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Mad as Hell

Lonecowboy

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In a new book, Mad As Hell , pollsters Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen use extensive and original research to explore the mind and heart of the grassroots uprising that has suddenly thrown American politics into turmoil. The authors explore the broad-based nature of the new movement and explain how it is reshaping American politics.

The Tea Party movement is not a flash in the pan,as many have assumed. Nor is it a movement of racist rednecks and ignorant boobs, as its detractors have crudely suggested. To the contrary, it is an authentic grassroots movement of concerned American citizens demanding to be heard by an out-of-touch political establishment. According to Rasmussen and Schoen, their concerns are real and their issues are legitimate--whether politicians and elite journalists like it or not.

The new book will be released by Harper Collins next Tuesday. MAD AS HELL: How the Tea Party Movement is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System

:D :D :D
 

hopalong

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Wonder how oldtimer will react to that?
Wonder if he will read the book or just go find some racist article so he can cut and paste it with out doing any real research
 

Mike

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OT will say the Tea Partiers he knows personally in Montana are different than what is described in the previous posts.

I'd be willing to bet that the fatman himself has never even met anyone who has BEEN to a Klan Rally.
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
OT will say the Tea Partiers he knows personally in Montana are different than what is described in the previous posts.

I'd be willing to bet that the fatman himself has never even met anyone who has BEEN to a Klan Rally.

the tea party was hijacked by republicans...it was WE ARE CHANGE members that started it and have now gotten out...palin and beck are just imposters...they are mass media whores....especially palin...
 

Larrry

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Lonecowboy said:
In a new book, Mad As Hell , pollsters Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen use extensive and original research to explore the mind and heart of the grassroots uprising that has suddenly thrown American politics into turmoil. The authors explore the broad-based nature of the new movement and explain how it is reshaping American politics.

The Tea Party movement is not a flash in the pan,as many have assumed. Nor is it a movement of racist rednecks and ignorant boobs, as its detractors have crudely suggested. To the contrary, it is an authentic grassroots movement of concerned American citizens demanding to be heard by an out-of-touch political establishment. According to Rasmussen and Schoen, their concerns are real and their issues are legitimate--whether politicians and elite journalists like it or not.

The new book will be released by Harper Collins next Tuesday. MAD AS HELL: How the Tea Party Movement is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System

:D :D :D
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Lonecowboy said:
In a new book, Mad As Hell , pollsters Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen use extensive and original research to explore the mind and heart of the grassroots uprising that has suddenly thrown American politics into turmoil. The authors explore the broad-based nature of the new movement and explain how it is reshaping American politics.

The Tea Party movement is not a flash in the pan,as many have assumed. Nor is it a movement of racist rednecks and ignorant boobs, as its detractors have crudely suggested. To the contrary, it is an authentic grassroots movement of concerned American citizens demanding to be heard by an out-of-touch political establishment. According to Rasmussen and Schoen, their concerns are real and their issues are legitimate--whether politicians and elite journalists like it or not.

The new book will be released by Harper Collins next Tuesday. MAD AS HELL: How the Tea Party Movement is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System

:D :D :D

That Doug Schoen is a Democrat strategist and it looks like he has seen the light. :D
 
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Anonymous

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But you got to love these Montana Teacrackpots leaders... What a crew!!!

In a state where the most seen bumper sticker is "Don't Californicate Montana"-- I can't believe the locals are letting all these nutcase out of staters to be their leaders.... :???: :( :(

The “T.E.A.” in Tea Party Means: Time to Enter an Asylum
By Cowgirl, on September 12, 2010, 1:46 pm

Henry Kriegel welcomes you to "the Resistance."
Just when you thought the Tea party leadership couldn’t get weirder, someone discovered a fascinating item.

It turns out that Henry Kriegel–right-wing nutjob, radio show host, pretender to the Tea Party throne, and leader of the Bozeman Tea Party–has been a high-ranking member of the Church Universal and Triumphant, also known as CUT.

In fact, Kriegel was actually featured a while back in an LA Times article about people who wander off and get caught up in cult-like religious movements. An “out of stater” (to use a Republican phrase), Kriegel is from New York and left the east coast on a soul search, came to Montana, and joined up with CUT. Wikipedia says that CUT members worship, among other things,

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“esoteric mysticism, the paranormal and alchemy, with a belief in angels, elves, fairies, and other beings it calls elementals” and “Ascended Masters through the Holy Spirit such as Sanat Kumara, Maitreya, Djwal Khul, El Morya, Kuthumi, Paul the Venetian, Serapis Bey, the Master Hilarion, Lanto, Lady Master Nada, Godfre, Lady Master Lotus, and Lanello, Enoch and Elohim.”

Hey, it’s a free country. Worship what pleases you (although, given his association with this weirdness, you gotta love the Bozeman Tea Party, and presumably Kriegel, complaining about a Mosque in New York.)

