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M COOL NOW

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HAY MAKER

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The purpose of country-of-origin labeling (COOL) is to inform consumers about the origins of their food and to help U.S. producers in promoting their products.

COOL will also allow consumers to protect themselves from disease outbreaks, bio-terrorism, and other potential health hazards even if the government still allows imports.

In a Lou Dobbs poll, 98% said that the U.S. government should speed up the process of implementing COOL. Recent polls also found that 80 to 85% of consumers support mandatory labeling for meat, seafood, and produce.

COOL will help U.S. farmers, ranchers, and small to mid-sized food manufacturers by allowing them enhanced competition through product differentiation. Consumers' endorsement of COOL implementation implies that they prefer buying domestic goods. Labeling will increase demand for domestic products.

To be labeled as a U.S. product, the commodity must be born, raised (hatched) and processed in the U.S. Mixed products will be labeled with all their countries-of-origin.

COOL is not a new concept. Most imports (clothes, etc.) are labeled with their country of origin. Also, most of
the United States's major trading partners require COOL labeling of agricultural products.
COOL was passed in the 2002 Farm Bill and initially scheduled for implementation in September 2004 (it has since been repeatedly postponed by Congress). Since then the debate has been over whether to implement it as mandatory or voluntary. However, voluntary COOL has been available for several years and has had very low participation rates. Mandatory COOL is the only logical way to implement the program.

Montana has passed mandatory COOL (with an additional "Made in Montana" label), but it will not be implemented until September 2006.

On April 4, 2005, mandatory COOL was implemented for seafood. The seafood markets are still continuing business normally and are showing no signs of being negatively affected by COOL legislation. In fact, the costs have been far less than those projected before implementation.
 

rkaiser

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What you doing posting a new poll Haymaker when the last one you posted got punted out of the park.

Well old boy, I put one up for your COOL this time. I could really care less if you feel like wasting more of your producer dollars on a waste of time. It will be a real waste of time when Canadains finally wake up and offer your American retailers -

"Canadian Graded BSE Tested High Quality Bos Indicus Barley fed Beef".

Mcool will be a moot point and we won't be able to supply the demand, I guarantee it.
 

Hanta Yo

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I don't get it. R-Calfers are beating MCOOL to death. I've seen Canadian meats in the Supermarket marked "Product of Canada".

R-Calf doesn't want a National ID system...seems to me they are shooting at their own feet.....oh, I forgot, they already did :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
 

Sandhusker

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Hanta Yo said:
I don't get it. R-Calfers are beating MCOOL to death. I've seen Canadian meats in the Supermarket marked "Product of Canada".

R-Calf doesn't want a National ID system...seems to me they are shooting at their own feet.....oh, I forgot, they already did :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Why do we need a National ID?
 

RobertMac

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"Canadian Graded BSE Tested High Quality Bos Indicus Barley fed Beef".


Hey Randy, shouldn't that be Bos Taurus? Although I do know there are some good Indicus cross cattle up there!
 

Sandhusker

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RobertMac said:
"Canadian Graded BSE Tested High Quality Bos Indicus Barley fed Beef".


Hey Randy, shouldn't that be Bos Taurus? Although I do know there are some good Indicus cross cattle up there!

Bos Indicus is that long-eared humped stuff.
 

Bill

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Sandhusker said:
RobertMac said:
"Canadian Graded BSE Tested High Quality Bos Indicus Barley fed Beef".


Hey Randy, shouldn't that be Bos Taurus? Although I do know there are some good Indicus cross cattle up there!

Bos Indicus is that long-eared humped stuff.

Must be some kind of quality top of the line beef as Cool supporters want to ID it as product of the USA.
 

Hanta Yo

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Sandhusker said:
Hanta Yo said:
I don't get it. R-Calfers are beating MCOOL to death. I've seen Canadian meats in the Supermarket marked "Product of Canada".

R-Calf doesn't want a National ID system...seems to me they are shooting at their own feet.....oh, I forgot, they already did :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Why do we need a National ID?

I know you guys think a hot brand is enough. Unfortunately not every state has a brand law. Soooooo, just like the BSE cow found in the South, no traceback whatsoever. I'm looking this more as a traceback for disease control. It would also help export. Of course, R-Calf wants the good ole US of A to be isolationists so I guess I will quit arguing with you because I won't get anywhere.
End of discussion, sorry I brought it up in the first place.
 

rkaiser

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Dag nab it.

I screwed up . TAM write that down. Kaiser was wrong and admitted it.

