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Anonymous

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"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."

George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000
 

loomixguy

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Oldtimer said:
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."

George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

There you go again....hating on rich folks. I always found that rich folks could teach a person a lot, if you were patient. It must really suck to be you and be so filled with hatred for anybody successful.
 

Mike

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loomixguy said:
Oldtimer said:
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."

George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

There you go again....hating on rich folks. I always found that rich folks could teach a person a lot, if you were patient. It must really suck to be you and be so filled with hatred for anybody successful.

Oh he was successful. Successful in sitting around eating and making his azz as wide as a truck. :lol:
 

Steve

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Nothing Romney could say, would compare to what Obama does...

(Update: In a second schedule update issued around 10:42 a.m. on Wednesday, the White House indicated that President Obama would continue with his campaign trip to Las Vegas after issuing a statement on events in Libya and Egypt in the Rose Garden.

The only change in the updated schedule is this: "Shortly after (the Rose Garden statement), the President and Secretary Clinton will visit the State Department in Washington, DC. This visit is closed press." The updated schedule still states that "In the afternoon, the President will depart the White House en route Las Vegas, Nevada.")

(CNSNews.com) - On the day after the U.S. Ambassador to Libya and three other Americans were killed in Benghazi, the White House on Wednesday morning released a schedule showing that President Obama would continue with his planned campaign trip to Las Vegas.

No one can be this crass.
 

TexasBred

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beethoven said:
glad to be independant. you are free to vote for anyone you wish. no matter to me. sitting back and enjoying the show.

After hearing it I'm even more solid behind Romney. The man was giving pure facts. You may not like them but they are still facts.

What was not shown in the first edition of the film but shown latter was Romney admitting that "I was born with "a silver spoon'...."I was born in America". :agree:
 

katrina

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TexasBred said:
beethoven said:
glad to be independant. you are free to vote for anyone you wish. no matter to me. sitting back and enjoying the show.

After hearing it I'm even more solid behind Romney. The man was giving pure facts. You may not like them but they are still facts.

What was not shown in the first edition of the film but shown latter was Romney admitting that "I was born with "a silver spoon'...."I was born in America". :agree:


:agree:
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."

George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

Caught again you old fart....this dinner is where politicians relax, poke fun at each other and enjoy themselves...here is some more of the funnies.

The presidential candidates came well-armed with jokes, often poking fun at themselves.

Bush gazed around the diamond-studded $800-a-plate crowd and commented on the wealth on display.

"This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores," quipped the GOP standard-bearer. "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base."

Gore chose to allude to his debate style and the silliness of some political catch phrases, including one of his favorites: putting Social Security "in a lockbox."

"I'll put Medicaid in a walk-in closet," joked the vice president. "I will always keep lettuce in the crisper."

He brought down the house with another remark, about his strategy of using "real people" to illustrate policy points. Gore talked about a "woman who's here tonight, whose husband is about to lose his job. She's struggling to get out of public housing and get a job of her own. Hillary Clinton, I want to fight for you!"
 
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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
"This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."

George W Bush, Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York, 19th October 2000

Caught again you old fart....this dinner is where politicians relax, poke fun at each other and enjoy themselves...here is some more of the funnies.

The presidential candidates came well-armed with jokes, often poking fun at themselves.

Bush gazed around the diamond-studded $800-a-plate crowd and commented on the wealth on display.

"This is an impressive crowd - the haves and the have-mores," quipped the GOP standard-bearer. "Some people call you the elites; I call you my base."

Gore chose to allude to his debate style and the silliness of some political catch phrases, including one of his favorites: putting Social Security "in a lockbox."

"I'll put Medicaid in a walk-in closet," joked the vice president. "I will always keep lettuce in the crisper."

He brought down the house with another remark, about his strategy of using "real people" to illustrate policy points. Gore talked about a "woman who's here tonight, whose husband is about to lose his job. She's struggling to get out of public housing and get a job of her own. Hillary Clinton, I want to fight for you!"


Steve- it was a major campaign stop/fundraiser amongst millionaires- just like Romneys was.... Looking more and more like clones born with silver spoons in their mouths each day...
 
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Anonymous

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Romney: 47 Percent Dependent on Government


In 2008, then-candidate Barack Obama said people had been so beaten down by the (Bush) economy that they "get bitter and they cling to guns or religion," not realizing that it was being recorded. He took a tremendous amount of flack for that. Now it appears to be Romney's turn. Yesterday it came out that earlier this year he said: "47% of Americans are dependent on government." He added that there was no way he could win those votes and wouldn't try. He also said they "believe they are victims." Obama's campaign manager, Jim Messina, reacted immediately with: "It is hard to serve as President for all Americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation."

