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Military sources: Obama hampered rescue operations

hypocritexposer

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WASHINGTON – While Barack Obama is basking in praise for his "decisive" handling of the Somali pirate attack on a merchant ship in the India Ocean, reliable military sources close to the scene are painting a much different picture of the incident – accusing the president of employing restrictive rules of engagement that actually hampered the rescue of Capt. Richard Phillips and extended the drama at sea for days.

Multiple opportunities to free the captain of the Maersk Alabama from three young pirates were missed, these sources say – all because a Navy SEAL team was not immediately ordered to the scene and then forced to operate under strict, non-lethal rules of engagement.

They say the response duty office at the Pentagon was initially unwilling to grant an order to use lethal force to rescue Phillips. They also report the White House refused to authorize deployment of a Navy SEAL team to the location for 36 hours, despite the recommendation of the on-scene commander.

The White House also turned down two rescue plans offered up by the Seal commander on the scene and the captain of the USS Bainbridge.

The SEAL team operated under rules of engagement that required them to do nothing unless the hostage's life was in "imminent' danger.

In fact, when the USS Bainbridge dispatched a rigid-hull inflatable boat to bring supplies to the Maersk Alabama, it came under fire that could not be returned even though the SEAL team had the pirates in their sights.

Many hours before the fatal shots were fired, taking out the three young pirates, Phillips jumped into the Indian Ocean with the idea of giving the snipers a clear target. However, the SEAL team was still under orders not to shoot.

Hours later, frustrated by the missed opportunities to resolve the standoff, the commander of the Bainbridge and the captain of the Navy SEAL team determined they had operational authority to evaluate the risk to the hostage, and took out the pirates at the first opportunity – finally freeing Phillips.
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loomixguy

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Well, Barry Sotero had to consult with the leading world expert in terrorism and hostage negotiations, our very own AT! They probably spent the first 36 hours imagining that it was all Bush's fault.

The Sotero Administration has absolutley NO BALLS, and any piss-pot dictator can run amok at will.....even Khadafy might start gettin' jiggy wif it!

God Bless the Skipper of the Bainbridge and the SEAL Captain for doing what needed to be done. Situational Authority gets things done.
 

Tam

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When the Captain was back in the US he spoke to the media and thanked everyone. He said the Seals were the heros and thanked everyone aboard the Navy Ships. But not one word about Obama or a thank you to him for the orders given to rescue him. Maybe this is why, maybe he was told that he could have been out hours earlier if only the Commander and Chief would have allowed action be taken.
 

jigs

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obama's thought process.....

how do I make an agressive approach at saving this sailor? I need to look decisive and strong, to keep the sheeple here in America thinking I am in this for them, yet not offend my homeland and brothers of Islam and Afrika as I do it....

ah yes! send in the crack military SEAL team to look like a stud here, but tie thier hands so the Afrika brotus look like great men also.
it is a win win for me !!


stupid muslim president, he is going to ruin this nation.
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
When the Captain was back in the US he spoke to the media and thanked everyone. He said the Seals were the heros and thanked everyone aboard the Navy Ships. But not one word about Obama or a thank you to him for the orders given to rescue him. Maybe this is why, maybe he was told that he could have been out hours earlier if only the Commander and Chief would have allowed action be taken.

Which Commander and which Chief you talking about :???: ...I wasn't aware you knew the navy folks involved personally...
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
When the Captain was back in the US he spoke to the media and thanked everyone. He said the Seals were the heros and thanked everyone aboard the Navy Ships. But not one word about Obama or a thank you to him for the orders given to rescue him. Maybe this is why, maybe he was told that he could have been out hours earlier if only the Commander and Chief would have allowed action be taken.

Which Commander and which Chief you talking about :???: ...I wasn't aware you knew the navy folks involved personally...

If you do not want to comment on Obama's failure to give the orders to get the Captain out then stay out of the discussion and stop distracting the topic. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
When the Captain was back in the US he spoke to the media and thanked everyone. He said the Seals were the heros and thanked everyone aboard the Navy Ships. But not one word about Obama or a thank you to him for the orders given to rescue him. Maybe this is why, maybe he was told that he could have been out hours earlier if only the Commander and Chief would have allowed action be taken.

Which Commander and which Chief you talking about :???: ...I wasn't aware you knew the navy folks involved personally...

If you do not want to comment on Obama's failure to give the orders to get the Captain out then stay out of the discussion and stop distracting the topic. :roll:

Well if you don't know the difference between the Commander and Chief and the Commander in Chief- there isn't apparently any educated discussion you could bring to this board :wink: :lol:

This Monday Morning quarterbacking of the the Commander in Chief's actions kind of reminds me of why Kansas and Nebraska can't get a decent football team-- all the old has beens and wannabes all seem to know more than the folks in the actual game....
 

kolanuraven

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
When the Captain was back in the US he spoke to the media and thanked everyone. He said the Seals were the heros and thanked everyone aboard the Navy Ships. But not one word about Obama or a thank you to him for the orders given to rescue him. Maybe this is why, maybe he was told that he could have been out hours earlier if only the Commander and Chief would have allowed action be taken.

Which Commander and which Chief you talking about :???: ...I wasn't aware you knew the navy folks involved personally...

If you do not want to comment on Obama's failure to give the orders to get the Captain out then stay out of the discussion and stop distracting the topic. :roll:


You must be wearing your Dominatrix outfit this AM......
 