Bos Taurus - not Bos Indicus

And I will apologize ahead of time for running down those wonderful flychaser off ers. Never ate any so I should not be so judgemental.
 
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Anonymous

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Sandcheska: "Why do we need a National ID?"

To enforce your flawed "M"COOL law. We don't need either but your stupid "M"COOL law will not be enforceable without an ID system but you can't think that far ahead.


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

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Hanta Yo said:
Sandhusker said:
Hanta Yo said:
I don't get it. R-Calfers are beating MCOOL to death. I've seen Canadian meats in the Supermarket marked "Product of Canada".

R-Calf doesn't want a National ID system...seems to me they are shooting at their own feet.....oh, I forgot, they already did :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Why do we need a National ID?

I know you guys think a hot brand is enough. Unfortunately not every state has a brand law. Soooooo, just like the BSE cow found in the South, no traceback whatsoever. I'm looking this more as a traceback for disease control. It would also help export. Of course, R-Calf wants the good ole US of A to be isolationists so I guess I will quit arguing with you because I won't get anywhere.
End of discussion, sorry I brought it up in the first place.

The states that do have brand laws can track those cattle. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the others catch up instead of making everybody do something that hasn't been proven, has no cost estimate, nobody knows who will run it, etc...?
 
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Anonymous

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Sandhusker said:
Hanta Yo said:
Sandhusker said:
Why do we need a National ID?

I know you guys think a hot brand is enough. Unfortunately not every state has a brand law. Soooooo, just like the BSE cow found in the South, no traceback whatsoever. I'm looking this more as a traceback for disease control. It would also help export. Of course, R-Calf wants the good ole US of A to be isolationists so I guess I will quit arguing with you because I won't get anywhere.
End of discussion, sorry I brought it up in the first place.

The states that do have brand laws can track those cattle. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the others catch up instead of making everybody do something that hasn't been proven, has no cost estimate, nobody knows who will run it, etc...?

Even USDA now admits the technology is not yet available to allow M-ID to operate at the speed of commerce without undo cost and hardship on the producers...

I agree with Sandhusker-- let the rest of the country pay their own way to come up with the standards and set up the infrastructure the brand states have had for years- then we can look at whether we need more....

And Hanta-- NCBA has pretty much been told they can't have the M-ID monopoly so you can quit supporting their old land grant college taught worship..... :roll: :wink: :lol:
 

mwj

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Sandhusker said:
Hanta Yo said:
Sandhusker said:
Why do we need a National ID?

I know you guys think a hot brand is enough. Unfortunately not every state has a brand law. Soooooo, just like the BSE cow found in the South, no traceback whatsoever. I'm looking this more as a traceback for disease control. It would also help export. Of course, R-Calf wants the good ole US of A to be isolationists so I guess I will quit arguing with you because I won't get anywhere.
End of discussion, sorry I brought it up in the first place.

The states that do have brand laws can track those cattle. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the others catch up instead of making everybody do something that hasn't been proven, has no cost estimate, nobody knows who will run it, etc...?


You had better scratch Montana off the list and check with OT since he said the other day that it is not fool proof :shock: He even argued with his friend Porker that the famous scoring system that Porker pushes will not do the job. He even used an almost bad word in his post that you may want to chek out. He may have to be put on the ''schmuck'' list :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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mwj said:
Sandhusker said:
Hanta Yo said:
I know you guys think a hot brand is enough. Unfortunately not every state has a brand law. Soooooo, just like the BSE cow found in the South, no traceback whatsoever. I'm looking this more as a traceback for disease control. It would also help export. Of course, R-Calf wants the good ole US of A to be isolationists so I guess I will quit arguing with you because I won't get anywhere.
End of discussion, sorry I brought it up in the first place.

The states that do have brand laws can track those cattle. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the others catch up instead of making everybody do something that hasn't been proven, has no cost estimate, nobody knows who will run it, etc...?


You had better scratch Montana off the list and check with OT since he said the other day that it is not fool proof :shock: He even argued with his friend Porker that the famous scoring system that Porker pushes will not do the job. He even used an almost bad word in his post that you may want to chek out. He may have to be put on the ''schmuck'' list :wink:

Sweetheart-- Name me something in this world that is perfect or absolute...

And now that I know you are a female living in a Chicago tenament area, I better understand the questions you pose-- and the reason for your lack of having any worthwhile answers to anything :roll: :wink: :lol:
 

Bill

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Oddtimer:
"b]Name me something in this world that is perfect or absolute[/b]..."

