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More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war

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More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says
Jim Brown
OneNewsNow.com
February 22, 2007


Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The group says that number is more than 15 percent of all the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the representation of illegal aliens in the general population.

Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters (FSM). He says the high number of Americans being killed by illegal aliens is just part of the collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal immigration.

"The military actually called for the BORTAC team, ... the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler notes. "Now, if our military can understand that Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to protect its border against insurgents and terrorists, then why isn't our country similarly protecting our own borders?" he asks.

"We are not five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11, and yet our borders remain open," the Center for Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head your way, run in the other direction."

This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists are entering our country just as easily as the dishwashers," he says.


The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics, Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver Program."

The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables nationals of certain countries to travel to the United States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S. State Department website, the waiver program was established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America's tourism industry, and allowing the government to focus consular resources in other areas.

Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality industries want America's borders wide open. In other words, the former INS official contends, the nation's security is being compromised in the name of trade.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/02/more_americans_killed_by_illeg.php
 

aplusmnt

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Michael Savage had a good idea the other day, We should outsource some of our Prisons. When it comes to Illegals, we should outsource to Russia and send any illegals convicted of crimes over to Siberia to prison. Cheaper than what it would cost to run Prisons here in the U.S.

They are not U.S. citizens so we would not be required to make sure they are getting 3 meals and TV to watch. Let them see what it is like in a Russian or Turkey Prison and maybe they will not come here and commit so many crimes.
 

Mike

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I 'spose if OT had known in the future that he supported a pres that would throw the orders wide open and invite the world here he might have hesitated? :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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Mike said:
I 'spose if OT had known in the future that he supported a pres that would throw the orders wide open and invite the world here he might have hesitated? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wasn't much choice either way - the co-sponsor of the McCain/Kennedy/Bush Amnesty or Obama who had no real border history- but as a Dem supports more latino residents/citizens.... Made Immigration/border a non-issue to me...
No President has adequately enforced the provisions in Reagans Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 which would have made it a criminal act to hire an illegal- which from what I now see 7 years later may be the only real way of handling the illegal alien problem...
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
I 'spose if OT had known in the future that he supported a pres that would throw the orders wide open and invite the world here he might have hesitated? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wasn't much choice either way - the co-sponsor of the McCain/Kennedy/Bush Amnesty or Obama who had no real border history- but as a Dem supports more latino residents/citizens.... Made Immigration/border a non-issue to me...
No President has adequately enforced the provisions in Reagans Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 which would have made it a criminal act to hire an illegal- which from what I now see 7 years later may be the only real way of handling the illegal alien problem...

Wow, immigration/border is now a non-issue with the fatman. The IRS targeting politicial enemies of the White House is now a non-issue as well. Trampling that precious constitution is now a non-issue too.

Wonder what's up with all that? :???: :???: :???: :???:
 
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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
I 'spose if OT had known in the future that he supported a pres that would throw the orders wide open and invite the world here he might have hesitated? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Wasn't much choice either way - the co-sponsor of the McCain/Kennedy/Bush Amnesty or Obama who had no real border history- but as a Dem supports more latino residents/citizens.... Made Immigration/border a non-issue to me...
No President has adequately enforced the provisions in Reagans Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 which would have made it a criminal act to hire an illegal- which from what I now see 7 years later may be the only real way of handling the illegal alien problem...

Wow, immigration/border is now a non-issue with the fatman. The IRS targeting politicial enemies of the White House is now a non-issue as well. Trampling that precious constitution is now a non-issue too.

Wonder what's up with all that? :???: :???: :???: :???:

Its a non-issue between the (R's) and the (D's) as both of them have historically been pretty much the same ... And the Libertarian party believes the border should be opened wider as far as for legal immigrants and let capitalism and free trade control it ...
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Wasn't much choice either way - the co-sponsor of the McCain/Kennedy/Bush Amnesty or Obama who had no real border history- but as a Dem supports more latino residents/citizens.... Made Immigration/border a non-issue to me...
No President has adequately enforced the provisions in Reagans Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 which would have made it a criminal act to hire an illegal- which from what I now see 7 years later may be the only real way of handling the illegal alien problem...

Wow, immigration/border is now a non-issue with the fatman. The IRS targeting politicial enemies of the White House is now a non-issue as well. Trampling that precious constitution is now a non-issue too.

Wonder what's up with all that? :???: :???: :???: :???:

Its a non-issue between the (R's) and the (D's) as both of them have historically been pretty much the same ... And the Libertarian party believes the border should be opened wider as far as for legal immigrants and let capitalism and free trade control it ...

Will you ever admit that these issues are important to you when there's an R in the white house but suddenly fall off your radar screen when there's a D?

Another good example. Would you like for me to bring up some of the threads where you whined over and over again about the torture (waterboarding) of 3 of the top al queda guys we have in prison.

Woe is me.....what will the world think of us?.....it's our constitution, not our economic strength, and how we treat the weakest amongst us that has made us great.....blah blah blah

But, put a D in the white hosue......the president ordering the killing an american citizen who has never been charged with a crime? No problem.

BIGFATHIPOCRITE.

These are things I despise about you OT.
 
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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
Wow, immigration/border is now a non-issue with the fatman. The IRS targeting politicial enemies of the White House is now a non-issue as well. Trampling that precious constitution is now a non-issue too.

Wonder what's up with all that? :???: :???: :???: :???:

Its a non-issue between the (R's) and the (D's) as both of them have historically been pretty much the same ... And the Libertarian party believes the border should be opened wider as far as for legal immigrants and let capitalism and free trade control it ...

