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Tam

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Has anyone heard from Oldtimer today or is he in Belgrade heading up the security for Obama. Somebody should tell him the WH were hoping to have a few heckler in Montana as they didn't have any in NH and that town hall looked to staged to be real. I doubt Oldtimer will be allowing any hecklers within ear shot of "THE MAN". Nothing like bringing the kids along to keep the mob from getting to hot and heavy. Maybe Oldtimer will be babysitting the girls. :wink:
 

MsSage

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LOL from what I have heard his pallne will pull into a hanger he will get out then talk to a "crowd" then back in the plane and fly off

Yeah Tam I wondered about if OT would be there LOL seems he is not here so I bet so :roll:
 

Tam

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He is naming off everyone that is at the townhall but I guess Oldtimer is not as important in Montana as he would have us believe as Obama didn't put a call out for him to stand up and take a bow. :cry: :? :wink: :lol:

Michelle and the girls are to be going White water rafting but it is raining so Obama doesn't know what they are doing while he is lying to the crowd. (Oh I mean speaking to the crowd) :oops:
 

Tam

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MsSage said:
Where are you listening to that?

On Fox

And he just lied to the crowd. He said he was going to pay for 2/3 of his plan with cuts from the existing plan but CBO said this less than a month ago.

Kent Conrad: Dr. Elmendorf, I am going to really put you on the spot because we are in the middle of this health care debate, but it is critically important that we get this right. Everyone has said, virtually everyone, that bending the cost curve over time is critically important and one of the key goals of this entire effort. From what you have seen from the products of the committees that have reported, do you see a successful effort being mounted to bend the long-term cost curve?

Elmendorf: No, Mr. Chairman. In the legislation that has been reported we do not see the sort of fundamental changes that would be necessary to reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount. And on the contrary, the legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health care costs.

He also said that the bill would cost about $800 billion over ten years but the CBO puts the cost well over a Trillion.

I would hope someone in the crowd would have read the what the CBO said and ask him ab out the different in estimates of cost.
 

hypocritexposer

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MsSage said:
I found it and I couldnt listen long .......This is SUPPOSE to be where we the people TALK NOT HIM

and you thought he really wanted to hear from "we the people"?

you're crazy MsSage :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I know, I know, that's twice :p :p
 

Tam

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MsSage said:
I found it and I couldnt listen long .......This is SUPPOSE to be where we the people TALK NOT HIM

I guess he wasn't listening even to himself as he said he would keep the answers short. If that was short I would love to know what he figures is LONG and BORING.
 

Faster horses

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Did you get to hear the guy from Ekalaka, Mt. nail him on raising taxes
to pay for health care reform? That was after he said his name and
that he was an NRA MEMBER. :shock: :shock: It was good and
I'm sure will be aired on Fox this evening or sometime again.

What I'd like to see, is the response from the person asking the
question after Obama supposedly answered. THAT would be
interesting. :p

Too bad he isn't going to visit Wyoming. But I suspect he likes
his hair too much to go there!
 

MsSage

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Alright Hypo if your going to call me crazy PLEASE
Call me BATSHITCRAZY I really do like that one :wink:

Shoer said when the guy said he was an NRA memeber only about 5 people clapped...that told him all he needed to know..the crowd was stacked and he is wondering when the rest of the country will ake up and see that :shock:
 

hypocritexposer

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I didn't really like the answer Obama gave the NRA member.

"record" profits doesn't mean a thing. $10 could be record profits, if you've only ever made $9. the industry profit margins I posted the other day showed a profit margin for Health Plan providers at 3.3%, that's not that much.

What are insurance companies expenses? Salaries for example. What impact do those salaries have on the economy and tax revenue for the government? Are they higher than what the Government would be able to afford to pay?

Do they more than cover the difference that Obama also mentions in his answer about tax deductions?

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/08/nra-member-tells-obama-only-way-he-can.html
 

Faster horses

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Neil Cavuto tried to get some answers about getting the money from the well-to-do would cover 2/3 of the expense; but he didn't have much luck.
He even talked to B.S. Brian Switzer and didn't find out anything.
He was pretty nice to ole' B.S. Moreso than I thought he needed to be...

Mssage, I was clapping so hard when the guy from Ekalaka asked that
question, I guess I didn't realize only a few clapped at the meeting.

