Faster horses said:Oh, and Lou Dobbs is one of OT's favorites!!!!! :shock:
reader (the Second) said:Sandhusker said:"have all spoken and certified that he was born in Hawaii. "
How can they have certified it when none of them have seen his birth certificate?
I know that the Head of the Department of Health certified that she had seen his birth certificate.
I believe the Governor (Lingle) did as well.
What does it matter? Your hero, Orly Taitz, declared that the birth certificate proves nothing :roll: :roll: If he showed it, he would still not be a natural born citizen. Why? Because Hawaiians born abroad can get a Hawaiian birth certificate so he has to prove that he was born in Hawaii. A birth certificate is not good enough for her.
A real logical thinker. He can't prove he wasn't born in Kenya. Therefore, he was born in Kenya.
It would be funny if it were not so sad.
Faster horses said:Before she can answer that question, Sandhusker, she has to
admit to herself he lied. She just cannot do that for whatever
reason. Must be tough being her.
Sandhusker said:reader (the Second) said:Sandhusker said:"have all spoken and certified that he was born in Hawaii. "
How can they have certified it when none of them have seen his birth certificate?
I know that the Head of the Department of Health certified that she had seen his birth certificate. Wrong, the Dept. of health stated they had one on file.
I believe the Governor (Lingle) did as well. It is sealed, the Governor could not have seen it.
What does it matter? Your hero, Orly Taitz, declared that the birth certificate proves nothing :roll: :roll: If he showed it, he would still not be a natural born citizen. Why? Because Hawaiians born abroad can get a Hawaiian birth certificate so he has to prove that he was born in Hawaii. A birth certificate is not good enough for her. If he showed it and was born in Hawaii, he could not be a natural Born Citizen, cause his father was not an American citizen.
A real logical thinker. He can't prove he wasn't born in Kenya. Therefore, he was born in Kenya.
It would be funny if it were not so sad.
Noooo, a Hawaiian born abroad could get a Certificate of Live Birth, which is exactly what Obama put on the net falsely claiming to be his birth certificate. Why do you think he lied, Reader? Why do you think Gibbs lied?
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
News Release
LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444
For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
"No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai'i.”
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For more information, contact:
Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Phone: (808) 586-4442
The bill's provisions are simple:
"To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
It also provides:
"Congress finds that under section 1 of article II of the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years."
The sponsors' goal is to have the bill become effective for the 2012 presidential election, and it now is pending in a committee of the U.S. House of Representatives.
It was introduced by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.
The newest additions are Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., and Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas.
They joined Reps. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn.; John Campbell, R-Calif.; John R. Carter, R-Texas; John Culberson, R-Texas; Bob Goodlatte, R-Va.; and Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas, in support of Posey's H.R. 1503 plan.
A spokesman for Blackburn said in Tennessee a 16-year-old has to document his or her birth to get a driver's license. Her constituents, the spokesman said, were losing faith in the system because of the absence of a requirement for the president to show evidence of his or her eligibility.
Besides the support that is growing in the U.S. House, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., says he's in favor of both state and federal demands that future presidential candidates have a formal procedure to document their qualifications.
"The bill requires any federal candidates' campaign committee filing with the Federal Election Commission to produce a copy of the candidate's birth certificate," Coburn wrote. "If the bill makes it to the Senate, I will likely support it."
reader (the Second) said:I posted that quote a page back.
I know you did, you also posted this a page back, "I know that the Head of the Department of Health certified that she had seen his birth certificate", which is not what was said.
It does not matter because there is no evidence on earth that you would accept. Wrong, if you bring evidence I will beleive it. Why not trying to bring some, instead of hearsay.
Anyone who saw it would be a liar. Republican officials who certify it is on record and that he was born in Hawaii are liars. Please name one person who has said they have seen the actual COLB.
The newspaper that had a birth announcement generated from Vital Statistics was a 1961 conspiracy so that BHO could run for president. did the birth announcement state the Hospital. Is it that hard to beleive that Stanley Dunham was in Kenya to visit Obama's father, had the baby early, and returned to Hawaii, is it possible?
It does not matter what we say or what anyone says.
Knock yourself out with this theory.
reader (the Second) said:I posted that quote a page back.
It does not matter because there is no evidence on earth that you would accept.
Anyone who saw it would be a liar. Republican officials who certify it is on record and that he was born in Hawaii are liars.
The newspaper that had a birth announcement generated from Vital Statistics was a 1961 conspiracy so that BHO could run for president.
It does not matter what we say or what anyone says.
Knock yourself out with this theory.
The newspaper announcement means nothing other than Obama was born. We know he was born, although some of you might think it is more likely that he was sent here from God. Momma Obama got home from Kenya, called the paper, and they put it in.