Will you ever admit that these issues are important to you when there's an R in the white house but suddenly fall off your radar screen when there's a D?

Another good example. Would you like for me to bring up some of the threads where you whined over and over again about the torture (waterboarding) of 3 of the top al queda guys we have in prison.

Woe is me.....what will the world think of us?.....it's our constitution, not our economic strength, and how we treat the weakest amongst us that has made us great.....blah blah blah

But, put a D in the white hosue......the president ordering the killing an american citizen who has never been charged with a crime? No problem.

BIGFATHIPOCRITE.

These are things I despise about you OT.

I admit I put a lot of hope and faith in Bush/Republican President to handle the border/illegals problem- and was greatly disappointed... From then on it became a non-issue because I could see no one was going to stop it... I'm still opposed to the illegals but unsure if there is anyway to handle the problem since no one wants to bring criminal charges against those that hire them ( who happen to be the same ones stuffing the politicians pockets)...

Waterboarding :???: Where did that come from? Was Bush waterboarding illegal latinos ? Is Obama ?
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
I admit I put a lot of hope and faith in Bush/Republican President to handle the border/illegals problem- and was greatly disappointed... From then on it became a non-issue because I could see no one was going to stop it... I'm still opposed to the illegals but unsure if there is anyway to handle the problem since no one wants to bring criminal charges against those that hire them ( who happen to be the same ones stuffing the politicians pockets)...

Waterboarding :???: Where did that come from? Was Bush waterboarding illegal latinos ? Is Obama ?

Go back a re-read the post numbnut. I used the waterboarding issue as another example of how malleable your principles are. In the end, it's all about R or D with you, nothing more.

Another example. Answer this one honestly. Did you complain about Bush denying habeus corpus to Gitmo detainees?
 
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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
I admit I put a lot of hope and faith in Bush/Republican President to handle the border/illegals problem- and was greatly disappointed... From then on it became a non-issue because I could see no one was going to stop it... I'm still opposed to the illegals but unsure if there is anyway to handle the problem since no one wants to bring criminal charges against those that hire them ( who happen to be the same ones stuffing the politicians pockets)...

Waterboarding :???: Where did that come from? Was Bush waterboarding illegal latinos ? Is Obama ?

Go back a re-read the post numbnut. I used the waterboarding issue as another example of how malleable your principles are. In the end, it's all about R or D with you, nothing more.

Another example. Answer this one honestly. Did you complain about Bush denying habeus corpus to Gitmo detainees?

Yep-- and all the courts up thru the SCOTUS backed me up... Not giving them representation or judicial oversight (criminal trial or military tribunal reviews) was/is unconstitutional...
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
I admit I put a lot of hope and faith in Bush/Republican President to handle the border/illegals problem- and was greatly disappointed... From then on it became a non-issue because I could see no one was going to stop it... I'm still opposed to the illegals but unsure if there is anyway to handle the problem since no one wants to bring criminal charges against those that hire them ( who happen to be the same ones stuffing the politicians pockets)...

Waterboarding :???: Where did that come from? Was Bush waterboarding illegal latinos ? Is Obama ?

Go back a re-read the post numbnut. I used the waterboarding issue as another example of how malleable your principles are. In the end, it's all about R or D with you, nothing more.

Another example. Answer this one honestly. Did you complain about Bush denying habeus corpus to Gitmo detainees?

Yep-- and all the courts up thru the SCOTUS backed me up... Not giving them representation or judicial oversight (criminal trial or military tribunal reviews) was/is unconstitutional...

But it's okay for a president of the united states to order the execution of an american citizen with ZERO input from a single court?
 
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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
Go back a re-read the post numbnut. I used the waterboarding issue as another example of how malleable your principles are. In the end, it's all about R or D with you, nothing more.

Another example. Answer this one honestly. Did you complain about Bush denying habeus corpus to Gitmo detainees?

Yep-- and all the courts up thru the SCOTUS backed me up... Not giving them representation or judicial oversight (criminal trial or military tribunal reviews) was/is unconstitutional...

But it's okay for a president of the united states to order the execution of an american citizen with ZERO input from a single court?

Nope I believe they need oversight for that too... My understanding now is it is a major group of defense/intelligence officials that do most of the decision making, which is much like a court/jury - but would prefer that they add in some judicial oversight...

I believe in the case of Al Awaki he had been convicted in absentia in Yemen and had been ordered captured "dead or alive" by a Yemeni Judge... He was a dual citizen- US and Yemeni (another issue I don't believe in- either your a US citizen or not.. None of this half and half bull..)
 

Mike

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WW- Another example. Answer this one honestly. Did you complain about Bush denying habeus corpus to Gitmo detainees?


OT - Yep-- and all the courts up thru the SCOTUS backed me up.

You really have no idea do you?

The Boumadien v. Bush decision was reduced to an empty shell when 7 petitioners were afterwards denied petitions by SCOTUS. :roll:

To say that SCOTUS "backed you up" is not only blasphemic but severely narcissistic. :roll:
 

Whitewing

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Mike said:
WW- Another example. Answer this one honestly. Did you complain about Bush denying habeus corpus to Gitmo detainees?


OT - Yep-- and all the courts up thru the SCOTUS backed me up.

You really have no idea do you?

The Boumadien v. Bush decision was reduced to an empty shell when 7 petitioners were afterwards denied petitions by SCOTUS. :roll:

To say that SCOTUS "backed you up" is not only blasphemic but severely narcissistic. :roll:

He's also delusional

Oldtimer said:
My understanding now is it is a major group of defense/intelligence officials that do most of the decision making, which is much like a court/jury

:lol:
 

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