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aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
kolanuraven said:
If I remember right it was the voting record since the war in Iraq began. I'd say they used that as a starting point since that's his 'push button' topic it seems.


Either way, life time or not....pretty sorry record!


Aminus....read the bold script. I never gave a time line in my post!


My point is that the people he works for didn't hire him to be a butterfly and flit in and out. Would you want an employee of yours only showing up on days he got paid instead of every day whether you needed him that day or not????

If my employee had 20 years of exemplary attendance. And he took off on a day that he knew there would be absolutely no work to be done, I would not mind.

They know a head of time what they will be voting on and pretty well who is going to vote on it. So if he misses voting on some stupid non binding legislation that the Dem's are offering, I would not mind at all that he missed it. Plus on some bills he knew they would be passed, the President would Veto and then he would vote to keep the Veto from being over turned.

I am sure he is keeping up with the important stuff and missing the non binders. That one article you listed even said he canceled a trip to come back and vote on an important bill.

Unless we say that congressmen, Governors or any politician currently holding office can not run for President, we will have to accept that time will be taken away from their current job when doing so.

And you will see Hillary and Obama missing votes before the election in 2008. I bet Hilary's %'s catch McCain by Dec 2008.

I believe McCain had a 29% last time he ran for office and Kerry 72% I am sure McCain's percentages will be more like 29% or so once the Dem's quit all this non binding bills.

But the bottom line is he has had an Exemplary voting record for 20 years and you are dogging him for a 2-3 month span. Typical Liberal ploy, you should go to work in the Media :wink:
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
Now is NOT the time to drop the ball!!!!!

The past is just exactly that THE PAST!

So you think it is vital that a senator be there to vote on a Non binding bill? Or one that the President has said he will Veto?

And the past is the best thing to predict the future.

And 20 years of exemplary voting record is a pretty good sign of a McCain's seriousness about his job. I would never vote for McCain in a primary, and hope he is not the next president. But you are off base on making him out to be someone that shuns his responsibility. I believe McCain is a very dedicated senator even if I do not agree with how he votes at times.

Ps. You are going to compare our serious political situation to a ball game? :shock: Almost as bad as comparing it to an oil change :wink: :lol:
 

kolanuraven

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Point is....IF...IF..he were to win the election, and the Supreme Court could give it to him as it's happened before when a man did not win an election, would he show up every day and not on days for just the ' fun stuff'.

If one gets away with something....others will think they can also.
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
If one gets away with something....others will think they can also.

You might be right, McCain probably learned this bad habit from Kerry when he missed 72% of the votes for a whole complete Congressional term. :wink:

He was probably telling himself, if Kerry can miss 72% then I should be able to get away with 50% since the Media did not make a big deal about it.

Or maybe he was just thinking since he has 20 years of exemplary service maybe it will be ok if I miss these few non binding votes and take care of more important things.

I know if I had an employee with exemplary attendance for 20 years, I would give him a few days off to run for President. Especially if nothing important was going on at work those days.
 
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A year or two ago A+ I'd have agreed with you about Hillary- and bet the farm that there is no way she could win... Not anymore...Years of non action by the neocon Repubs and failure to enforce the laws on the books (like the immigration and antitrust laws & corporate violations ) while erroding states rights and citizens liberties (Homeland Security Dept. & Patriot Act) by the Bush Administration have lost a lot of people faith in them- even losing the Party much of the following of the true conservatives and Libertarians they had--- and the Democratic Party is coming on as the party that puts the well being of the common people ahead of the Corporate interests...

While the current leadership of the Repubs is promoting what has become a very unpopular foreign policy/war and an immigration amnesty plan that is unpopular from all sides - and is heavily divided on issues such as abortion policy & moral issues, the Dems are promoting things that the majority of the voters want to hear about-SS guarantees, HealthCare and insurance costs, US job guarantees, an end to the war and foreign policy change, etc. etc...I see today where Obama came out with a National Health Care plan that guarantees everyone health insurance (since 45% now have nothing)- which means now he, Hillary, and Edwards are all promoting something along that line...

There may be time for a Fred Thomas or a Newt to unite the party (if its even uniteable)- but its fastly running out and I'm not sure it can occur while GW is in office-- which will guarantee whoever gets the Dem nomination the White House- with the Dems getting a large grab of the Hill.....And as even many of the conservative commentators are noting, may be a many year reign by the Democratic Party before either can be regained by the Republicans (if the Republican party is salvageable).....