Why Oddtimer I can't believe you walked right into that one. Your expectation of Canada and the US having perfect feedbans and no post-feed ban positives, isn't that expecting perfection?. Didn't I mention a week or two ago, that there was nothing perfect including the feedban process yet you and Sadhusker both took a run at me.

The disbelief at the falling of the temple in Billings must be getting to you so go easy on the meds especially if you plan on driving.
 

PORKER

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Even USDA now admits the technology is not yet available to allow M-ID to operate at the speed of commerce without undo cost and hardship on the producers...
USDA Admits that ScoringAg is the only technology that works. Yup, not 1 Dime of Goverment loans or grants used to engineer the Unix mainframe database system. It was built with private funds and it runs in 210 countrys. Handles everything from carrots to 40 ft. shipping containers to the beef on the counter.I am proud to sell it,any takers! operates as fast as google and a 8th grader can run it. Oldtimer, even brands .Operates at the speed of commerce 24/7. Put this traceback code 006121368_3_3_4 in the SSI-EID search engine and see where some beef has traveled .
 
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Anonymous

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PORKER said:
Even USDA now admits the technology is not yet available to allow M-ID to operate at the speed of commerce without undo cost and hardship on the producers...
USDA Admits that ScoringAg is the only technology that works. Yup, not 1 Dime of Goverment loans or grants used to engineer the Unix mainframe database system. It was built with private funds and it runs in 210 countrys. Handles everything from carrots to 40 ft. shipping containers to the beef on the counter.I am proud to sell it,any takers! operates as fast as google and a 8th grader can run it. Oldtimer, even brands .Operates at the speed of commerce 24/7. Put this traceback code 006121368_3_3_4 in the SSI-EID search engine and see where some beef has traveled .

Well- thats what they were telling folks around here too-- until the USDA/BQA/NCBA/MSGA folks brought all their equipment out to test and demonstrate-- and found out half doesn't work unless you modify your corral/alleyway systems -- and the other half starts spitting and sputtering at 10 Below and completely goes defunct at 30 Below-- which is when commerce operates around here....

So Porker-- why hasn't Scoringgag told/demonstrated to Bruce Knight and these NAIS folks this perfect system if it has no flaws :???: ....He's the one that has asked Congress to hold up on the mandatory designation because of the problems/costs it will put on producers...
 
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Anonymous

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Bill said:
Oddtimer:
"b]Name me something in this world that is perfect or absolute[/b]..."

Why Oddtimer I can't believe you walked right into that one. Your expectation of Canada and the US having perfect feedbans and no post-feed ban positives, isn't that expecting perfection?. Didn't I mention a week or two ago, that there was nothing perfect including the feedban process yet you and Sadhusker both took a run at me.

.

One or two-- maybe--But 50% of the Positives found being Post feedban- when you aren't testing ALL :roll: Come off it Bill.....
 

mwj

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Oldtimer said:
mwj said:
Sandhusker said:
The states that do have brand laws can track those cattle. Wouldn't it make more sense to have the others catch up instead of making everybody do something that hasn't been proven, has no cost estimate, nobody knows who will run it, etc...?


You had better scratch Montana off the list and check with OT since he said the other day that it is not fool proof :shock: He even argued with his friend Porker that the famous scoring system that Porker pushes will not do the job. He even used an almost bad word in his post that you may want to chek out. He may have to be put on the ''schmuck'' list :wink:

Sweetheart-- Name me something in this world that is perfect or absolute...

And now that I know you are a female living in a Chicago tenament area, I better understand the questions you pose-- and the reason for your lack of having any worthwhile answers to anything :roll: :wink: :lol:

I am glad to see that you will admit all systems have some flaws 8) What do you want OT are you trolling for phone #'s? I like your style OT and I sure see why you are retired :wink:
 

RobertMac

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rkaiser said:
Dag nab it.

I screwed up . TAM write that down. Kaiser was wrong and admitted it.

Bos Taurus - not Bos Indicus

And I will apologize ahead of time for running down those wonderful flychaser off ers. Never ate any so I should not be so judgemental.

It's OK Randy, it wasn't a fatal screw up. The only USDA certified "Guaranteed Tender" branded beef program requires Bos Indicus influenced cattle. (That is a money back guarantee and with very little pay out). They get about the same rate of carcass acceptance as CAB...the number one reason for non-acceptance is the dang things grade Choice!!!!!!!!! Quality cattle make quality beef! 8)
 
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