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I received a letter from Hanta Yo's favorite Governor ( :lol: ) about two weeks ago with all the final rules of the M-COOL placarding law which the Dept. of Labor and Industry has accepted based on the Governors Country of Origin Labeling Advisory Council... The Dept is now taking written comments and a public hearing will be held on Nov 29, 2006...Hopefully it can be implemented shortly afterward...

Funny how much you can progress and can accomplish when you have Government Administration working with you- that believes in promoting USA raised BEEF and Montana raised BEEF, rather than fighting your every step......

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Country-of-origin labels coming soon in Montana



T.J. GILLES

The Billings Outpost

November 16, 2006

Montana (MT), US



Montana consumers soon will know the nationality of those burgers and steaks in grocery-store display cases.



Mandatory country of origin labeling (COOL) was included in the 2002 federal farm law and was to cover all beef, lamb, pork, fish, perishable agricultural commodities and peanuts. Originally, the program was to be in place in 2004, then was delayed until Sept. 30 of this year. An appropriations bill delayed that on the federal level until Sept. 30, 2008.



The American Meat Institute and National Cattlemen’s Beef Association have long opposed the “mandatory” provisions of the law. Since 1997, the Cattlemen’s group has gone on record as supporting a “voluntary” meat-labeling provision.



The Meat Institute (of which NCBA is a member) says it is “deeply concerned about the costly and disruptive nature of mandatory country-of-origin labeling” and says such labeling, “similar to other non-food safety claims, should be determined in the marketplace and driven by consumers’ willingness to pay for perceived added or discounted value.”



Meanwhile, Montana and a few other beef-producing states have passed - and seem ready to implement - programs to identify the nationalities of meats sold in stores. The bill passed in the 2005 session requires grocers to identify the country of origin of all beef, pork, poultry and lamb sold. If the store doesn’t know where the meat came from, it must be identified as “country of origin unknown.”



The bill also allows Montana-grown meat to be labeled “made in Montana” instead of “product of the U.S.A.” Deadline for public comment is Nov. 29, and soon thereafter, displays will have to include the nationality of meats that are for sale.



“It’s one thing to pass a law - finally - at the Legislature because we can’t do it federally,” said Dan Teigen of the Northern Plains Resource Council Ag Task Force. “It’s another thing to implement it.” The U.S. Department of Agriculture finally relented and allowed Montana and a handful of other states to identify meats’ origin.



“It’s tough doing USDA’s work for them” said Mr. Teigen. “Real tough ... . Maybe we should send a bill to USDA for having done their work for them.”




“USDA said states can do placards; they just can’t do labels,” Mr. Teigen said last weekend at the 35th annual NPRC meeting. Although the Montana Retail Association resisted the state measure, Mr. Teigen said stores are set up to do display-case placards. They do it all the time to advertise specials or prices.



The requirement does not cover processed foods, frozen foods or restaurant fare, Mr. Teigen said. But he said the proposal will “work for retailers and consumers.”



NRPC, the National Farmers Union and R-CALF USA have been supporters of country of origin labeling, saying consumers have a right to know if their food originated in other countries where health risks such as BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, or “mad cow” disease) may have been detected. The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.



Mr. Teigen said he suspects the meat industry and National Cattlemen’s group oppose such disclosure because they don’t want the public to know how much of their beef immigrated (legally) from Mexico on the hoof and was fed to market weights in feedlots in Texas and other Southwestern states.





billingsnews.com
 

S.S.A.P.

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NRPC, the National Farmers Union and R-CALF USA have been supporters of country of origin labeling, saying consumers have a right to know if their food originated in other countries where health risks such as BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, or “mad cow” disease) may have been detected. The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.



Which of the above want to take credit for this ... um ... uh ... bit of deceit? :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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S.S.A.P. said:
NRPC, the National Farmers Union and R-CALF USA have been supporters of country of origin labeling, saying consumers have a right to know if their food originated in other countries where health risks such as BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, or “mad cow” disease) may have been detected. The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.



Which of the above want to take credit for this ... um ... uh ... bit of deceit? :roll:

I'd say the guy who wrote the article, so the answer is neither.
 