I thought that last call was staged as that person read the start of the
Montana constitution. So I'm sure some were staged. The guy from Ekalaka (the NRA guy) wasn't staged. We live not to far from Ekalaka.
It's the last town in the state of Montana before you get into
Wyoming. There is some real people there who are proud of
their country and what they believe. This fella might be the next
"Joe the Plumber". We'll see.
 

hypocritexposer

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the first question may have been staged also. Now I'm not saying there are not going to be Democrats in the crowd that have questions, but the history is not too great on these townhalls for asking questions of people that do not have something to do with the DNC.

QUESTION: My name is Carol Wilder (ph). I was laid off in January. I am currently uninsured. My two children have Medicaid right now.

And my question is, without going into too much detail, can you tell us what you — if you have kind of looked at Canada, the — England’s system? And, sort of, can you pick and choose from those systems that work, that we see there’s some success rate, and apply that to what you’re trying to push through right now?

Minutes Revised
Central Committee of the Gallatin County Democrats
Regular Meeting of Monday, October 27, 2008

Lynea Seher, Co-chair of the Election Night Party, with
Kristin Taylor, told us that Carol Wilder and Charlie
Pinkava are also involved in the planning. They plan on
renting the Baxter Hotel lobby and upstairs room for $800
from 8 pm to 1:30 am. This will include 2 cash bars with
reasonable drink prices and a bouncer to make sure those
drinking are of age. The Obama campaign will pay $300 and
the Gallatin County Democrats will pay $300. The balance of
the funds will come from the sale of 50/50 Raffle tickets
with a drawing at 11 pm. There might also be donation
buckets. Billy Poindexter will provide giant screen TVs at
discounted rates; Carol Wilder will be the MC; all Democrats
are asked to bring pot luck finger foods. We will notify
all Democrats via our list serves. AM1450 has asked to be
live at the event and the TV stations will also be invited.

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:A-UfIGFQM5gJ:www.gallatindemocrats.com/Minutes/GCD%2520Minutes10-27-08.doc+carol+wilder+montana&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
 

Faster horses

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Send that to Fox News. I bet they'd love to know that.

Glenn Beck aired today that that doctor was a plant.
This is really gettin' to stinkin'!!!!!!!!! :mad:
 

hypocritexposer

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Beck should give me a call.

I'm sure Beck can afford better "investigators" than me, but...

I try not to find people that are guilty of "mopery with intent to creep". That doesn't take any type of detective skills.

Isn't this fun, almost like being involved with law enforcement.

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Tam

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I also noticed he used examples of how people loose their lives waiting for treatment while fighting Insurance companies but nothing about the Oregon woman that had government funded health care and was refused cancer treatment but was offered a death plan which cost less? You will never see him admit to that would you. :wink:
 
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I am so p*ssed at the rightwingernuts that try to portray themselves as the "base" of farmer/ranchers- rural America on this site- and then condone anarchy type thinking- which is just opposite of what I see in most of my area.....
I was so proud of Montana and Montanans that they could produce a Town Hall type meeting without the screaming and yelling of the extremists and "the Bubbas"- and the "we want anarchy-before the truth " conception that has seemed to grip the whole pee down their legger rightwinger nut base....
I only wish I would have copied off the article from NewsMax earlier today (which now seems to have miracously disappered from the web :???: )- of how the tickets were fairly distributed to the townhall meeting- to folks on the right and the left- with the first 150 going to the Governor, Senators and party connected folks- and the rest- up to an unlimited number going "concert style" to anyone that wanted them- and with even the very conservative NewsMax admitting that many went to opponents...

But as Montana has done- many times over heated disagreements- we didn't see the screaming, yelling, fearmongering and hatemongering that seems to grip some of the southern folk and pure hatemonger radical nutcases that are trying to stir up a second civil war thru fearmongering, hatemongering, and conspiracy......

Even those that disagreed- gave the President and the powers to be the respect they should have ......

A BIG ATTA BOY FOR THE STATE OF MONTANA....

Most rational Montana folks recognize that this is all a work in progress- nothing is written in stone-everything is still on the table- that there is a major health care and health care insurance problem-- that the final proposal will be months down the line--- and that rather than just screaming NO- they want someone to fix the monopoly that is raping and pillaging our state and the country ......

Choice of health insurance is limited in Montana. Blue Cross Blue Shield Montana alone constitutes 75 percent of the health insurance market in Montana, with the top two insurance providers accounting for 85 percent.

Insurance companies and Major League Baseball are the only two industries exempt from anti-trust laws.

And Tam, yes I did get an invite- because thru the e-mail they invited everyone in the state (leaves you out) that wanted to attend-- but I had local things to attend to with performing a cousins wedding..... :wink:
 
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