But even better, CUT was the bunch who believed that the world was going to end of a nuclear holocaust at a particular hour and minute on April 23, 1990. They built a massive underground bomb shelter up near Gardiner, MT and stocked it with several years worth of canned food and dried fruit and other supplies, in preparation for The End. When the dreaded hour approached, they headed down into the bunker to take cover from the Apocalypse. Alas, when the earth and humanity were still around the next day, the church and its leaders lost a lot of credibility, and many congregants became disillusioned and left, and went looking for another fringe sect to be a part of. And in Kriegel’s case, he found it–the Tea Party.

It is unclear whether Kriegel was in the bunker, or whether he is still involved with the church. Or even whether he believes in elves, fairies or the Master Hilarion or Lady Master Nada. (Who the heck is Lady Master Nada, anyway?) There is no mention of his CUT affiliation in any of his biographical material that I can find on the web. Likely it’s not something he is comfortable discussing in public.

But nothing about the Kriegel background really surprises me. The Tea Party is a crackpot enterprise of the first order. All you needed to do was witness the rally in Helena a while back, racists, militia-types, black-helicopter fearing conspiracy theorists, birthers and other idiots. As I recall, Kriegel addressed the crowd and ranted and raved and frothed unintelligibly (as Tea Partiers do) about excessive government, pointing to the Capitol building and complaining about spending and taxes.

Unfortunately the spending part was a little strange because while he was delivering his sermon, the Wall Street Journal, the most conservative paper in America, was churning out an editorial (written, no less, by the ultra-conservative Fox News economist Stephen Moore) praising the State of Montana as being the best fiscally managed state in America.

And the taxes part is even better: A few years ago, Kriegel was busted by the IRS for failing to pay a fortune in income taxes. Somehow, he got a bankruptcy court to let him off the hook on a large portion of it, that weasel.
 

Mike

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If this is where you get your info, you're even less credible than I ever thought.

www.mtcowgirl.com


"Political Gossip, Satire, and Analysis from MT's Capitol City"

You do know why many bloggers use the word "Satire" in their title description? So that they may say anything about anybody, whether it be truth or fiction without consequences and fear of libel/slander lawsuits. That gives them a front seat ticket to lie about someone. They never have to mention sources of info.

This is nothing but a Sarah Palin hitpiece, GOP trashing, Christian bashing lunatic, and Liberal "Gossip" column.

Where's the "Analysis"? All she knows to ANAL-IZE is gullible azzholes like you.

OT, You're a sleazy piece of white trash with no standards. :roll:

And THAT'S not "Satire".
 

movin' on

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"Don't Californicate Montana" is a pretty popular bumper sticker, huh?

You, OT, with your radical left views and secular progressive ways of thinking, are doing a fine job of Californicating Monatana all on your own.
 
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Anonymous

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Well if you were from Montana you would see the irony and hypocrisy in it...

It wasn't but just a few years ago that the right and radical right were bemoaning and wetting themselves over this CUT cult (much the same as they are now with the Muslims) that had bought up a bunch of land and moved in building their church commune... They were crying to the Governor and law enforcement to do something to run these "crazies" out....(But just like the Muslims of NYC- they were within their rights to buy property and build on it)

And now these same radical right folks apparently has one leading them... :wink: :p :lol:

Henry Kriegel, a radio talk show host and president of Montanans for Tax Reform, owed the Internal Revenue Service $10,326 in taxes, interest and penalties from taxes levied on him in 2003, the documents show. Last month, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Ralph Kirscher ordered the IRS to relieve Kriegel of the debt as part of a Chapter 7 bankruptcy filed by Kriegel earlier this year. Kirscher also ordered Kriegel to pay the IRS $2,547 in taxes and penalties from 2007.

And apparently one without much business sense or ability to handle money, if he had to declare bankruptcy.... :roll:
 

Whitewing

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So what's the point OT, that there's irony and hyprocrisy to be found in a political movement? Say it ain't so.

The real story in all of these posts of yours is that you're scared crapless of a political movement that is very energized and highly motivated to make some real changes in Washington. And that political movement's beliefs don't match your own so you do everything you can to paint the entire movement as a bunch of nuts. They're not. They're just pissed.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
Well if you were from Montana you would see the irony and hypocrisy in it...

It wasn't but just a few years ago that the right and radical right were bemoaning and wetting themselves over this CUT cult (much the same as they are now with the Muslims) that had bought up a bunch of land and moved in building their church commune... They were crying to the Governor and law enforcement to do something to run these "crazies" out....(But just like the Muslims of NYC- they were within their rights to buy property and build on it)

And now these same radical right folks apparently has one leading them... :wink: :p :lol:

Henry Kriegel, a radio talk show host and president of Montanans for Tax Reform, owed the Internal Revenue Service $10,326 in taxes, interest and penalties from taxes levied on him in 2003, the documents show. Last month, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Ralph Kirscher ordered the IRS to relieve Kriegel of the debt as part of a Chapter 7 bankruptcy filed by Kriegel earlier this year. Kirscher also ordered Kriegel to pay the IRS $2,547 in taxes and penalties from 2007.

