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As a result of Tuesday's election, Americans in 15 states have filed petitions to secede from the United States, Regina Conley reported at Red Alert Politics on Saturday.

So far, she says, residents in Louisiana, Texas, Kentucky, Colorado, New Jersey and ten other states, have filed petitions at the White House petition site requesting secession. A petition for New York to secede was file by "C R" of Grand Forks, North Dakota on Saturday.

Examiner's Sheila Carroll says those other states include Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Oregon.

On November 7, the day after the election, "Michael E" from Slidell, Louisiana, filed a petition at the White House "We the People" site, requesting that Louisiana be allowed to secede.

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation," the petition reads, quoting the Declaration of Independence.

As of this writing, the petition has 8.162 signatures and needs 16,838 to reach a goal of 25,000.

On Friday, a Texas resident created a petition to secede in order to protect the standard of living Texans now enjoy.

"The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect its citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government," the petition reads.

As of this writing, that petition had 5,289 signatures.

The Oregon petition, started Saturday by "Kristopher W" of Tillamook, Oregon, wants the state to remain an ally of the United States and possibly vote to rejoin the Union once "the citizens of Oregon felt the Federal Government was no longer imposing" what it calls a tyrannical government that cares nothing about the future of Oregon's children."

Petitions on the White House site have 30 days to reach a threshold of 25,000 signatures.

"While these petitions serve more to make a point than to present a serious proposition, they are a physical symbol of the deep resentment for the direction in which the United States is moving under the Obama administration," Conley added.
 
Lonecowboy said:
Sage, do you have a link or anything to find the MT one?


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-montana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/l76dWhwN


Full list of the state petitions, thus far.

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1461626
 
Mike said:
Let's not confuse OT.

He doesn't know the difference between "secession" & "succeeding". :lol:

We've had groups trying this for years...Remember the "Freemen"? Some of their leadership is still in or died in prison...

I see that one of the fellows on the website is flat an idiot...Montana was not a confederate state... It wasn't even a state at the time of the Civil War- and altho it was populated by a number of southerners who went north looking for fame and fortune-- Lincoln sent in troops to make sure the Territory (and its gold) stayed loyal to the UNITED States...

The smartest commenter on the site was the one saying these petitions mean nothing- as the White House (government) gets thousands- and they are appropriately filed (file 13)... In some cases these websites love to get your name on a petition site-- and then they reuse it hundreds of times over- and have you supporting PETA and HSUS and Save the Bumblebee, etal movements...

And as the one commenter said to the effect - Didn't we already do this 150 years ago- and it didn't come out so good for those dumb folk that succeeded.... :???: :wink:
 
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Let's not confuse OT.

He doesn't know the difference between "secession" & "succeeding". :lol:

We've had groups trying this for years...Remember the "Freemen"? Some of their leadership is still in or died in prison...

I see that one of the fellows on the website is flat an idiot...Montana was not a confederate state... It wasn't even a state at the time of the Civil War- and altho it was populated by a number of southerners who went north looking for fame and fortune-- Lincoln sent in troops to make sure the Territory (and its gold) stayed loyal to the UNITED States...

The smartest commenter on the site was the one saying these petitions mean nothing- as the White House (government) gets thousands- and they are appropriately filed (file 13)... In some cases these websites love to get your name on a petition site-- and then they reuse it hundreds of times over- and have you supporting PETA and HSUS and Save the Bumblebee, etal movements...

And as the one commenter said to the effect - Didn't we already do this 150 years ago- and it didn't come out so good for those dumb folk that succeeded.... :???: :wink:

The State's that chose to "secede" in 1860-61 were following in the exact footsteps of their forefathers that created this nation when they themselves seceded from England.

Because they did not prevail did not make them dumb. They were simply fighting for their convictions. Because you say so does not make it the truth. Quite the contrary.

In fact, the North had many thousands more unneeded deaths than the South. Talk about dumb....................................Lincoln was directly responsible for around 750,000 deaths all total. How dumb was that?

:roll:
 
I am ready to pull away, and let the liberals have the north east, then we can have a true conservative nation.....
 
jigs said:
I am ready to pull away, and let the liberals have the north east, then we can have a true conservative nation.....