Romney made his comments openly to a group of wealthy donors, probably most of whom agreed with him. What he didn't realize, of course, was that someone in the audience was recording it. The video is now online.

When it became clear this was going to be the dominant news story today (see NYT, LAT, CSM, The Hill, Reuters, Fox News, and Chicago Tribune, for example). Romney responded by saying his remarks "were not elegantly stated" and he had spoken "off the cuff." He didn't attempt to retract the message, however.

The fact checkers are going to have a field day with this one. Clearly government employees, soldiers, veterans, people on Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, people who have gotten Small Business Administration loans, people who work for government contractors or companies the government bailed out (like banks and GM) are at least somewhat dependent on government. Whether that is 47% of the population is something else. The danger for Romney is that this story reinforces his image of wanting to be the President for the upper half. Gaffes only matter when they reinforce an existing stereotype and this one does. A report that Romney had an affair with a staffer would get zero attention because nobody would believe it was true.

Also, the literal numbers aside, Romney clearly is thinking that 47% of the population are lazy good-for-nothings (English translation: black and brown people) who are sponging off the hard-working 53% of Americans who work for a living. It is doubtful that he regards a white engineer working for a defense contractor as "dependent on government," although that is true, of course. Here is one report that notes Romney is confusing people who pay no federal income tax (for example, elderly, white Republicans who live only on Social Security) with black welfare mothers. Expect more reports today.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/18/who-are-the-47-percent-7-facts-about-the-americans-mitt-romney-attacked.html

Up until now, many people thought that Romney didn't actually believe any of the stuff he was saying. They thought he was just saying it to appease his base. Now many people are going to think he really has disdain for much of the population. It makes his path tougher.

The two slip-ups show how the culture wars underlie everything in American politics. Many Democrats think Republicans are living in the dark ages, sacrificing goats to bring the sun back during an eclipse. Many Republicans think that Democrats are parasites on society who occasionally get out of their hammocks to go kill an unborn baby. It is hard to find common ground on anything when people's world views are so far apart.



So who exactly are these people “who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them?” Here, seven noteworthy facts about the 47 percent.
Most are taxpayers…
The dangerous misconception of the 47 percent argument, according to Kevin Roose writing in New York magazine, Daily Kos’s Jed Lewison, and the Washington Post’s Brad Plummer, is that it is too often misinterpreted to mean that 47 percent of households pay no taxes at all, that they’re freeloaders. But the truth is that only 18.1 percent of households pay no taxtwo thirds of the households that pay no income tax still pay payroll tax. (Many, says Plummer, actually pay it at higher rates than Romney.)


…And future income tax payers
As Matthew Schmitz points out at First Things, in addition to most of the 47 percenters paying sales tax, property tax, and payroll tax, most of them also will begin paying income tax—the very thing Romney blasts them for not paying—within two years.

Many are elderly
Just over 10 percent of those paying no federal income tax are retired or elderly, according to the Tax Policy Center. As Roose at New York magazine points out, Social Security benefits aren’t considered taxable income, so if most or all of an elderly person’s income is from Social Security, he or she has no income tax to pay. “Romney is conflating the people who pay no net income tax with the people so dependent on government aid that they have to vote for Obama,” says David Weigel at Slate. “But these aren’t the same people!” In fact, elderly voters voted heavily Republican in the 2010 elections.

As stated- I know of no one- who in one way or another- directly or indirectly that doesn't pay taxes....

So is Romney now considering the retired and elderly on SSI and the government pensioned like the military who worked hard for those pensions as being in the same class as the welfare mothers... :???:
The man definitely needs to get some real world experience...
 

Faster horses

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Oldtimer said:
Romney: 47 Percent Dependent on Government


In 2008, then-candidate Barack Obama said people had been so beaten down by the (Bush) economy that they "get bitter and they cling to guns or religion," not realizing that it was being recorded. He took a tremendous amount of flack for that. Now it appears to be Romney's turn. Yesterday it came out that earlier this year he said: "47% of Americans are dependent on government." He added that there was no way he could win those votes and wouldn't try. He also said they "believe they are victims." Obama's campaign manager, Jim Messina, reacted immediately with: "It is hard to serve as President for all Americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation."

Romney made his comments openly to a group of wealthy donors, probably most of whom agreed with him. What he didn't realize, of course, was that someone in the audience was recording it. The video is now online.

