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Maybe age verification will pay.

Big Muddy rancher

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Rumor has it that Cargill is going to charge a $25 "Dentition" fee for cattle not age verified. Maybe that will kick start the program.
Wonder if they did that in the US if the tune would change on M'ID?
 

Bward

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It does'nt take any time for a Premium ( age verification) to tun into a discount in order to force compliance.

Now packers are charging an SRM disposal fee on each head slaughtered. Guess who gets to pay that?

The last time I sold Malt barley which was like 10 years ago, the total amount was $12,000 of which $4,000 was fees for storage ( whether they actually store it or not), transportation, (whether its shipped by train or picked up for free by the malsters), and a bunch of other profit forming fees. But of course I wasn't paid for it when it was initially accepted by the malsters. I had to wait 10 months for them to call it. But for that I got paid 165 for on farm storage.

I am getting away from the topic but my point is if they can find a way to charge us to sell them something, they will use it.

How long will it take for the fees imposed to outweigh the cost of the animal? Or are we there already? :shock:
 

DiamondSCattleCo

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Sandhusker said:
What good has M-ID done for you?

Actually it was a big time help. While it would certainly be difficult to prove, M-ID helped open up several export markets well in advance of the US and other countries who had BSE. It was part of the reason that the OIE gave us our risk category. And I personally like the idea that if an infectious disease is found in my livestock that I will get an immediate warning versus not having a clue. Too many cattle producers like to have their heads in the sand when dealing with their livestock.

I only wish our M-ID was more Japanese, where the livestock owner and all herd history is available to everyone who buys the animals. I know some cattlemen are scared of something like this, but I'm proud of my animals that I ship, and I'd love to be able to skip the extra step of ear tagging my animals with my brand.

Rod
 

Sandhusker

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DiamondSCattleCo said:
Sandhusker said:
What good has M-ID done for you?

Actually it was a big time help. While it would certainly be difficult to prove, M-ID helped open up several export markets well in advance of the US and other countries who had BSE. It was part of the reason that the OIE gave us our risk category. And I personally like the idea that if an infectious disease is found in my livestock that I will get an immediate warning versus not having a clue. Too many cattle producers like to have their heads in the sand when dealing with their livestock.

I only wish our M-ID was more Japanese, where the livestock owner and all herd history is available to everyone who buys the animals. I know some cattlemen are scared of something like this, but I'm proud of my animals that I ship, and I'd love to be able to skip the extra step of ear tagging my animals with my brand.

Rod

But you're still shipping most of your beef South...
 

DiamondSCattleCo

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Sandhusker said:
But you're still shipping most of your beef South...

Thats not a indication of whether M-ID has worked or not, but a function of geography. Quite frankly, without M-ID, I doubt the US border would have opened as quickly as it did and we'd have lost even more billions of dollars.

Rod
 

Sandhusker

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DiamondSCattleCo said:
Sandhusker said:
But you're still shipping most of your beef South...

Thats not a indication of whether M-ID has worked or not, but a function of geography. Quite frankly, without M-ID, I doubt the US border would have opened as quickly as it did and we'd have lost even more billions of dollars.

Rod

I don't think M-ID had a thing to do with opening the US border. The USDA had been pulling all the stops to get it open regardless - a reflection of the Bush administration's "trade is trump" policies. Nothing matter but making money.
 

DiamondSCattleCo

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Sandhusker said:
I don't think M-ID had a thing to do with opening the US border. The USDA had been pulling all the stops to get it open regardless - a reflection of the Bush administration's "trade is trump" policies. Nothing matter but making money.

There ya go Husker, thinkin' like an American again. :wink:

One of the reasons why the USDA was pulling to get the border open is because the USA was in open violation of WTO trade practices. Like it or not, you cannot require more stringent standards on imports than you have on domestic product. Our M-ID was the "trump" card, because at the time, our feed ban was pretty much the same as yours, as was our SRM removal policy. M-ID also contributed in a big way to our OIE classification, which has helped with Rule 2.

The US was and is desperately trying to get borders open to your own beef, so how would it have appeared on the world stage if you had violated WTO rules, all the while trying to use those same rules to pry open other borders? As a patriotic American, you may not agree, but you have to play by the rules that your own country helped to create.

Rod
 
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