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MAXINE- Scream Foul

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Anonymous

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Maxine-- Canucks are using checkoff money to promote "CANADIAN" beef instead of that old generic NCBA stuff...And they are doing it both in Canada and the US...

You better tell them thar dum folk that NCBA says that you ain't supposed to do that :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.canadianbeef.info/us/en/default.aspx
 

Mike

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Maxine-- Canucks are using checkoff money to promote "CANADIAN" beef instead of that old generic NCBA stuff...And they are doing it both in Canada and the US...

You better tell them thar dum folk that NCBA says that you ain't supposed to do that :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.canadianbeef.info/us/en/default.aspx

Bet she hits the gin hard now!

She's been arguing against advertising USA Beef for years now!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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I wanted to bring this back to the top again to assure Maxine didn't miss it...And I'm sure she will want to know that even the Packer Backer publications are putting out the positive aspects of having an M-COOL... :wink: :lol:

Market Trends
Poll shows more Americans checking COOL labels

By Tom Johnston on 9/24/2007 for Meatingplace.com


More Americans are checking product and food labels after the proliferation of scares associated with Chinese imports, according to a survey conducted by the Sacred Heart University Polling Institute.

Nearly 69 percent of the 1,000 Americans polled indicated they check labels for nation of origin, up from 53 percent a year ago, the institute said.

Furthermore, 86 percent agreed with a statement calling for suspension of Chinese imports until China meets U.S. product and food-safety standards.

Meantime, 87 percent indicated they have confidence in American-made and distributed products and food.

But fewer than half of Americans surveyed (47 percent) agreed that the United States is doing a good job ensuring imports meet set safety and quality standards.

"It's not surprising that Americans are clearly very concerned about food imported from other countries," Dr. Balbir Bhasin, a professor of international business at Sacred Heart, said in a press release. "The government clearly needs to do more to protect the consumer for poor quality imports, especially meats, fish and dairy products. Labels and expiration dates alone do not suffice."
 

PPRM

Well-known member
Our Labels say, "From our Family to yours"......Specific to whose cattle they are.....I'd like to see more branding and origin labels myself. That way if someone does a real good job, they can be rewarded by customers knowing how to repeat the experience. If someone does a bad job, the customer doesn't lump us all together,

I don't think Product of USA, Canada, Australia is specific enough...Things like process differ to much within the classification,

PPRM
 

rkaiser

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Especially when "product of Canada" means that the "cattle" were mostly bought by two American multinational companies, and the "beef" is promoted by the checkoff dollars from the cattle before the packer owned them.

Pretty nice web site advertising beef for Cargill and Tyson don't you say?

The most pathetic situation any industry finds itself in I say.
 

PORKER

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.....I'd like to see more branding and origin labels myself.

One Big reason to use the International know system ScoringAg unless you got something to hide or counterfieted product. Do a search of this slaughtered animal at www.traceback.com at SSI-EID package code SSI_91D983AEB7

The best branding system going.
 
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Anonymous

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U.S. Cattlemen Association launches campaign to amend beef checkoff



Midwest Messenger

Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:24 PM CDT



The United States Cattlemen's Association (USCA) has launched a nationwide initiative to seek changes to the mandatory beef checkoff program that would permit a portion of checkoff funds for domestic beef promotion.



Leo McDonnell, USCA director emeritus from Columbus, Mont., told those attending a meeting Sept. 25 in Lewistown, Mont.,that the time is right for U.S. producers to ask Congress for modifications to the Beef Act that will permit development of national and international marketing programs supporting domestic beef actually derived from cattle born, raised and processed in the U.S.


"Never before have producers had so much opportunity on Capitol Hill," noted McDonnell. "There are many positive things happening. We are on the cusp of seeing mandatory country of origin labeling implemented. It only makes sense for U.S. producers to direct their checkoff dollars towards supporting their domestically born and raised product. It is important that we let Congress know the changes we are seeking and this initiative is the method to accomplish that."



USCA's proposal would earmark a portion of checkoff funds collected from U.S. cattle producers for use in promoting products from cattle specifically born and raised in the U.S.



The Beef Checkoff was established in 1986 and has had little significant modification since then.



As written, the Beef Promotion Act does not currently allow checkoff funds to distinguish U.S. born and raised beef from imported product. Only beef in a generic sense can be promoted, regardless of what country the cattle originate in.



Jim Hanna, USCA director and checkoff committee chairman from Nebraska, said the initiative seeks changes to the law that producers overwhelmingly support.



"We have bulletproof survey results that show over 92 percent of cattlemen nationwide support this concept. We want to back those results up with boxes of letters with producer signatures that we can show to Congress when we press for changes in the Beef Act," Hanna said. "We have a number of other important changes that need to be made to the program, but the born and raised concept is the most critical at this time."



Hanna said the proposal should not be interpreted as an attack on the checkoff.



"In fact, it's far from it," he said. "USCA has policy that clearly shows our support for the program. Our goal is to simply make the checkoff more responsive to those who pay the dollar per head fee.


"Participating is easy. All we're asking is that producers across the nation sign on to a letter addressed to Congress seeking this simple change in the Beef Act."



For information about how to sign on or how to help circulate a letter, contact USCA at [email protected] or call Jim Hanna at 308-748-2233.



midwestmessenger.com
 

mrj

Well-known member
OT, have you been spying again???? I'd not even left for my little week-end off the ranch yet at the time you posted your silly, baseless attack on NCBA!

