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Big Muddy rancher

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Last week the US kill was 594,000 of which 8,500 were Canadian cattle.

the Canadian kill was 51,562

Australia yearly kill is only 845,000 averageing 16,000 a week.

Why are some US producers frightened of this little competition?
 

Ben Roberts

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Last week the US kill was 594,000 of which 8,500 were Canadian cattle.

the Canadian kill was 51,562

Australia yearly kill is only 845,000 averageing 16,000 a week.

Why are some US producers frightened of this little competition?


Big Muddy Rancher, What competition,cattle proudcers from the US,Canada and Australia are the only ones that loose market share, the packers are the same,in all three countries.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts
 

Ben Roberts

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Last week the US kill was 594,000 of which 8,500 were Canadian cattle.

Big Muddy Rancher,how many of those 8,500 Canadian cattle that came across that border,would you guess,started out as feeders from the US?

Best Regards
Ben Roberts



the Canadian kill was 51,562

Australia yearly kill is only 845,000 averageing 16,000 a week.

Why are some US producers frightened of this little competition?
 

Jason

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Ben, what do you think has been the reason(s) for beef (and therefore producers) losing market share?

If your answer includes the packers, what incentive do they have to reduce market share of beef?

I know what was a major factor in beef demand decline, when I post it I will ask whose fault it was.
 

RobertMac

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BMR, the market is like a balance beam with kill on one side and consumption on the other. If it only takes a kill 590,000 to balance consumption, what effect does the excess kill of 4,000 have on the market?

Come on Jason, I'd love to hear this...I talk to consumers all the time that have stopped eating beef. And please don't say price because beef has always been priced higher than the other proteins.
 

Ben Roberts

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Jason said:
Ben, what do you think has been the reason(s) for beef (and therefore producers) losing market share?

If your answer includes the packers, what incentive do they have to reduce market share of beef?

I know what was a major factor in beef demand decline, when I post it I will ask whose fault it was.

Jason, Cattle producers,only loose market share in cattle.Packers,loose market share in beef. When we lost our export markets because of BSE,cattle producers in this country lost market share,because we could no longer produce cattle to be fed and slaughtered for those markets. The packers on the other hand,never lost market share,they just service those markets from other countries.

There are many reasons for gaining or losing market share.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts
 

Jason

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Price of beef has some effect on consumption, but Robert that is not that main reason.

You and I agree to a great extent on some aspects of the main reason. It started quite some time ago.
 

RobertMac

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Jason said:
Price of beef has some effect on consumption, but Robert that is not that main reason.

You and I agree to a great extent on some aspects of the main reason. It started quite some time ago.

Jason, you might have just ruined your credibility with some on here! :wink:
 

Jason

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Robert Mac, you should know me well enough by now that I don't place much stock in what others tell me my credibility is :wink:

Thanks to the internet I have learned many things I never had the time or sometimes even the desire to learn about. I also found out quickly on cattle sites that our reasons for doing certian things better be more than pappy did so its good enough for me.

One of the very interesting sites I learned quite a bit from was the history page of IBP. I'm not sure if it is still on the Tyson site, but it was sure worth a read as some of the things we are dealing with now came from developments that happened before I was born.

I have been blessed with a history of my own in the cattle business, and was eager enough to learn from my late grandfather and my father. Sometimes he couldn't defend certian practices, so we would investigate changes that made sence.

Lots of cattlemen are about his age, and I have seen a lot quit the business this past year rather than learn to age verify, take on more cows etc. The industry here is entering a period of rapid change where we will see lots of new developments. It's getting interesting.
 
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