And apparently one without much business sense or ability to handle money, if he had to declare bankruptcy.... :roll:

This just proves he fit to be Sec. of the Treasury. :roll:

Maybe he used Turbo Tax :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Well if you were from Montana you would see the irony and hypocrisy in it...

It wasn't but just a few years ago that the right and radical right were bemoaning and wetting themselves over this CUT cult (much the same as they are now with the Muslims) that had bought up a bunch of land and moved in building their church commune... They were crying to the Governor and law enforcement to do something to run these "crazies" out....(But just like the Muslims of NYC- they were within their rights to buy property and build on it)

And now these same radical right folks apparently has one leading them... :wink: :p :lol:

Henry Kriegel, a radio talk show host and president of Montanans for Tax Reform, owed the Internal Revenue Service $10,326 in taxes, interest and penalties from taxes levied on him in 2003, the documents show. Last month, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Ralph Kirscher ordered the IRS to relieve Kriegel of the debt as part of a Chapter 7 bankruptcy filed by Kriegel earlier this year. Kirscher also ordered Kriegel to pay the IRS $2,547 in taxes and penalties from 2007.

And apparently one without much business sense or ability to handle money, if he had to declare bankruptcy.... :roll:

This just proves he fit to be Sec. of the Treasury. :roll:

Maybe he used Turbo Tax :lol:

Show me where Geithner had to declare bankruptcy!!!
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Well if you were from Montana you would see the irony and hypocrisy in it...

It wasn't but just a few years ago that the right and radical right were bemoaning and wetting themselves over this CUT cult (much the same as they are now with the Muslims) that had bought up a bunch of land and moved in building their church commune... They were crying to the Governor and law enforcement to do something to run these "crazies" out....(But just like the Muslims of NYC- they were within their rights to buy property and build on it)

And now these same radical right folks apparently has one leading them... :wink: :p :lol:



And apparently one without much business sense or ability to handle money, if he had to declare bankruptcy.... :roll:

This just proves he fit to be Sec. of the Treasury. :roll:

Maybe he used Turbo Tax :lol:

Show me where Geithner had to declare bankruptcy!!!

Him and his buddy are in the process of banrupting our country as we speak oldtime, is that not close to fileing his own?


EH?
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Well if you were from Montana you would see the irony and hypocrisy in it...

It wasn't but just a few years ago that the right and radical right were bemoaning and wetting themselves over this CUT cult (much the same as they are now with the Muslims) that had bought up a bunch of land and moved in building their church commune... They were crying to the Governor and law enforcement to do something to run these "crazies" out....(But just like the Muslims of NYC- they were within their rights to buy property and build on it)

And now these same radical right folks apparently has one leading them... :wink: :p :lol:



And apparently one without much business sense or ability to handle money, if he had to declare bankruptcy.... :roll:

This just proves he fit to be Sec. of the Treasury. :roll:

Maybe he used Turbo Tax :lol:

Show me where Geithner had to declare bankruptcy!!!

humor:

1. a comic, absurd, or incongruous quality causing amusement: the humor of a situation.

2. the faculty of perceiving what is amusing or comical: He is completely without humor.

3. an instance of being or attempting to be comical or amusing; something humorous: The humor in his joke eluded the audience, or in this case, OT.
 

hopalong

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Lots of things fly right over oldtimers head, especially when he has spent time at the local pub buying everyone drinks so they will talk to him.
EH?
 
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Anonymous

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Well I think you folks will be disappointed if you think any Party- even Tea Partiers- are going to do much to change spending until the entire system of elected officials being in the pockets of and owing the Lobbyiests and big money folks favors for $ changes...

Just changes the direction they send the taxpayer and publics dollars...And we saw with the last administration how well it worked when the Wallstreet fatcats, multinational Corporate entities, and military-industrial complex were given free run....
BUSH BUST!!

Our Montana representative now calls himself a Tea Partier-- but for years has loved nothing better than sending out e-mails to the home folks trying to take credit for all the pork he got them...Even made McCains top 10 Porkulous lists for last session with his sponsorship/funding of the building of a World Trade Center in Missoula MT... :shock: :lol:

A rose, is a rose, is a rose--
A politician, is a politician, is a politician..

A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet--
A politician by any other name would still have their odor and stripe....

Just because Denny Rehberg and a bunch of Republicans now call themselves teabaggers doesn't mean they've changed their stripe or smell...

Many of these same folks now running under the "Tea Party" name are the same folks that when they controlled Congress rubber stamped every GW and Big Corporate lobbyiest request and expenditure--while filling their own pockets with lobbyiest money...Spent $ like it grew on trees....
Led to BUSH BUST!!!
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Many of these same folks now running under the "Tea Party" name are the same folks that when they controlled Congress rubber stamped every GW and Big Corporate lobbyiest request and expenditure--while filling their own pockets with lobbyiest money...Spent $ like it grew on trees....
Led to BUSH BUST!!!

How many in Congress claim to be "Tea Partiers"? Can you name 5?
 
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