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Military Website poll on revocation of orders, Major Cook

hypocritexposer

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As far as the conduct of the "anti-Obama GI" goes . . .

. . . I'd need to see the long-form birth certificate before I followed any of Obama's orders too.

. . . he should be discharged for dereliction of duty. And the Army should be ashamed to have him wearing the uniform.

. . . it's obviously a lot of political posturing, as usual. Wake me up when something important happens.

See the results.

http://www.military.com/pollresults?poll_frame_src=/votingpoll/vote.do&poll_id=4641&option=4701

Anybody that doesn't think this is creating waves, needs to check out the results.

story
http://www.military.com/news/article/anti-obama-gis-afghan-orders-revoked.html
 

hypocritexposer

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Not saying all the votes on the poll are Serving members of the Military, but what would it mean if 20 or 30% questioned the Constitutional eligibility of Obama to be commander in Chief and were all discharged?

And to have Major Cook be fired from his civilian job, is also creating waves.
 

hypocritexposer

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July 15, 2009

Admiral Michael Mullen, CJCS
General James E Cartwright USMC, VCJCS
General George W. Casey, Jr. USA
Admiral Gary Roughead, USN
General Norton A. Schwartz, USAF
General James T. Conway, USMC

Gentlemen:

We are now in a situation where those who desire to extricate themselves from the War On Terror, or any other military obligation, may do so by challenging their orders. All one needs to do is question the legitimacy of the alleged president, Soetoro, and they are immediately released. What will you do if all the military want to know the truth? What will you do then? Should not they expect their orders to be legal? Every person in the military should resist, barring absolute proof. If only our military had hundreds of thousands of others with Major Stefan Frederick Cook’s bravery.

Show us, gentlemen, that you, too, have that bravery. Show the American People that you are not just armchair generals, fat and incompetent, happy to collect your paychecks, waiting to retire. Show us that you indeed have some testicular fortitude and the ‘guts’ for which our military is known. Show us you give a damn.

You cannot allow this wound to fester. It is Soetoro, at the top, who must prove himself. Not the other way around. With every damn ‘i’ dotted, and ‘t’ crossed; all the way back to August 4, 1961, from Kenya, to Hawaii, to Indonesia, the passports, the Selective Service application, through school. All of it. ALL OF IT.

The American People cannot depend on Robert Gates. He has licked every boot he ever encountered, for administrations reaching back to when he first joined the CIA. Suckling at the government teat for one’s entire adult life tends to alter the ego, mettle, and judgment. He is worthless.

At one time, there were hopes for Colin Powell. I cannot believe I wrote, begging McCain to put him on the ticket, as V.P., last fall. It turns out he is merely a sycophantic racist; one who now has regrets, or ‘concerns‘. As if that will help this country now. That moron helped put the U.S. on the road to hell.

Congress, for the most part, is nothing but a miserable pathetic collection of spineless, weak political slugs of the lowest order. They thrive only in their own sewage, secreting their vile mucus in every direction, politically apophallating each other. Possibly you can discern my measurement of Congress’ usefulness.

To keep this drip from becoming a torrent, you must demand that Soetoro prove his legitimacy, once and for all. First, he should be a citizen of the United States, incredibly, even that is questionable. But, to be president, he must have two citizen parents. He can be given the benefit of the doubt on the other two requirements. World leaders and intelligence agencies know he is a fraud. Foreign populations have been informed by their media, and know him to be a fraud. Our own CIA and FBI know he is a fraud. Millions of Americans know he is a fraud. Major Cook knows he is a fraud. I’m of the opinion you gentlemen also know he is a fraud.

Honduras. Could this tiny, poor, third world DEMOCRACY be a model for the United States of America? I can’t believe I just wrote that down. Yet that country was not going to allow a president usurp power he did not constitutionally possess, as we have. The Honduran Army was forced to step in and correct the situation, and immediately turn over the reins of power to legitimate officeholders. Their military were true leaders. A coups? No. A correction.

You could achieve the same thing by demanding honesty, truth, and transparency of Soetoro. Demand his bona fides. Prove to the American People that you are leaders. Prove to the American People that you are patriots worthy of the medals on your chests. Or return them as undeserved.

We learn, today, that DOD’s Defense Security Services Agency has demanded that Simtech CEO, Larry Grice, terminate Major Stefan Frederick Cook, and that his security clearances have been revoked. Despicable mistreatment of a true hero. What about the very idea that the military must follow legal orders? How the hell do they know the orders are legal if they don’t ask? Doesn’t this violate the whistle blower protections afforded anybody who works for the government? Yes, soldiers who work for the military, work for the government.