Hanta Yo

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S.S.A.P. said:
NRPC, the National Farmers Union and R-CALF USA have been supporters of country of origin labeling, saying consumers have a right to know if their food originated in other countries where health risks such as BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, or “mad cow” disease) may have been detected. The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.



Which of the above want to take credit for this ... um ... uh ... bit of deceit? :roll:


SSAP, you're absolutely correct, and thanks for picking this up...no one else would have bothered. Dan Tiegen is an R-Calfer and ran against Jim Peterson and lost by a looong ways. Jim Peterson is a past Exec. VP for Montana StockGrowers.


District 15 Cho/Fer/Jud/Gar/McC/Pet

33 of 33 precincts - 100%

x-Jim Peterson, GOP 6,152 - 69%

Dan Teigen, Dem 2,754 - 31%


I think this guy (Teigen) is on or was on the BOD of RCALF.




BSE Cases Identified in the U.S.

The first known case of BSE in the United States was identified in December 2003. On December 23, 2003, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced a presumptive diagnosis of BSE in an adult Holstein cow from Washington State. This diagnosis was confirmed by an international reference laboratory in Weybridge, England, on December 25. Preliminary trace-back based on an ear-tag identification number suggested that the BSE-infected cow was imported into the United States from Canada in August 2001. The preliminary trace-back identification of the animal was later confirmed by genetic testing.

On June 24, 2005, the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced receipt of final results from The Veterinary Laboratories Agency in Weybridge, England, confirming BSE in a cow that had conflicting test results in 2004. This cow was from Texas and represented the first endemic case of BSE in the United States.

On March 13, 2006, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced the confirmation of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in a cow in Alabama. The newly confirmed case was identified in a non-ambulatory (downer) cow on a farm in Alabama. The animal was euthanized by a local veterinarian and buried on the farm. The age of the cow was estimated by examination of the dentition as 10-years-old. It had no ear tags or distinctive marks; the herd of origin could not be identified despite an intense investigation (see Alabama BSE Investigation, Final Epidemiology Report, May 2006).

For more information about BSE in the United States, see the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, USDA BSE site.

For information about BSE in Canada, see the Canada Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) website.

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On June 24, 2005, the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced receipt of final results from The Veterinary Laboratories Agency in Weybridge, England, confirming BSE in a cow that had conflicting test results in 2004. This cow was from Texas and represented the first endemic case of BSE in the United States.

Liar, liar, pants on fire, Dan Teigen aka R-CALF
 
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The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.

Just backs up what I've said on here many times-- Canada has had so many BSE diseased cattle and press coverage over them constantly showing up, that if you mention Mad Cow or BSE to many of the public, they say "Isn't that the Canadian disease"....

One of the main reasons we shouldn't be letting the extent of Canadas disease be dragging down US consumer demand and the US market- identify the country of origin and let the consumer decide!!!!!

Bad enough the Canadian cattle are riding on the US cattle industry's shirttails- but dragging it down because the Packers want to profit off cheap imports passed off as US beef is a crime....
 

Hanta Yo

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One of the main reasons we shouldn't be letting the extent of Canadas disease be dragging down US consumer demand and the US market- identify the country of origin and let the consumer decide!!!!!

I have absolutely no problem with this, MCOOL. I just dislike liars who blame everything on the Canadians, and that is R-CALF.

What does R-CALF think about Premise ID's?
 

Hanta Yo

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
I received a letter from Hanta Yo's favorite Governor ( :lol: ) about two weeks ago with all the final rules of the M-COOL placarding law which the Dept. of Labor and Industry has accepted based on the Governors Country of Origin Labeling Advisory Council... The Dept is now taking written comments and a public hearing will be held on Nov 29, 2006...Hopefully it can be implemented shortly afterward...

Funny how much you can progress and can accomplish when you have Government Administration working with you- that believes in promoting USA raised BEEF and Montana raised BEEF, rather than fighting your every step......

