jesus was kindness, and love, and compassion. AND, Jesus was CHRIST!

Alice

Alice JESUS would tell you to not support what he is against and an abomination in GOD'S EYES HE WOULD THEN TELL YOU TO GO AND SIN NO MORE :!: ALICE GO AND SIN NO MORE TURN FROM YOUR PRO ABORTIONIST AND PRO HOMOSEXUAL WAYS. SURE HOPE THATS CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU. ..
:roll:
ONE MORE THING ALOCE TALK ABOUT TROLLS YOU ARE ONE TO CALL THE KETTLE BLACK. INDOCTRINATING CHILDREN INTRUSTED TO YOUR CARE IN THE DOCTRINES OF GODLESS PRO ABORTIONIST AND HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA WAYS YOU PROMOTE. AGAIN ALICE GO AND SIN NO MORE AND IF THAT MAKES YOUR BLOOD BOIL ITS BETTER THAN YOUR SOUL BOILING WHILE BURNING IN HELL :!:

I have no problem with ignorance...I do have a problem with stupidity. God is love...Jesus is love...

Now go play with your rattlesnakes.


Alice
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
alice said:
Sandman said:
alice said:
Mrs. Greg,

This poster, Sandman, will only come back as someone else. He/she is an internet troll. The best way to handle internet trolls is to ignore them. I know it's hard to do that, but if you don't give these vile creatures any feed back, they really have no one to continue to spew their venom at but themselves.

Sandman, etal, has pm'd me condemning me to hell on so many occasions. When I see his "alias", all I do anymore is delete it. Keeps my blood pressure within normal levels.

Mrs. Greg...most of us know where Jesus came from...most of us know that Jesus would not condemn Sandman...he would pity him. Jesus was kindness, and love, and compassion. AND, Jesus was CHRIST!

Alice

Alice JESUS would tell you to not support what he is against and an abomination in GOD'S EYES HE WOULD THEN TELL YOU TO GO AND SIN NO MORE :!: ALICE GO AND SIN NO MORE TURN FROM YOUR PRO ABORTIONIST AND PRO HOMOSEXUAL WAYS. SURE HOPE THATS CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU. ..
:roll:
ONE MORE THING ALOCE TALK ABOUT TROLLS YOU ARE ONE TO CALL THE KETTLE BLACK. INDOCTRINATING CHILDREN INTRUSTED TO YOUR CARE IN THE DOCTRINES OF GODLESS PRO ABORTIONIST AND HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA WAYS YOU PROMOTE. AGAIN ALICE GO AND SIN NO MORE AND IF THAT MAKES YOUR BLOOD BOIL ITS BETTER THAN YOUR SOUL BOILING WHILE BURNING IN HELL :!:

I have no problem with ignorance...I do have a problem with stupidity. God is love...Jesus is love...

Now go play with your rattlesnakes.


Alice

Maybe you should more understand what it means to say God is love. I believe you are over simplifying it to fit a broad meaning to be permissive of anything.

If all is good and God is love then why did he Strike down Uzzah dead for touching the Ark of the Covenant when it almost fell off the wagon on the way to Jerusalem. The poor man was just trying to save the Ark from hitting the ground when the wagon almost over turned. God is love did not save Uzzah????????? Uzzah was dead just because he reacted to save the Ark. The point was that no one was suppose to touch the Ark and even though he had good intentions Uzzah was dead because he touched it. God is love, but God is a demanding God and following his laws or at least doing all we can to follow his laws is something he demands.

(1 Chron 13:1-12) Account of Uzzah for those not familiar with it.
 

backhoeboogie

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reader (the Second) said:
Hey Aplus, I have a question. When I quote the Old Testament, you guys tell me it was superceded by the New Testament. As you know, Jesus brought a new message of forgiveness and love that contrasted with the wrathful sagas of the Old Testament. Which is it? Did the New Testament bring about a new order? If so, why are you quoting the Tanakh and Uzzah and the ark?

The new testament did not supercede the old testament. Here is you an example. Go read the sermon on the mound in the new testament. Jesus says to keep to all of God's commandments equally. The comandments are out of the old testament.
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
Hey Aplus, I have a question. When I quote the Old Testament, you guys tell me it was superceded by the New Testament. As you know, Jesus brought a new message of forgiveness and love that contrasted with the wrathful sagas of the Old Testament. Which is it? Did the New Testament bring about a new order? If so, why are you quoting the Tanakh and Uzzah and the ark?

Many things did change with the Sacrifice of Jesus, just like things changed with Moses. But you have to be able to discern what are The Old Laws for the Jews and what are principles and a History of God himself. Just because things changed in regards the every day activities of the Jews does not mean the Message that God laid out in the Old Testament is invalid.