This hero, Major Cook, swore to uphold the Constitution, not a phony president. For doing his job, for protecting the Constitution, he is felled, as if by an enemy bullet, but it turns out to be friendly fire. The despicable coward who ordered this treatment of him should be hanged. By destroying Cook, an illegal order is executed; exactly what Cook was trying to avoid.

He is the hero, the patriot, you gentlemen will never be.

Yours very truly,



cc: Major Stefan Frederick Cook, Dr. Orly Taitz, the press, Pelosi, Reid, McCain, McConnell, Gates, Powell, Members of the House and Senate Armed Services Committees, Soetoro.
 

Ben H

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They actually started talking about this on the radio show out of Boston yesterday afternoon. It will be interesting if Beck will pick this up, a couple months ago he flipped out on a caller saying "ENOUGH WITH THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE." He won't discuss it. He did say right after the elections that if he was removed from office, due to not being eligible, then the violent uprising could be very extreme. The uprising would be from his supporters. With the poll numbers starting to go down and more people having second thoughts, then maybe it wouldn't be as bad as if it it happened back in February.

The major is perfectly willing to deploy to Afghanistan, he claims that if he is there due to an unlawful order that he would not be subject to the Geneva Convention if captured. I know you can argue that the enemy doesn't follow it anyway.

This is about a bigger issue, first of all lets get it clear that soldiers are not supposed to follow orders no matter what. You swear an oath to protect and defend the constitution. Not the government, not the people, not the office of the president. You are required under the UCMJ to obey all LAWFUL orders. It is a crime, one you can be punished for, to obey unlawful orders. You can not use the excuse "I was just following orders."

This major is simply asking for this issue to be settled and for the POTUS to prove he meets the requirement to be the POTUS. The military cancelled the orders, they can't prove the POTUS is qualified to be in office.

We're not asking for a lot, just one document and this will all be over. Why has almost 1 million been spent on lawyers to keep this brushed to the side? Why has all the presidents school records been sealed? The whole thing doesn't look good at all. Shut everyone up and show the certificate.

I found this website with a google search discussing lawful vs. unlawful orders.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders.htm
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
Not saying all the votes on the poll are Serving members of the Military, but what would it mean if 20 or 30% questioned the Constitutional eligibility of Obama to be commander in Chief and were all discharged?

And to have Major Cook be fired from his civilian job, is also creating waves.

Wonder how many actually voted. If it's only about 10, then 52% of that is 5. I don't think discharging 5 would hurt much. Then let's say 100 voted...52% of that is 50. That's definitely more than 5, but that's not enough to cause widespread panic. :roll: :roll:

How many military service people voted, Hypocrite?

Alice
 

Sandhusker

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alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
Not saying all the votes on the poll are Serving members of the Military, but what would it mean if 20 or 30% questioned the Constitutional eligibility of Obama to be commander in Chief and were all discharged?

And to have Major Cook be fired from his civilian job, is also creating waves.

Wonder how many actually voted. If it's only about 10, then 52% of that is 5. I don't think discharging 5 would hurt much. Then let's say 100 voted...52% of that is 50. That's definitely more than 5, but that's not enough to cause widespread panic. :roll: :roll:

How many military service people voted, Hypocrite?

Alice

If they are right, one is enough.

Why are you providing cover for this guy, Alice?
 

alice

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
Not saying all the votes on the poll are Serving members of the Military, but what would it mean if 20 or 30% questioned the Constitutional eligibility of Obama to be commander in Chief and were all discharged?

And to have Major Cook be fired from his civilian job, is also creating waves.

Wonder how many actually voted. If it's only about 10, then 52% of that is 5. I don't think discharging 5 would hurt much. Then let's say 100 voted...52% of that is 50. That's definitely more than 5, but that's not enough to cause widespread panic. :roll: :roll:

How many military service people voted, Hypocrite?

Alice

If they are right, one is enough.

Why are you providing cover for this guy, Alice?

Why won't Hypocrite answer the question? How many military service people voted, Hypocrite? Where is the evidence that more than a few voted, Hypocrite? Bring it, Hypocrite!

Alice
 

per

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alice said:
Sandhusker said:
alice said:
Wonder how many actually voted. If it's only about 10, then 52% of that is 5. I don't think discharging 5 would hurt much. Then let's say 100 voted...52% of that is 50. That's definitely more than 5, but that's not enough to cause widespread panic. :roll: :roll:

How many military service people voted, Hypocrite?