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Country-of-origin labels coming soon in Montana



T.J. GILLES

The Billings Outpost

November 16, 2006

Montana (MT), US



Montana consumers soon will know the nationality of those burgers and steaks in grocery-store display cases.



Mandatory country of origin labeling (COOL) was included in the 2002 federal farm law and was to cover all beef, lamb, pork, fish, perishable agricultural commodities and peanuts. Originally, the program was to be in place in 2004, then was delayed until Sept. 30 of this year. An appropriations bill delayed that on the federal level until Sept. 30, 2008.



The American Meat Institute and National Cattlemen’s Beef Association have long opposed the “mandatory” provisions of the law. Since 1997, the Cattlemen’s group has gone on record as supporting a “voluntary” meat-labeling provision.



The Meat Institute (of which NCBA is a member) says it is “deeply concerned about the costly and disruptive nature of mandatory country-of-origin labeling” and says such labeling, “similar to other non-food safety claims, should be determined in the marketplace and driven by consumers’ willingness to pay for perceived added or discounted value.”



Meanwhile, Montana and a few other beef-producing states have passed - and seem ready to implement - programs to identify the nationalities of meats sold in stores. The bill passed in the 2005 session requires grocers to identify the country of origin of all beef, pork, poultry and lamb sold. If the store doesn’t know where the meat came from, it must be identified as “country of origin unknown.”



The bill also allows Montana-grown meat to be labeled “made in Montana” instead of “product of the U.S.A.” Deadline for public comment is Nov. 29, and soon thereafter, displays will have to include the nationality of meats that are for sale.



“It’s one thing to pass a law - finally - at the Legislature because we can’t do it federally,” said Dan Teigen of the Northern Plains Resource Council Ag Task Force. “It’s another thing to implement it.” The U.S. Department of Agriculture finally relented and allowed Montana and a handful of other states to identify meats’ origin.



“It’s tough doing USDA’s work for them” said Mr. Teigen. “Real tough ... . Maybe we should send a bill to USDA for having done their work for them.”




“USDA said states can do placards; they just can’t do labels,” Mr. Teigen said last weekend at the 35th annual NPRC meeting. Although the Montana Retail Association resisted the state measure, Mr. Teigen said stores are set up to do display-case placards. They do it all the time to advertise specials or prices.



The requirement does not cover processed foods, frozen foods or restaurant fare, Mr. Teigen said. But he said the proposal will “work for retailers and consumers.”



NRPC, the National Farmers Union and R-CALF USA have been supporters of country of origin labeling, saying consumers have a right to know if their food originated in other countries where health risks such as BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, or “mad cow” disease) may have been detected. The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.



Mr. Teigen said he suspects the meat industry and National Cattlemen’s group oppose such disclosure because they don’t want the public to know how much of their beef immigrated (legally) from Mexico on the hoof and was fed to market weights in feedlots in Texas and other Southwestern states.





billingsnews.com

I was invited to attend this meeting, I think I'll go, it's at 1:00 p.m., at the Dept. of Public Health and Human Services (DPHHS) Auditorium, 111 Sanders Street, Helena, MT to consider the proposed adoption of the new rules.

FYI
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.

Just backs up what I've said on here many times-- Canada has had so many BSE diseased cattle and press coverage over them constantly showing up, that if you mention Mad Cow or BSE to many of the public, they say "Isn't that the Canadian disease"....

One of the main reasons we shouldn't be letting the extent of Canadas disease be dragging down US consumer demand and the US market- identify the country of origin and let the consumer decide!!!!!

Bad enough the Canadian cattle are riding on the US cattle industry's shirttails- but dragging it down because the Packers want to profit off cheap imports passed off as US beef is a crime....


The US claims to have found three cases. Only one traced to Canada.

With counting like this I would think the Republicans might have a chance in the recounts. :???:



Where is the "Made in Montana" beef going to come from?
 
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Texan said:
What is Montana doing to verify origin?

Paper trail...Vendors must be able to produce all invoices and bills of lading which they are relying on for the country of origin placarding....

If they cannot- it will be placarded "country of origin unknown because country of origin was not supplied to this retailer by the supplier" or "USDA inspected."
 
