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hypocritexposer

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Calif. Judges Order Massive Prisoner Release

Tuesday , February 10, 2009

SACRAMENTO, Calif. —
A special panel of federal judges tentatively ruled Monday that California must release tens of thousands of inmates to relieve overcrowding.

The judges said no other solution will improve conditions so poor that inmates die regularly of suicides or lack of proper care.

The panel said it wanted the state to present a plan to trim the population in two to three years.

"There are simply too many prisoners for the existing capacity," they wrote. "Evidence offered at trial was overwhelmingly to the effect that overcrowding is the primary cause of the unconstitutional conditions that have been found to exist in the California prisons."

The three judges suggested a target prison population of between 100,800 and 121,000 inmates — down from the current level of about 158,000. More inmates live in conservation camps, community correctional facilities and private prisons in other states.

The proposed targets would require the state to reduce the prison population by between 36,200 and 57,000 inmates. Attorneys representing inmates had sought a reduction of about 52,000 inmates.

The state can change parole and other policies to cut the population of its 33 adult prisons without endangering the public, the judges said.

Reducing the number of inmates might have a positive effect as well, they said. "This is particularly true considering that California's overcrowded prison system is itself ... a public safety hazard," the panel said in its order.

The state will appeal any final prisoner release order to the U.S. Supreme Court, said Matthew Cate, secretary of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.

"We disagree with the ruling. We disagree that the prisons are unsafe. We will appeal," Cate said, speaking on behalf of himself and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Releasing that many inmates is "the equivalent of between seven and 10 California prisons."

The three federal judges said a final population figure would be set later and they may hold more hearings before making their decision final.

After hearing closing arguments in the case last week, the judges said they wanted to quickly issue a tentative ruling in hopes of forcing the state to take steps on its own or reach a settlement with attorneys representing inmates.

In Monday's order, they offered the services of a court-appointed referee for settlement talks. Previous negotiations failed, forcing the trial that started in November.

The order comes as California struggles to bridge a $42 billion budget deficit that is forcing the state to furlough its employees two days each month.

An expert panel convened by California corrections officials has projected the state could save $803 million to $906 million annually if parolees were not sent back as easily for technical violations and if convicts could more easily earn early release credits by taking classes and vocational programs.
 

Mike

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Titre du document / Document title
Characteristics of prisoners in the California Department of Corrections: Race, ethnicity, and other aspects = Caractéristiques des prisonniers du California Department of Corrections : Race, ethnicité, et autres aspects
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
EISENMAN Russell (1) ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
(1) University of Texas-Pan American, ETATS-UNIS

Résumé / Abstract
A study of data from the California Department of Corrections - the system in California for adult prisoners - shows that there are more Hispanic prisoners than any other group, with African-Americans second in percentage incarcerated. Other data, from the population of 160,846 prisoners, reveals interesting findings. Prisoners seem more likely to come from southern California than from northern California. Drawing on the A.'s own prison work in California, it is suggested that gang membership may account, in part at least, for the large percentage of prisoners being Hispanic or African-American. Other issues are discussed.
Revue / Journal Title
Mankind quarterly ISSN 0025-2344

Anyone that would argue that race & crime is not an issue in this country is a fool. :roll:
 

badaxemoo

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Mike said:
Titre du document / Document title
Characteristics of prisoners in the California Department of Corrections: Race, ethnicity, and other aspects = Caractéristiques des prisonniers du California Department of Corrections : Race, ethnicité, et autres aspects
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
EISENMAN Russell (1) ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
(1) University of Texas-Pan American, ETATS-UNIS

Résumé / Abstract
A study of data from the California Department of Corrections - the system in California for adult prisoners - shows that there are more Hispanic prisoners than any other group, with African-Americans second in percentage incarcerated. Other data, from the population of 160,846 prisoners, reveals interesting findings. Prisoners seem more likely to come from southern California than from northern California. Drawing on the A.'s own prison work in California, it is suggested that gang membership may account, in part at least, for the large percentage of prisoners being Hispanic or African-American. Other issues are discussed.
Revue / Journal Title
Mankind quarterly ISSN 0025-2344

Anyone that would argue that race & crime is not an issue in this country is a fool. :roll:

Anyone that would argues that race and crime are an issue without including poverty, education, and any other number of social variables is the real fool. :roll:
 

Mike

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badaxemoo said:
Mike said:
Titre du document / Document title
Characteristics of prisoners in the California Department of Corrections: Race, ethnicity, and other aspects = Caractéristiques des prisonniers du California Department of Corrections : Race, ethnicité, et autres aspects
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
EISENMAN Russell (1) ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
(1) University of Texas-Pan American, ETATS-UNIS

Résumé / Abstract
A study of data from the California Department of Corrections - the system in California for adult prisoners - shows that there are more Hispanic prisoners than any other group, with African-Americans second in percentage incarcerated. Other data, from the population of 160,846 prisoners, reveals interesting findings. Prisoners seem more likely to come from southern California than from northern California. Drawing on the A.'s own prison work in California, it is suggested that gang membership may account, in part at least, for the large percentage of prisoners being Hispanic or African-American. Other issues are discussed.
Revue / Journal Title
Mankind quarterly ISSN 0025-2344

Anyone that would argue that race & crime is not an issue in this country is a fool. :roll:

Anyone that would argues that race and crime are an issue without including poverty, education, and any other number of social variables is the real fool. :roll:

The issues of poverty and education have been addressed by our goverment over the course of many years with $Trillions being thrown at it with little if no success.

Face it, those that want to do well in life have the opportunity, in varying degrees of course, and those who do not care to don't.

The problem is that those in the lower spectrum of society have produced offspring at a higher rate. Shades of Dr. William Shockley...........
 

badaxemoo

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Mike said:
The problem is that those in the lower spectrum of society have produced offspring at a higher rate. Shades of Dr. William Shockley...........

Same type of thing was said about the Irish 150 years ago.

Didn't hold true then and won't hold true for Blacks and Hispanics if they eventually achieve a level playing field.

It's happening, just not as fast as many would like.
 

aplusmnt

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badaxemoo said:
Didn't hold true then and won't hold true for Blacks and Hispanics if they eventually achieve a level playing field.

Where you been lately? We have a Black President the playing field is level if a Black man can achieve the highest job in the world then the playing field is plenty level.

Wake up!
 

badaxemoo

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Where you been lately? We have a Black President the playing field is level if a Black man can achieve the highest job in the world then the playing field is plenty level.

Wake up![/quote]

I'm not the one that needs to be woken up.

When women achieved the vote in 1920, did that mean that the playing field instantly became level? It still isn't level nearly 90 years later.

If you were somehow time-transported back to 1863, you'd be claiming that the playing field was level as soon as Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, despite the overwhelming amount of actual evidence to the contrary.
 

aplusmnt

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badaxemoo said:
If you were somehow time-transported back to 1863, you'd be claiming that the playing field was level as soon as Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, despite the overwhelming amount of actual evidence to the contrary.

I look at it in the way that made America great, that if you want to achieve you can! And that has happened for Blacks!

Blacks playing field has been leveled, case closed! Will racism ever go away no! But then again never will the racism blacks show towards Hispanics and whites. Point is it is level now, there is racism amongst all racist. There are whites that do not like blacks and there is blacks that do not like whites, the field is level now. Obama proved this!
 
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