Alice

If they are right, one is enough.

Why are you providing cover for this guy, Alice?

Why won't Hypocrite answer the question? How many military service people voted, Hypocrite? Where is the evidence that more than a few voted, Hypocrite? Bring it, Hypocrite!

Alice

Why doesn't your guy bring the evidence, Alice?
 

Ben H

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Military.com is a very large forum, it has many currently serving soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen as well as veterans. A friend of mine is a moderator, I just emailed him to see if he can find out how many voted. I would say this is a good representation of how the military feels.
 

alice

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per said:
alice said:
Sandhusker said:
If they are right, one is enough.

Why are you providing cover for this guy, Alice?

Why won't Hypocrite answer the question? How many military service people voted, Hypocrite? Where is the evidence that more than a few voted, Hypocrite? Bring it, Hypocrite!

Alice

Why doesn't your guy bring the evidence, Alice?

He already has...and it has been vetted...and accepted. To bring forth this "evidence," as inciters like Hypocrite like to call it, would acknowledge this half baked conspiracy, which is exactly what the inciters want, so they can then dismiss the evidence as fraudulent and keep this ridiculous nonsense going. AND, inciters like $Hypocrite$ need this to continue on...

Alice
 

alice

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per said:
If that is the case why not show it again and put everyone out the their misery?

I think it would simply prolong the misery...because the "birthers" and inciters, like $Hypocrite$, have no intention of accepting it. They will continue to holler "fraud" and will keep this going, and going, and going....

Alice
 

Ben H

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I ignored this for a while, but the more I learn the more it stinks. Top that with the actions the military has taken makes you really need to step back and take another look.
 

TexasBred

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alice said:
per said:
If that is the case why not show it again and put everyone out the their misery?

I think it would simply prolong the misery...because the "birthers" and inciters, like $Hypocrite$, have no intention of accepting it. They will continue to holler "fraud" and will keep this going, and going, and going....

Alice

Alice why would anybody spend as much on attorney fees as barracko has spent to keep something from the public unless he was hiding something? Seems only HE is exempt. As for vetting....those doing the vetting found only what they were given to find...nothing more. Seems the real vetting is being done by these folks now doing the questioning and the problem could be solved so easily...... make the long form birth certificate available to the public, hold a new conference (without teleprompters and a hand picked audience) and talk to the American people. We have a right to know.
 

backhoeboogie

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Ben H said:
I ignored this for a while, but the more I learn the more it stinks. Top that with the actions the military has taken makes you really need to step back and take another look.

The military is being purged - plain and simple. Freedom of speech amongst the military has been extremely compromised. Examples have been and are being made of those in the upper food chain.
 

Tam

Well-known member
alice said:
per said:
alice said:
Why won't Hypocrite answer the question? How many military service people voted, Hypocrite? Where is the evidence that more than a few voted, Hypocrite? Bring it, Hypocrite!

Alice

Why doesn't your guy bring the evidence, Alice?

He already has...and it has been vetted...and accepted. To bring forth this "evidence," as inciters like Hypocrite like to call it, would acknowledge this half baked conspiracy, which is exactly what the inciters want, so they can then dismiss the evidence as fraudulent and keep this ridiculous nonsense going. AND, inciters like $Hypocrite$ need this to continue on...

Alice

If this guy was properly vetted as you claim it shouldn't be hard for you to locate and provide us with this information. I'll even make it easy on you, besides the first on the list which is a must , you can pick any one out of the other five.
Come on Alice you say he provided evidence LET'S SEE IT. :?

Here is a list,
1. Long form Birth Certificate not the short form that was on the internet as it was examined by experts and found to be a forgery. Besides, it wasn't the long form that actually proves he was born in a Hawaiian hospital, what he provided can easily be obtained for a foreign child. We need the LONG FORM

2. His grade school records from Indonesia listing his citizenship that got him into an Citizen only school. With an explanation on how he attended the school as a US citizen if it list he is a US citizen.

3. College records With the name he attend under and whether he attending using foreign student aid or not.

4. The Passport that he used to travel to a country that banned US citizens in the 80's. And if he traveled on a US passport how was he admitted to Pakistan?

5. How about his papers where he denounced his Indonesia citizenship.

6. If he was vetted then Sworn testimony from the government authority that actually vetted him.

No name calling or fluff comments just the evidence you claim he provided :wink:
 
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