Sandhusker

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Three liberal posts so far and one about "and" and "in", one about football, and one about kinky sex - but none of them about the topic of the thread. And we wonder how we could elect a man like Obama as President of the US..... :roll:

Now, any liberal comments about the article?
 

kolanuraven

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Sandhusker said:
Three liberal posts so far and one about "and" and "in", one about football, and one about kinky sex - but none of them about the topic of the thread. And we wonder how we could elect a man like Obama as President of the US..... :roll:

Now, any liberal comments about the article?



Ahhhhh.....you know about a Dominatrix.....hmmmmm??????


Makes one wonder ???????? :wink:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Which Commander and which Chief you talking about :???: ...I wasn't aware you knew the navy folks involved personally...

If you do not want to comment on Obama's failure to give the orders to get the Captain out then stay out of the discussion and stop distracting the topic. :roll:

Well if you don't know the difference between the Commander and Chief and the Commander in Chief- there isn't apparently any educated discussion you could bring to this board :wink: :lol:

This Monday Morning quarterbacking of the the Commander in Chief's actions kind of reminds me of why Kansas and Nebraska can't get a decent football team-- all the old has beens and wannabes all seem to know more than the folks in the actual game....



Since the ones that were in the actual game are the ones that are written about in the article (which is the topic of this thread that you are so desparate to distract away from) why don't you comment to what they are saying about their Commander IN Chief. :wink:

BTW Oldtimer it is Sunday not Monday and You go by OLDtimer and you "has been" this and you "has been" that. So the only "Old has been" I know is YOU :lol: :lol: :lol: and you blindly support a wannabe his name is OBAMA. :wink:
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Which Commander and which Chief you talking about :???: ...I wasn't aware you knew the navy folks involved personally...

If you do not want to comment on Obama's failure to give the orders to get the Captain out then stay out of the discussion and stop distracting the topic. :roll:

Well if you don't know the difference between the Commander and Chief and the Commander in Chief- there isn't apparently any educated discussion you could bring to this board :wink: :lol:

This Monday Morning quarterbacking of the the Commander in Chief's actions kind of reminds me of why Kansas and Nebraska can't get a decent football team-- all the old has beens and wannabes all seem to know more than the folks in the actual game....

Kinda like you and the legalities of everything EH?
Kinda like you and the economy EH?
Kinda like you and everything you disagree with EH?

:wink: :wink: :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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Ahem, the topic.....

WASHINGTON – While Barack Obama is basking in praise for his "decisive" handling of the Somali pirate attack on a merchant ship in the India Ocean, reliable military sources close to the scene are painting a much different picture of the incident – accusing the president of employing restrictive rules of engagement that actually hampered the rescue of Capt. Richard Phillips and extended the drama at sea for days.

Multiple opportunities to free the captain of the Maersk Alabama from three young pirates were missed, these sources say – all because a Navy SEAL team was not immediately ordered to the scene and then forced to operate under strict, non-lethal rules of engagement.

They say the response duty office at the Pentagon was initially unwilling to grant an order to use lethal force to rescue Phillips. They also report the White House refused to authorize deployment of a Navy SEAL team to the location for 36 hours, despite the recommendation of the on-scene commander.

The White House also turned down two rescue plans offered up by the Seal commander on the scene and the captain of the USS Bainbridge.

The SEAL team operated under rules of engagement that required them to do nothing unless the hostage's life was in "imminent' danger.

In fact, when the USS Bainbridge dispatched a rigid-hull inflatable boat to bring supplies to the Maersk Alabama, it came under fire that could not be returned even though the SEAL team had the pirates in their sights.

Many hours before the fatal shots were fired, taking out the three young pirates, Phillips jumped into the Indian Ocean with the idea of giving the snipers a clear target. However, the SEAL team was still under orders not to shoot.

Hours later, frustrated by the missed opportunities to resolve the standoff, the commander of the Bainbridge and the captain of the Navy SEAL team determined they had operational authority to evaluate the risk to the hostage, and took out the pirates at the first opportunity – finally freeing Phillips.
 

kolanuraven

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Even Bernard Goldberg....and BIG TIME Rep and anti Obama person said in a recent interview that , " we have got to quit finding fault with EVERYTHING this man does".
 

Sandhusker

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kolanuraven said:
Even Bernard Goldberg....and BIG TIME Rep and anti Obama person said in a recent interview that , " we have got to quit finding fault with EVERYTHING this man does".

So we should follow the example you set with Bush?

How about a comment on the article? Do you think Obama handled the situation well? If the article is true, I find it very disturbing, both in his actions (or lack thereof), and the story presented to us in the press.
 

aplusmnt

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Sandhusker said:
kolanuraven said:
Even Bernard Goldberg....and BIG TIME Rep and anti Obama person said in a recent interview that , " we have got to quit finding fault with EVERYTHING this man does".

So we should follow the example you set with Bush?

How about a comment on the article? Do you think Obama handled the situation well? If the article is true, I find it very disturbing, both in his actions (or lack thereof), and the story presented to us in the press.

I agree, if the story is true. Obama should have said to those in charge at the scene do any and all things to secure the Captain safely. He should have never tied their hands or ordered a hit he should have given them the opportunity to do as they see fit. If he did tie their hands he turned it into a political situation instead of a rescue one.
 
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