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Mmm Mmm Mmm Barack Hussein

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
Where were the funny parts? I missed them.


the funny part was thinking about those that thought obama was the answer to everything that Bush did wrong, only to watch obama expand on Bush's ideas and policies.

Change is great thing, if you define it first.


what did "Change" mean to you Rammtein7?
 

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
A better quality of life and less war. I'm a patient man, I'm willing to wait.

then you better vote conservative. Conservatives tend to believe in letting people live their lives and not interfereing so much.


the right of the political spectrum means less governmental control and the left is more governmental control, and that includes war.
 

rammtein7

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I'm Pro-Obama mostly for his plans for peace. Personally, I'm for pulling out of the Middle-East never to return and letting them sort out their problems for themselves. Hussein is dead, and Osama Bin Laden (whom we should be out for the most) is nowhere to be seen. Pull out in stages so we don't leave them completely confused and let them deal with their own problems.
 

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
I'm Pro-Obama mostly for his plans for peace. Personally, I'm for pulling out of the Middle-East never to return and letting them sort out their problems for themselves. Hussein is dead, and Osama Bin Laden (whom we should be out for the most) is nowhere to be seen. Pull out in stages so we don't leave them completely confused and let them deal with their own problems.

I believe in pulling out of the Middle East too, but I'm not "pro obama".

His plans for the middle east are minor, compared to domestic issues, when it comes to the amount of impact a President has.

As much as I believe that it was humanitarian to go into Iraq, I also believe that people should take care of themselves.

why should it be up to the US to police other countries when it comes to human rights.

Let them take care of themselves, don't you agree?
 

rammtein7

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hypocritexposer said:
rammtein7 said:
I'm Pro-Obama mostly for his plans for peace. Personally, I'm for pulling out of the Middle-East never to return and letting them sort out their problems for themselves. Hussein is dead, and Osama Bin Laden (whom we should be out for the most) is nowhere to be seen. Pull out in stages so we don't leave them completely confused and let them deal with their own problems.

I believe in pulling out of the Middle East too, but I'm not "pro obama".

His plans for the middle east are minor, compared to domestic issues, when it comes to the amount of impact a President has.

As much as I believe that it was humanitarian to go into Iraq, I also believe that people should take care of themselves.

why should it be up to the US to police other countries when it comes to human rights.

Let them take care of themselves, don't you agree?

I do agree. I have been saying this since we got rid of Hussein, but still lingered in the Mid-East.
 

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
hypocritexposer said:
rammtein7 said:
I'm Pro-Obama mostly for his plans for peace. Personally, I'm for pulling out of the Middle-East never to return and letting them sort out their problems for themselves. Hussein is dead, and Osama Bin Laden (whom we should be out for the most) is nowhere to be seen. Pull out in stages so we don't leave them completely confused and let them deal with their own problems.

I believe in pulling out of the Middle East too, but I'm not "pro obama".

His plans for the middle east are minor, compared to domestic issues, when it comes to the amount of impact a President has.

As much as I believe that it was humanitarian to go into Iraq, I also believe that people should take care of themselves.

why should it be up to the US to police other countries when it comes to human rights.

Let them take care of themselves, don't you agree?

I do agree. I have been saying this since we got rid of Hussein, but still lingered in the Mid-East.

Imagine that, I'm a conservative that is not a war monger!!!
 

rammtein7

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hypocritexposer said:
rammtein7 said:
hypocritexposer said:
I believe in pulling out of the Middle East too, but I'm not "pro obama".

His plans for the middle east are minor, compared to domestic issues, when it comes to the amount of impact a President has.

As much as I believe that it was humanitarian to go into Iraq, I also believe that people should take care of themselves.

why should it be up to the US to police other countries when it comes to human rights.

Let them take care of themselves, don't you agree?

I do agree. I have been saying this since we got rid of Hussein, but still lingered in the Mid-East.

Imagine that, I'm a conservative that is not a war monger!!!

I never stereotyped you as such. Plus, is the war not costing us money that we don't have?
 

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
hypocritexposer said:
rammtein7 said:
I do agree. I have been saying this since we got rid of Hussein, but still lingered in the Mid-East.

Imagine that, I'm a conservative that is not a war monger!!!

I never stereotyped you as such. Plus, is the war not costing us money that we don't have?

Yes!

but sometimes the costs today are less than they will be tomorrow.