When it became clear this was going to be the dominant news story today (see NYT, LAT, CSM, The Hill, Reuters, Fox News, and Chicago Tribune, for example). Romney responded by saying his remarks "were not elegantly stated" and he had spoken "off the cuff." He didn't attempt to retract the message, however.

The fact checkers are going to have a field day with this one. Clearly government employees, soldiers, veterans, people on Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, people who have gotten Small Business Administration loans, people who work for government contractors or companies the government bailed out (like banks and GM) are at least somewhat dependent on government. Whether that is 47% of the population is something else. The danger for Romney is that this story reinforces his image of wanting to be the President for the upper half. Gaffes only matter when they reinforce an existing stereotype and this one does. A report that Romney had an affair with a staffer would get zero attention because nobody would believe it was true.

Also, the literal numbers aside, Romney clearly is thinking that 47% of the population are lazy good-for-nothings (English translation: black and brown people) who are sponging off the hard-working 53% of Americans who work for a living. It is doubtful that he regards a white engineer working for a defense contractor as "dependent on government," although that is true, of course. Here is one report that notes Romney is confusing people who pay no federal income tax (for example, elderly, white Republicans who live only on Social Security) with black welfare mothers. Expect more reports today.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/18/who-are-the-47-percent-7-facts-about-the-americans-mitt-romney-attacked.html

Up until now, many people thought that Romney didn't actually believe any of the stuff he was saying. They thought he was just saying it to appease his base. Now many people are going to think he really has disdain for much of the population. It makes his path tougher.

The two slip-ups show how the culture wars underlie everything in American politics. Many Democrats think Republicans are living in the dark ages, sacrificing goats to bring the sun back during an eclipse. Many Republicans think that Democrats are parasites on society who occasionally get out of their hammocks to go kill an unborn baby. It is hard to find common ground on anything when people's world views are so far apart.



So who exactly are these people “who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them?” Here, seven noteworthy facts about the 47 percent.
Most are taxpayers…
The dangerous misconception of the 47 percent argument, according to Kevin Roose writing in New York magazine, Daily Kos’s Jed Lewison, and the Washington Post’s Brad Plummer, is that it is too often misinterpreted to mean that 47 percent of households pay no taxes at all, that they’re freeloaders. But the truth is that only 18.1 percent of households pay no taxtwo thirds of the households that pay no income tax still pay payroll tax. (Many, says Plummer, actually pay it at higher rates than Romney.)


…And future income tax payers
As Matthew Schmitz points out at First Things, in addition to most of the 47 percenters paying sales tax, property tax, and payroll tax, most of them also will begin paying income tax—the very thing Romney blasts them for not paying—within two years.

Many are elderly
Just over 10 percent of those paying no federal income tax are retired or elderly, according to the Tax Policy Center. As Roose at New York magazine points out, Social Security benefits aren’t considered taxable income, so if most or all of an elderly person’s income is from Social Security, he or she has no income tax to pay. “Romney is conflating the people who pay no net income tax with the people so dependent on government aid that they have to vote for Obama,” says David Weigel at Slate. “But these aren’t the same people!” In fact, elderly voters voted heavily Republican in the 2010 elections.

As stated- I know of no one- who in one way or another- directly or indirectly that doesn't pay taxes....

So is Romney now considering the retired and elderly on SSI and the government pensioned like the military who worked hard for those pensions as being in the same class as the welfare mothers... :???:
The man definitely needs to get some real world experience...

And Obama doesn't? I'd say he's more out in left field than Romney.
You can't have all those kids and not be in the real world. They'll
humble their parents many times, doesn't matter who you are.
 

Steve

Well-known member
I think you have your pasting mixed up again,... :lol:

Steve- it was a major campaign stop/fundraiser amongst millionaires- just like Romneys was.... Looking more and more like clones born with silver spoons in their mouths each day...

NO there is a difference... Obama decided that money was better then decadency..

So is Romney now considering the retired and elderly on SSI and the government pensioned like the military who worked hard for those pensions as being in the same class as the welfare mothers.

ya he is a bit liberal isn't he... to liberal for me... :?





Do you remember a few months back... few if anyone on here actually supported Romney.. but the left was convinced he was the only one that was "electable"... and when we presented these same arguments.. against him.. against McCain... all we heard was he is the only one that is electable.. crap.... there were others.. but the media tore them down... just like they are tore McCain apart.. they are now tearing Romney apart.. and would tear Clinton apart to protect their dear leader..

Well now we are stuck with him.. and there is not one rational conservative who doesn't believe that Romney is better then Obama

so .. all the media nitpicking doesn't really matter.. because we ALLsee the economy.. we ALL see the middle east on fire.. we ALL see their dear leader has no clothes..








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