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Where is the "Made in Montana" beef going to come from?
Believe it or not there are still several feedlots in Montana- and I believe 2 smaller federal inspected slaughter houses-- and with the proposed change in the law allowing state inspected slaughter plants to sell beef, it will add more...It is currently being sourced by several restaurants in the state....

If those rules had been in place when NAFTA came into effect, many of the Montana slaughter plants that had to close would probably still be open, including the one in Malta......
 

cowsense

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OT; Just how much of Montana's actual retail meat product available for sale is fed, killed and processed in Montana?? Seems to me your paper trail will disappear very quickly when your calves are sorted and commingled in the large out of state feeding lots where the majority end up. Brand duplications and sale sorts will further dilute the original drafts until your source affadavits are slightly more valuable than toilet paper. Montana's COOL without further ID will probably have to state " POSSIBLE PRODUCT OF MONTANA" or in all likelihood "COUNTRY OF ORIGIN UNKNOWN"!
 

mwj

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Oldtimer does this mean that your poor old butcher at the store was ''confused'' when he told you that he had to buy that bad old Canadian beef :shock: Could he have been buying ''wholesome'' Montana beef all along :???: Is the govenor going to let the townspeople hang this crook :evil: What about the children Oldtimer, will they be told that such evil people exist in your small town?
 

S.S.A.P.

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Where is the "Made in Montana" beef going to come from?
Believe it or not there are still several feedlots in Montana- and I believe 2 smaller federal inspected slaughter houses-- and with the proposed change in the law allowing state inspected slaughter plants to sell beef, it will add more...It is currently being sourced by several restaurants in the state....

If those rules had been in place when NAFTA came into effect, many of the Montana slaughter plants that had to close would probably still be open, including the one in Malta......

Why was your local butcher not sourcing from those two (fed) slaughter houses or an instate plant?
I believe you said he "had to" get it from an Iowa (or was it Idaho) packer.


Oldtimer and Sandhusker - are you going to ask Gilles and/or Teigen for a correction? Didn't think so ..... you just continue to ride the "shirttails" of lies !
 
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S.S.A.P. said:
Oldtimer said:
Where is the "Made in Montana" beef going to come from?
Believe it or not there are still several feedlots in Montana- and I believe 2 smaller federal inspected slaughter houses-- and with the proposed change in the law allowing state inspected slaughter plants to sell beef, it will add more...It is currently being sourced by several restaurants in the state....

If those rules had been in place when NAFTA came into effect, many of the Montana slaughter plants that had to close would probably still be open, including the one in Malta......

Why was your local butcher not sourcing from those two (fed) slaughter houses or an instate plant?
I believe you said he "had to" get it from an Iowa (or was it Idaho) packer.

Why should he? When he can sell cheaper imported passed off as US beef? He had no incentive to do so-- now he does......

And its Idaho where the packers have the big warehouse....


Oldtimer and Sandhusker - are you going to ask Gilles and/or Teigen for a correction? Didn't think so ..... you just continue to ride the "shirttails" of lies !
You should know about riding shirttails :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

Manitoba_Rancher

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
The only cattle in the United States found to have BSE hailed from Canada.

Just backs up what I've said on here many times-- Canada has had so many BSE diseased cattle and press coverage over them constantly showing up, that if you mention Mad Cow or BSE to many of the public, they say "Isn't that the Canadian disease"....

One of the main reasons we shouldn't be letting the extent of Canadas disease be dragging down US consumer demand and the US market- identify the country of origin and let the consumer decide!!!!!

Bad enough the Canadian cattle are riding on the US cattle industry's shirttails- but dragging it down because the Packers want to profit off cheap imports passed off as US beef is a crime....


The US claims to have found three cases. Only one traced to Canada.

With counting like this I would think the Republicans might have a chance in the recounts. :???:



Where is the "Made in Montana" beef going to come from?


BMR,

Its likely going to be Product of Canada but in a Product of Montana package..... :wink:

OT- There is no damn way your going to be able to follow these cattle through the system with brands!! Could you give us the number of feedlots in Montana that have a capacity of 4000 hd or larger?
 