My point with Uzzah was not to teach you about the fact that the Jews were not allowed to touch the Ark, it was to show you more or less the mind set of God himself. God is a loving God, but he is also a God who demands respect and obedience! If he tells us not to do something then we should do our best to obey him, not to look for some loophole.
 

backhoeboogie

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I'm talling ya. Go read the sermon on the mound in the new testament. Jesus says to keep to all of God's commandments equally. The comandments are out of the old testament.
 

aplusmnt

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backhoeboogie said:
I'm talling ya. Go read the sermon on the mound in the new testament. Jesus says to keep to all of God's commandments equally. The comandments are out of the old testament.

Not sure I am following you totally. Are you talking about the Ten Commandments or are you talking about all laws and rules that God laid out in the Old Testament?

Some things did change, there was different times and different rules in regards some specific things that his people had to do, some things were different under Abraham Convenant and were added to and changed under the covenant with Moses. Some laws changed with Jesus, otherwise we would have laws of Slaves, and Concubines and many other provisions that were part of Gods Laws during the time of the Old Testament.
 

backhoeboogie

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aplusmnt said:
backhoeboogie said:
I'm talling ya. Go read the sermon on the mound in the new testament. Jesus says to keep to all of God's commandments equally. The comandments are out of the old testament.

Not sure I am following you totally. Are you talking about the Ten Commandments or are you talking about all laws and rules that God laid out in the Old Testament?

Some things did change, there was different times and different rules in regards some specific things that his people had to do, some things were different under Abraham Convenant and were added to and changed under the covenant with Moses. Some laws changed with Jesus, otherwise we would have laws of Slaves, and Concubines and many other provisions that were part of Gods Laws during the time of the Old Testament.

Yes the Ten Commandments. I have read the Sermon On the Mound many times over in the versions of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I cannot tell you immediately if it is in all 4 of the versions. Somewhere he is asked to prioritize the commandments. He says to keep them all equally.

Yes there are changes too. Think about his, "In times before it has been said unto you, Thall shall not commit adultery. But I say unto you now, if you look upon a woman with lust in yoru heart you have committed adultery." That was a radical change and pretty much directed at the nobles who watch the dancing gals but did not interact with them.

His life in itself was change. I don't believe any one person in history has brought about any more change. He did not run around patting the "holy rollers" on the back but rather went to the people. He healed, led by example, etc only to be persecuted for it in the end. His power was overwhelmingly feared.
 

aplusmnt

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backhoeboogie said:
Yes the Ten Commandments. I have read the Sermon On the Mound many times over in the versions of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I cannot tell you immediately if it is in all 4 of the versions. Somewhere he is asked to prioritize the commandments. He says to keep them all equally.

Ok I am following you now!

Not sure really what to call it rather they would be laws or commandments. But I was not sure if you was talking about all the laws that the Jews had to follow in there day to day life. Like during Abraham's time I think they lived in a Patriarch society or something like that then things change with Moses and again with Jesus.

In my mind I have it straight but not sure how to articulate it exactly! :wink: :lol:
 

Steve

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aplusmnt said:
backhoeboogie said:
Yes the Ten Commandments. I have read the Sermon On the Mound many times over in the versions of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I cannot tell you immediately if it is in all 4 of the versions. Somewhere he is asked to prioritize the commandments. He says to keep them all equally.

Ok I am following you now!

Not sure really what to call it rather they would be laws or commandments. But I was not sure if you was talking about all the laws that the Jews had to follow in there day to day life. Like during Abraham's time I think they lived in a Patriarch society or something like that then things change with Moses and again with Jesus.

In my mind I have it straight but not sure how to articulate it exactly! :wink: :lol:

often we try to follow the letter of GOD's law while forgetting the intent..

one could follow the "ritual laws in the Torah", and Paul is equally blunt in the book of Romans, where he notes that although Israel tried to create a Torah that would describe a law of righteousness, they were ultimately unsuccessful. As the prophets testified, they would not listen to God or learn God's righteousness, but kept trying to set up there own righteousness, with the result that they never learned God's way."

I'm not righteous, I'm not sure I understand everything in the bible even though I believe it in a literal interpretation of the Bible, if Noah had an ark.. I believe it.. I can't prove it but it must be so.. Same with the whale swallowing Jonah,.. if I have a question about the wording, I try to find the original meaning of the words in Hebrew, but even though I believe the literal interpretation of the Bible, I try not to forget the intent..

the intent its often to guide and return believers back to the faith in GOD,.. not drive them away..
 

hypocritexposer

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Sandman, do you have someone else using your sign-in also.

The spelling and change from capitals to lower case did not happen in your last post. You have mentioned your wife in one of your posts, does she use the same "name"?
 

Steve

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Sandman said:
Steve said:
aplusmnt said:
Ok I am following you now!

Not sure really what to call it rather they would be laws or commandments. But I was not sure if you was talking about all the laws that the Jews had to follow in there day to day life. Like during Abraham's time I think they lived in a Patriarch society or something like that then things change with Moses and again with Jesus.

