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Mine Disaster

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Anonymous

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Been watching the events unfold in the attempted rescue of the coalminers in Utah-- so tragic....Another mini quake or something while the rescue miners were working to clear the shaft-- 8 or 9 injured--2 dead now....

I'll tell you what- that takes cajones to go down in that hole to rescue those folks with all the continuing cave-ins and quakes...They say the mountain is continually shifting....

Ain't enough money in the whole country to get me down one of those holes ......
 

Mrs.Greg

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Oldtimer said:
Been watching the events unfold in the attempted rescue of the coalminers in Utah-- so tragic....Another mini quake or something while the rescue miners were working to clear the shaft-- 8 or 9 injured--2 dead now....

I'll tell you what- that takes cajones to go down in that hole to rescue those folks with all the continuing cave-ins and quakes...They say the mountain is continually shifting....

Ain't enough money in the whole country to get me down one of those holes ......
The mine rescuers are dead??O gosh that makes me sick to my tummy,gregs a EMR on our mine rescue team.This has just been a sad situation all around :cry:
 
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Mrs.Greg said:
Oldtimer said:
Been watching the events unfold in the attempted rescue of the coalminers in Utah-- so tragic....Another mini quake or something while the rescue miners were working to clear the shaft-- 8 or 9 injured--2 dead now....

I'll tell you what- that takes cajones to go down in that hole to rescue those folks with all the continuing cave-ins and quakes...They say the mountain is continually shifting....

Ain't enough money in the whole country to get me down one of those holes ......
The mine rescuers are dead??O gosh that makes me sick to my tummy,gregs a EMR on our mine rescue team.This has just been a sad situation all around :cry:

My hats off to Greg-- cause thats something I could never get myself to do--too claustrophobic...I had to crawl up and down thru a smoke training trailer once with SCBA gear on-- got lost, hung up (I have 54 inch shoulders) and claustrophobia started setting in-- I just kicked the whole side out of their trailer and walked out...Kind of fouled up the training for awhile... The fire chief decided I should not be one of the inside men-- just keep me around in case they needed any doors kicked in....

Yep this is bad...Talk that they may not be able to do much more to rescue/recover the trapped miners until all the seismic activity settles down.....

Now at midnite-- they are saying 3 are dead...... :cry: :cry:
 

Mrs.Greg

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I hear you OT,I get claustrophobic just watching him in the bunker gear and air mask.Hes also a rigger{goes off high and repels} and firefighter on the team,I'm really proad of him,hes good at it,not bragging, just a fact.

I'm very sad about the miners and the rescue team,and the family and friends involved in this disaster,it hits home :( Prayers for all involved :(
 

newmexicobound

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I just heard on our local news here that they may have to stop all rescue efforts now.
I don't get any of the big news channels so I don't know if it's true.
What a decision to have to make :cry:
so sad to think 6 may never be recovered, but how many rescuers do you put in danger? I do not envy whomever has to make that final decision. I hate to say it but I think I would have to quit my job :oops:
 

HAY MAKER

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Yes 3 dead and 6 injured,Im like Old Timer ,aint enough money in the world to get me under ground.
This Hill country is full of caves and the so called bat tunnel just down the road,that always draw crowds,just never did understand why ?
I have a small opening on the side of a hill on the north end of the place that bats just pour out of in the evenings,one of my neighbors said you oughta try and dig out the opening ,see whats in there..........nope,aint interested.
good luck
 

meat_fire

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I am with you Hay Maker, I sure would not want to work in a mine. I really do respect the guys that do. I hate to think of what the fanmilies of those miners are going through now. I been praying for a happy ending for everyone out there, but that sure looks doubtfull now
 

Mrs.Greg

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Our area used to have quite a few underground mines,all closed down now. We just have surface mining in our area now,the one hubby is a rescuer on. I was talking to some of our old timers yesterday,in thier 80's,theres a mine not too far from us that caved in and the bodies were never recovered,that the boys buriel ground :( Sad ,but I'm thinking instead of risking anymore lives for what I believe is only a recovery not a rescue now,that they're going to have to let this be these boys buriel ground :cry:
 
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Yep-- I agree Mrs. Greg...

That must be some really high quality coal they were mining- to make it worth the risk and cost of going that deep into a mountain....Especially when there is thousands of acres of coal that can be open pit mined...

I still think we are missing the boat by not putting more effort into finding clean ways to utilize all the coal that is in the US- since we have the greatest reserves of any country in the world...
In the articles I've read there is enough coal in the US to generate electricity for the whole country (counting population increases) for anywhere from 300-600 years...Something like 250 thousand million tons..
 

meat_fire

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Mrs Greg, I hear what you saying to not risk any more lives in a recovery mission. I agree in part but I just feel for those families. It is a very very hard call for those in charge to make.

Being a Vol fireman for about 20 years, it was always hard for me to accept the fact "we failed" even though in many cases there was no chance at all when we got there. even recovering bodies on a suicide call left us all with a feeling of lost.

Maybe they will come up with a new approach and at least be able to recover the bodies. I do feel with the amount of time they been in there and no any sign of life, it is probably a recovery mission by now, but if I was one of the family I doubt you could convince me of that. Maybe a miracle will happen
 

Mrs.Greg

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I so get what your saying meatfire,it must be so hard on those families and now they'll have guilt,no matter how wrong that is on top of thier personal loses. I'm gathering that the Utah community is alot like ours,small and know everyone in the mine and on the rescue team,if this continues,thier will be more loses.I agree I hope there is a miracle but everyday that goes by it gets less likely. :cry:
 

greg

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Oldtimer said:
Yep-- I agree Mrs. Greg...

That must be some really high quality coal they were mining- to make it worth the risk and cost of going that deep into a mountain....Especially when there is thousands of acres of coal that can be open pit mined...

I still think we are missing the boat by not putting more effort into finding clean ways to utilize all the coal that is in the US- since we have the greatest reserves of any country in the world...
In the articles I've read there is enough coal in the US to generate electricity for the whole country (counting population increases) for anywhere from 300-600 years...Something like 250 thousand million tons..
Coal IS getting more important-now getting into gasification here- so new uses,But they do need to keep looking for lost in my opinion
 
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Anonymous

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We had all kinds of folks poking their noses around this country early this spring...Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) owns large tracts of land just south of the Missouri that have huge reserves of coal...They were talking about building a big coal gasification plant-- for the railroads train needs plus they wanted to try and get a couple other companies to go in with them...
Surveyors and folks were running around everywhere-- but since the govt stuck all this money/support behind ethanol & making gas out of corn and grain- I haven't heard much......
 

IL Rancher

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Heck, when they were building the local Ethanol plant they hit a coal vein when drilling the test wells.. ACtaully, hit a big one.. There is so much coal around it is not even funny. Most of Illinois, if not all of it's shallow ones are mined out but there is deep coal all over the place and lots of it.. Some real deep oil too down south... One of the places we looked at had a test well drilled and they were all secret about it.. Rumour was the find was just to deep to make work at what prices were back than,,,
 

Mrs.Greg

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Theres a trainer that comes to Painthearth mine to train the newbies on dragline...hes from Illinois,gregs come to think alot of him.
 
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