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Who do Voters Trust (Rasmussen Polls)
Nat'l Security
Dem 46%
Rep 43%
Dem Advtg. +3

Taxes
Dem 47%
Rep 42%
Dem Advtg +5

Abortion
Dem 45%
Rep 38%
Dem Advtg +7

Economy
Dem 48%
Rep 40%
Dem Advtg +8

Ethics & Corruption
Dem 43%
Rep 32%
Dem Advtg +11

War in Iraq
Dem 49%
Rep 37%
Dem Advtg +12

Immigration
Dem 47%
Rep 33%
Dem Advtg +14

Education
Dem 50%
Rep 35%
Dem Advtg +15

Soc. Security
Dem 50%
Rep 34%
Dem Advtg +16

Healthcare
Dem 57%
Rep 30%
Dem Advtg +27


Democrats Trusted More Than Republicans on 10 Key Issues
Thursday, May 24, 2007

Democrats are currently trusted more than Republicans on all ten issues measured in Rasmussen Reports tracking surveys. Democrats even have slight advantages on National Security and Taxes, two issues “owned” by Republicans during the generation since Ronald Reagan took office.

On National Security, 46% now trust Democrats more while 43% prefer the GOP. On taxes, the Democrats have a five point advantage, 47% to 42%. Democrats enjoy double digit advantages on ethics and government corruption, the War in Iraq, Immigration, Education, Social Security, and Healthcare.

The Republicans are within single digits on Abortion and the Economy.

Rasmussen Reports monthly surveys have shown a sharp decline in the number of Americans considering themselves Republicans over the past eight months. Democrats currently enjoy an 11-point advantage on the Generic Congressional Ballot.

The tracking on the immigration issue was completed before the furor over the immigration bill currently being debated in the Senate. On May 8-9, Democrats had a fourteen point advantage on the issue (47% to 33%). The immigration bill is favored by just 26% of voters and opposed by 48%.
 

kolanuraven

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I hope she wins and wins BIG!!!

I'm not particularly fond of her...BUT if she wins we get Bill back by default!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :tiphat:
 

Dakota Kristine

Active member
Could you all explain what missed vote means?

I like McCain, my brother has been following him and doesn't like him, he changes his mind to much and doesn't stick to certain things he believes in rather then popularity.

I would rather Obama then McCain, but I haven't been following this as much as everyone else :lol:
 

aplusmnt

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Dakota Kristine said:
Could you all explain what missed vote means?

I like McCain, my brother has been following him and doesn't like him, he changes his mind to much and doesn't stick to certain things he believes in rather then popularity.

I would rather Obama then McCain, but I haven't been following this as much as everyone else :lol:

When senators have to vote on something when we say missed vote it means they were gone that day and did not get to vote on what ever legislation the rest of the senators voted on.
 

memanpa

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kolanuraven said:
I hope she wins and wins BIG!!!

I'm not particularly fond of her...BUT if she wins we get Bill back by default!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :tiphat:[/quote

guess that means you can be an aide again HUH :D :D although he like all men will turn his nose up at the thought of touching you lol lol lol lol

i will call you upon touchdown honey, you can meet me at the gate and we can jump on your "X" and head for begas for the wedding
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
I hope she wins and wins BIG!!!

I'm not particularly fond of her...BUT if she wins we get Bill back by default!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :tiphat:

If she wins I am moving to Canada! Anyone know were you can buy a book that teaches the Canadian Language? :lol:
 

Mrs.Greg

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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
I hope she wins and wins BIG!!!

I'm not particularly fond of her...BUT if she wins we get Bill back by default!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :tiphat:

If she wins I am moving to Canada! Anyone know were you can buy a book that teaches the Canadian Language? :lol:
Smart pants...but I hear ya,we have a awesome Prime Minister,hope your move doesn't jinx him.... :p
 
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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
I hope she wins and wins BIG!!!

I'm not particularly fond of her...BUT if she wins we get Bill back by default!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :tiphat:

If she wins I am moving to Canada! Anyone know were you can buy a book that teaches the Canadian Language? :lol:

Just remember to say EH at the end of every sentence and you'll be half way there...Then you can start working on the "Aboots and abouts" and all those words they throw an extra "u" into... :wink: :lol:
 

aplusmnt

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Mrs.Greg said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
I hope she wins and wins BIG!!!

I'm not particularly fond of her...BUT if she wins we get Bill back by default!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :tiphat:

If she wins I am moving to Canada! Anyone know were you can buy a book that teaches the Canadian Language? :lol:
Smart pants...but I hear ya,we have a awesome Prime Minister,hope your move doesn't jinx him.... :p

I have been watching Hockey in preparation for my move though. Kind of taking a liking to it.

I figure if Hillary wins I will be the Conservative version of nonothing. I would come on here and complain about American Politicians and harass Kolan. :lol:
 

kolanuraven

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Dakota Kristine said:
Could you all explain what missed vote means?

I like McCain, my brother has been following him and doesn't like him, he changes his mind to much and doesn't stick to certain things he believes in rather then popularity.

I would rather Obama then McCain, but I haven't been following this as much as everyone else :lol:


It means that he took tax payers money for that day and didn't work!!!

I think in another word might be " welfare" for that day!
 

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