How do you know the Canadians are NOT doing the same thing the US Beef Checkoff does.......not differentiating beef produced, fed, or processed entirely within Canada, from that which might have been imported, then only fed and/or processed in Canada, when advertising beef exported to another country (the USA in this case)?

Mike, newsflash for you! It is not that the Federation div. of NCBA does not WANT to advertise USA beef with Checkoff dollars, but that they CANNOT, under the law, do so because importers also pay the beef checkoff.

IMO, we could pro-rate and use a percentage of dollars to advertise beef ONLY bred, born, raised, processed, packaged, and sold within the USA.....but the law doesn't spell that out.

That would be fine by me, and I might also want to pro-rate the contribution from various states, and use the large contribution from SD to the national beef checkoff to advertise the superior beef produced in SD against your AL beef. How would that go over with the states which have fewer Beef Checkoff dollars????

OT, your Tom Johnston /Meatingplace poll differs a bit from the Zogby poll which showed that many consumers admit they don't really read labels on meat.

Recent and continuing market research work of NCBA with 1500 consumers in focus study groups last Jan., and 3000 consumers in a group last July show there are six key drivers of beef perceptions among consumers: 1 Eating Experience. They want a meal thats special, like a treat that satisfies their craving and has great taste. 2. Fuel For The Body: 'new' research and info on nutrients not found in other protein sources that isn't overly processed. 3.Preparation/Convenience/Confidence: Food that is easy to prepare well. 4. Budget: Consumers want their moneys worth. 5. Nutrition: Consumers want low fat, nutritious, 'non-heavy' foods that fit a balanced diet. They want it easy to digest. They want specifics on how beef meets nutritional needs. 6. Safety: Consumers expect beef to be "extremely" safe to eat.

PPRM has it exactly right: simple COOL labeling is NOT all that consumers want from a beef label!

mrj
 

Sandhusker

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MRJ, "Mike, newsflash for you! It is not that the Federation div. of NCBA does not WANT to advertise USA beef with Checkoff dollars, but that they CANNOT, under the law, do so because importers also pay the beef checkoff. "

Did they ever think of trying to change the law?
 

Mike

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
MRJ, "Mike, newsflash for you! It is not that the Federation div. of NCBA does not WANT to advertise USA beef with Checkoff dollars, but that they CANNOT, under the law, do so because importers also pay the beef checkoff. "

Did they ever think of trying to change the law?

Well, they spend several million dollars with the "Meat Import Council" and I guess they don't want to make them mad either. :???:

http://www.micausa.org/info.asp

They even have a: "NCBA/CBB/MICA Joint Working Committee"
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Mike

Well-known member
Mike, newsflash for you! It is not that the Federation div. of NCBA does not WANT to advertise USA beef with Checkoff dollars, but that they CANNOT, under the law, do so because importers also pay the beef checkoff.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that they cannot promote USA beef here in the USA?

If this is true, this needs to be changed big time.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. :mad:

And this is the only reason?

" because importers also pay the beef checkoff."

Just what difference does that make? :mad:

I used to just THINK the NCBA were dummies. NOW I KNOW they are.
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
Mike, newsflash for you! It is not that the Federation div. of NCBA does not WANT to advertise USA beef with Checkoff dollars, but that they CANNOT, under the law, do so because importers also pay the beef checkoff.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that they cannot promote USA beef here in the USA?

If this is true, this needs to be changed big time.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. :mad:

And this is the only reason?

" because importers also pay the beef checkoff."

Just what difference does that make? :mad:

I used to just THINK the NCBA were dummies. NOW I KNOW they are.

As written, the Beef Promotion Act does not currently allow checkoff funds to distinguish U.S. born and raised beef from imported product. Only beef in a generic sense can be promoted, regardless of what country the cattle originate in.


Yep-- written just as the Packers and their backers at AMI/NCBA/CBB want it...

An outdated checkoff that if not changed, needs to be nullified...Even Monte Reese, when I spoke to him thought the funds collected from US cattle could be used, and would stand up to a legal challenge, to promote US BEEF-- if the Packers/AMI/USDA/NCBA weren't fighting against it so hard...

Except as I've known for years-- NCBA does not represent the United States cattle producer......
 

mrj

Well-known member
More typical OT slime thrown at NCBA!

At least 80% of beef in the USA is produced here, maybe 20% is imported, and 80% of Beef Checkoff dollars are from USA producers and 20% is from importers, why do you fail to understand that 80% of the money IS advertising US beef and ONLY 20% is advertising imported beef?

Fact: maybe 5% of imported beef is sold at retail in the USA. Fact: about 95% of imported beef is exempt from COOL because it is sold through food service channels. COOL is going to do NOTHING to improve anything about the cattle or beef industry. There will be NO demonstrable benefit from COOL for US cattle producers or consumers.

mrj
 
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Anonymous

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Maxine 92% of checkoff paying producers in the country don't agree with you...They want their checkoff funds designated for ads and promotions of USA BEEF- born, raised, and slaughtered...The world-- the cattle industry- and the folks in that industry have changed since 30 years ago when the checkoff was developed...

But you keep following that same 30 year old NCBA goose step and practicing your Sig Heils !! :wink: :lol:
 
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