In my mind I have it straight but not sure how to articulate it exactly! :wink: :lol:

often we try to follow the letter of GOD's law while forgetting the intent..

one could follow the "ritual laws in the Torah", and Paul is equally blunt in the book of Romans, where he notes that although Israel tried to create a Torah that would describe a law of righteousness, they were ultimately unsuccessful. As the prophets testified, they would not listen to God or learn God's righteousness, but kept trying to set up there own righteousness, with the result that they never learned God's way."

I'm not righteous, I'm not sure I understand everything in the bible even though I believe it in a literal interpretation of the Bible, if Noah had an ark.. I believe it.. I can't prove it but it must be so.. Same with the whale swallowing Jonah,.. if I have a question about the wording, I try to find the original meaning of the words in Hebrew, but even though I believe the literal interpretation of the Bible, I try not to forget the intent..

the intent its often to guide and return believers back to the faith in GOD,.. not drive them away..

Someone has to want to be driven away for it to happen. A person with resolve is what it takes to make it JESUS indicated this time and time again. People use excuses and think that is going to clear them on judgment day. When someone lives a life without GOD that is filled with Audultrey or homosexuality its because of their own lusts. They will not even be able to say on judgment day that the libs like on here said it was ok. Why the SCRIPTURE is very plain one can be allowed to believe a lie and still be dammed. We as Christians are told to stand firm against these imps of the devil and call it like it is, The Scripture is very plain to not back down to do so is to deny GOD AND HIS WORD.

One more thing if you or I can take the BIBLE literally when it comes to the Ark. One cannot lessen the Scriptures that tell us how to live how to refraim from darkness and how to stand for GOD and put the non belivers that lead people to hell by telling them all is well and the Christian Life is a anything goes life. THE ones on here and everywhere in society that say homosexuality and abortion is ok are tools and imps of the devil. God said in his word there is no middle ground take a stand as you will be persecuted for MY names sake in the last days. Look at the Islamic world demanding he CHRISTIANS AND JEWS TO DENY THE GOD OF THE BIBLE AND WORSHIP IN THE HEATHEN WAYS THEY DO.. These same cowards that advocate homosexuality and abortion of the unborn will bow to the jihaddist and polish their sandals and anything else they tell them to so. There is only one thing in common between the Christian and these folks neither one who stands strong in their faith promotes or accepts homosexuality or abortions.

So when the ones like lulu don and the others ridicule you just remember who they serve and it aint the GOD OF THE BIBLE. Remember it this way I am not passing judgment rather seeing their fruits GOD SAID YOU ARE EITHER FOR HIM OR AGAINST HIM. SO ONES LIKE THIS SHALL TURN OR BURN.

just a few comments on the sermon.. it's no longer,. we.. according to your rules I am not a Christian.. even if I refrain from desires I don't have, I can't stand as rigid on the issue as you are so I'm guilty by your rules of not being with you.. thus I am no longer accepted as a Christian.

while I am not for homosexuality, and find some gay people annoying, I really don't like those who are prissy, or the flaming leather extremists, and I don't like most of the activists types either.. but then I don't like the same type of heterosexual people either.. but I wouldn't condemn then either..

and I really don't like the homosexuals who marry a woman and have children and leave them later because they want to go back to their gay lifestyle... but then I don't like it when a heterosexual does the same either.. I feel the family is to important to be discarded for sexual reasons.

so I would prefer if a person is not heterosexual to not marry a heterosexual and have a family just so they can have children or keep up appearances... to me that is disgusting to use others and the homosexual person is living a lie.. (another sin)

now you have a dilemma ..I don't, because I have resolved it with my views. When you have two hard choices the sin of homosexuality, or the sin of a lifelong lie, of which neither is practically acceptable in the Biblical law, which do you choose the person to go to hell for?

when a person chooses a life based on his lust for another of the same sex being not acceptable, no matter how much effort or desire he puts into it, he is still not doing it for the right reasons..

If he remains celebrate and dedicates his life to the priesthood, is he doing it out of Love for GOD and the biblical Law or out of a sense of shame... if it is the latter, he could be doomed,.

the same ritual law that he follows in an attempt to be righteous, will be the same law that condemns him.. as he would never be able to fulfill it..

in that sin, he didn't drag a wife into it, or children,,..

so if I have to decide which sin I condone.. the lifelong lie or homosexuality, I condone neither based on Biblical law.. and condemn neither based on Biblical law, it's not my judgment to do so.

but as a person, I prefer to not have children or families destroyed because of a lifelong lie..

just as I prefer teens not to get pregnant, and pray that they can provide a caring home if they do, and I don't condone abortion, nor condemn a child who had one..
 

backhoeboogie

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Steve said:
according to your rules I am not a Christian.. ..

Either you believe or you do not. Is the light switch on or off? That is your choice and you do not have to be accountable to any of us. Even if we are the fools casting the stones.
 
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