Illegal immigration is costing the US at present about "x" dollars,will it increase or decrease in the years to come?
 

rammtein7

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hypocritexposer said:
rammtein7 said:
hypocritexposer said:
Imagine that, I'm a conservative that is not a war monger!!!

I never stereotyped you as such. Plus, is the war not costing us money that we don't have?

Yes!

but sometimes the costs today are less than they will be tomorrow.


Illegal immigration is costing the US at present about "x" dollars,will it increase or decrease in the years to come?

Well, first of all, we really boost the economy if we would cut forign outsoursing and keep our manufacturing facilities domestic, but we can't do because China is making so big a profit off this that we would risk war if we pulled our factories out. You see the dilema?
 

hypocritexposer

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Well, first of all, we really boost the economy if we would cut forign outsoursing and keep our manufacturing facilities domestic, but we can't do because China is making so big a profit off this that we would risk war if we pulled our factories out. You see the dilema?


why do the factories outsource?


I don't think China is profiting that much off of outsourcing, but they may be profiting off of interest payments? Which came first?

why does the US, the strongest economy in the World, need to borrrow money off of China, Saudia etc.?

Why does the US buy oil off the middle east countries before drilling in the US?

Some good questions and when you try to answer them, try to answer what globalization means?

HINT: Redistribution of wealth.
 

rammtein7

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hypocritexposer said:
Well, first of all, we really boost the economy if we would cut forign outsoursing and keep our manufacturing facilities domestic, but we can't do because China is making so big a profit off this that we would risk war if we pulled our factories out. You see the dilema?


why do the factories outsource?


I don't think China is profiting that much off of outsourcing, but they may be profiting off of interest payments? Which came first?

why does the US, the strongest economy in the World, need to borrrow money off of China, Saudia etc.?

Why does the US buy oil off the middle east countries before drilling in the US?

Some good questions and when you try to answer them, try to answer what globalization means?

HINT: Redistribution of wealth.

Companies outsourse because it will save them a buck in the long haul, but just cutting 5 million, ONLY 5 million mind you, cost the economy approximatly $940 million. Let me be the first to admit that this is a conservative stance. I have no problem admitting that. My own personal thought is that we can have a good relationship with the rest of the world and still keep our jobs in country. Sell our goods, not our jobs.
 

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
hypocritexposer said:
Well, first of all, we really boost the economy if we would cut forign outsoursing and keep our manufacturing facilities domestic, but we can't do because China is making so big a profit off this that we would risk war if we pulled our factories out. You see the dilema?


why do the factories outsource?


I don't think China is profiting that much off of outsourcing, but they may be profiting off of interest payments? Which came first?

why does the US, the strongest economy in the World, need to borrrow money off of China, Saudia etc.?

Why does the US buy oil off the middle east countries before drilling in the US?

Some good questions and when you try to answer them, try to answer what globalization means?

HINT: Redistribution of wealth.

Companies outsourse because it will save them a buck in the long haul, but just cutting 5 million, ONLY 5 million mind you, cost the economy approximatly $940 million. Let me be the first to admit that this is a conservative stance. I have no problem admitting that. My own personal thought is that we can have a good relationship with the rest of the world and still keep our jobs in country. Sell our goods, not our jobs.


$5 million in taxes or wages?


Are you saying that if the US Government cut taxes to a company by $5 Million, it would reap benefits of $940 Million?

Wow, you make a good argument for cutting the taxes on these companies.


HINT:
Taxes make a bigger dent in company profits than wages.
 

hypocritexposer

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rammtein7 said:
My bad, 5 million jobs. Forgot the most important part.

okay, so let's say 5 million jobs @ savings of $15/hour.

I'll let you figure out the tax savings and all the other benefits that foreign governments provide for setting up shop in their Countries.

If the US wants to compete, then start competing.


The US sits back and whines and that's as far as it goes. I think they are more interested in spreading the wealth than creating additional weatlh that could be re-distributed through aid.


Do you know how many businesses have moved to Canada in the last few years when we have dropped our corporate tax rate?

We sit back in our igloos and watch what is going on and take advantage.; I'm sure other Countries do too. How is our unemployment rate doing?

One of the most obvious problems with the US is that they refuse to learn from others. The number one comment has to be something like "what does it matter to you, you're a Kanuck"
 

per

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That brings up an interesting point about voting. How many Americans don't vote in an election? How many are engaged in things political?
 
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