In addition, I'd give California to China in exchange for our debts. That way, we could keep a close eye on them.
 
Oldtimer said:
And as the one commenter said to the effect - Didn't we already do this 150 years ago- and it didn't come out so good for those dumb folk that succeeded.... :???: :wink:

OT I don't believe in secession either but have to remind you that although Montana has advanced very little in 150 years the South has !!! The results might be dramatically different if it happened again. We don't just pick cotton anymore. Montana, however, already basically a wasteland would probably not be affected.
 
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Let's not confuse OT.

He doesn't know the difference between "secession" & "succeeding". :lol:

We've had groups trying this for years...Remember the "Freemen"? Some of their leadership is still in or died in prison...

I see that one of the fellows on the website is flat an idiot...Montana was not a confederate state... It wasn't even a state at the time of the Civil War- and altho it was populated by a number of southerners who went north looking for fame and fortune-- Lincoln sent in troops to make sure the Territory (and its gold) stayed loyal to the UNITED States...

The smartest commenter on the site was the one saying these petitions mean nothing- as the White House (government) gets thousands- and they are appropriately filed (file 13)... In some cases these websites love to get your name on a petition site-- and then they reuse it hundreds of times over- and have you supporting PETA and HSUS and Save the Bumblebee, etal movements...

And as the one commenter said to the effect - Didn't we already do this 150 years ago- and it didn't come out so good for those dumb folk that succeeded.... :???: :wink:
Oh Mike you called that one! :D

your right oldtimer it isn't turning out quite so well for those who "succeeded" :oops:
 
Lonecowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Let's not confuse OT.

He doesn't know the difference between "secession" & "succeeding". :lol:

We've had groups trying this for years...Remember the "Freemen"? Some of their leadership is still in or died in prison...

I see that one of the fellows on the website is flat an idiot...Montana was not a confederate state... It wasn't even a state at the time of the Civil War- and altho it was populated by a number of southerners who went north looking for fame and fortune-- Lincoln sent in troops to make sure the Territory (and its gold) stayed loyal to the UNITED States...

The smartest commenter on the site was the one saying these petitions mean nothing- as the White House (government) gets thousands- and they are appropriately filed (file 13)... In some cases these websites love to get your name on a petition site-- and then they reuse it hundreds of times over- and have you supporting PETA and HSUS and Save the Bumblebee, etal movements...

And as the one commenter said to the effect - Didn't we already do this 150 years ago- and it didn't come out so good for those dumb folk that succeeded.... :???: :wink:
Oh Mike you called that one! :D

your right oldtimer it isn't turning out quite so well for those who "succeeded" :oops:

OOPS- wheels not turning too fast this morning after looking at the thermometer show -12 degrees...Trying to build up the courage to go out and feed bulls and get the day started..
 
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
 
Oldtimer said:
Lonecowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
We've had groups trying this for years...Remember the "Freemen"? Some of their leadership is still in or died in prison...

I see that one of the fellows on the website is flat an idiot...Montana was not a confederate state... It wasn't even a state at the time of the Civil War- and altho it was populated by a number of southerners who went north looking for fame and fortune-- Lincoln sent in troops to make sure the Territory (and its gold) stayed loyal to the UNITED States...

The smartest commenter on the site was the one saying these petitions mean nothing- as the White House (government) gets thousands- and they are appropriately filed (file 13)... In some cases these websites love to get your name on a petition site-- and then they reuse it hundreds of times over- and have you supporting PETA and HSUS and Save the Bumblebee, etal movements...

And as the one commenter said to the effect - Didn't we already do this 150 years ago- and it didn't come out so good for those dumb folk that succeeded.... :???: :wink:
Oh Mike you called that one! :D

your right oldtimer it isn't turning out quite so well for those who "succeeded" :oops:

OOPS- wheels not turning too fast this morning after looking at the thermometer show -12 degrees...Trying to build up the courage to go out and feed bulls and get the day started..

"Get the day started" at 9:56 A.M.? Most of us were out before daylight. In fact, I fed a few heifers by the light of the truck.
You are a lazy fatazz........................................
 

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