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Manitoba_Rancher said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Just backs up what I've said on here many times-- Canada has had so many BSE diseased cattle and press coverage over them constantly showing up, that if you mention Mad Cow or BSE to many of the public, they say "Isn't that the Canadian disease"....

One of the main reasons we shouldn't be letting the extent of Canadas disease be dragging down US consumer demand and the US market- identify the country of origin and let the consumer decide!!!!!

Bad enough the Canadian cattle are riding on the US cattle industry's shirttails- but dragging it down because the Packers want to profit off cheap imports passed off as US beef is a crime....


The US claims to have found three cases. Only one traced to Canada.

With counting like this I would think the Republicans might have a chance in the recounts. :???:



Where is the "Made in Montana" beef going to come from?


BMR,

Its likely going to be Product of Canada but in a Product of Montana package..... :wink:

OT- There is no damn way your going to be able to follow these cattle through the system with brands!! Could you give us the number of feedlots in Montana that have a capacity of 4000 hd or larger?

Not sure- we have 4 in this county- couple near the 10,000 hd. range...I know of several more around the state....Lot more are being fed out than can be slaughtered by the few plants we have left...And several folks that in the past just fed out a few hundred are gearing up to go back into it- mainly to supply the local demand when more people find out that they have been being deceived by the retailers/ and the state inspected plants gain new markets by being able to ship interstate....The Montana label may/will give the local plants an advantage to reopen or open new facilities...And thats what your supposed to promote- your home grown ain't it? Unless your Canuck and have to have it passed off as a US product -eh :???: :wink: :lol:

MR- they have been using affidavits down here for years- both for source and all natural- and its been working...Even Japan, Korea, and some of our other export market countries have accepted it when they asked for their beef to be segregated from the Canadian...

I worked with 2 bunchs of cattle today- and both went with signed affidavits showing county, state, and country raised- and all natural verification-- with brands listed and brand inspection...The one buyer (who also owns several large SD feedlots) told me these are becoming even more important now so that when it comes to slaughter time he can maintain the paper trail and send them to slaughter with the animals and his feedlot affidavit...
 

S.S.A.P.

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
S.S.A.P. said:
Oldtimer said:
Believe it or not there are still several feedlots in Montana- and I believe 2 smaller federal inspected slaughter houses-- and with the proposed change in the law allowing state inspected slaughter plants to sell beef, it will add more...It is currently being sourced by several restaurants in the state....

If those rules had been in place when NAFTA came into effect, many of the Montana slaughter plants that had to close would probably still be open, including the one in Malta......

Why was your local butcher not sourcing from those two (fed) slaughter houses or an instate plant?
I believe you said he "had to" get it from an Iowa (or was it Idaho) packer.

Why should he? When he can sell cheaper imported passed off as US beef? He had no incentive to do so-- now he does......

And its Idaho where the packers have the big warehouse....


Oldtimer and Sandhusker - are you going to ask Gilles and/or Teigen for a correction? Didn't think so ..... you just continue to ride the "shirttails" of lies !
You should know about riding shirttails :wink: :lol: :lol:

I'd ask you to keep us posted on "what he does" but I expect you'd do that as honestly as you'd ask for a correction of the lie in the article.

Just a thought - say a beef consumer reads that lie. He/she already knows that the US has had two domestic cases of BSE. Do they start to wonder what else these 'organizations' are lieing to them about?

Actually two thoughts - a potential beef consumer is standing at the meat counter - which item are they going to purchase if a "Product of Montana" does not fit their budget (or is not consistently available):
"country of origin unknown because country of origin was not supplied to this retailer by the supplier"
or
"USDA inspected."
 

ocm

Well-known member
Texan said:
What is Montana doing to verify origin?

If I am correct, Montana law does not require suppliers to provide country of origin information. It is optional. However, if they don't provide documentation of origin, then the placard will read "origin unknown" or something like that.

This provides an economic incentive for retailers to insist on documentation from the suppliers. Enforcement is much simpler this way. The free market assists enforcement.
 
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