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Anonymous

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Al Qaeda Gloats Over Rumsfeld


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A purported audio recording by the leader of Iraq's al Qaeda wing gloated over the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, as a top U.S. general said the military was preparing to recommend strategy changes.

Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, also known as Abu Ayyub al-Masri, said in the recording posted on the Internet on Friday that the group had 12,000 armed fighters and 10,000 others waiting to be equipped to fight U.S. troops in Iraq.

"I tell the lame duck (U.S. administration) do not rush to escape as did your defense minister...stay on the battle ground," he said.

He said his group would not rest until it had blown up the presidential mansion in Washington.

"I swear by God we shall not rest from jihad until we...blow up the filthiest house known as the White House," the voice on the recording said.


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Ooops, my mistake. I guess I didn't read it closely enough. This wasn't gloating from the dems, was it? Strange how it sounds so much like dis, #2 and kola, isn't it? :mad:
 

kolanuraven

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You're still beating that drum...:" if you're not in agreement with me....then you must be against me" That's getting kinda old.

Rumsfeld HIMSELF said that the war needed " new eyes"...what say you on that?? Is he cutting and running???? Has he decided that he is FOR the bad guys now cause he's developed a different opinion??

You can't keep hitting the wall with head...something's gotta give after a while.

Why be soooo scared of change? In a year or so I bet a lot of ya'll will be admitting that you voted Dem anyway and whatever good comes of this....well ya'll thought of it first.
 

Red Robin

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X do you think Abu Hamza al-Muhajir could get the democratic nomination in 08 or do you think they want someone less notably American , like hilliary?
 
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kolanuraven said:
In a year or so I bet a lot of ya'll will be admitting that you voted Dem anyway and whatever good comes of this....well ya'll thought of it first.
Go take your medicine, Sugar. You can come back and play when you're more lucid.
 
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Red Robin said:
X do you think Abu Hamza al-Muhajir could get the democratic nomination in 08 or do you think they want someone less notably American , like hilliary?
Good question, RR. I'm unsure at this time. Although they obviously share the same 'America sucks' platform, I'm afraid the raghead doesn't have the name recognition that hitlery has. Maybe they'll get him to speak at their convention like they did with Osama Obama. That should fix the name recognition problem for him and make him a viable candidate the next time around.

Guess that'll make it a toss-up between him and the other dems. Their primary voters will probably just stay at home if faced with that choice.
 

kolanuraven

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Rumsfeld HIMSELF said that the war needed " new eyes"...what say you on that?? Is he cutting and running???? Has he decided that he is FOR the bad guys now cause he's developed a different opinion??


X, I asked you a direct question....don't dismiss me.

I'm no where as big a nag as MM& P....yet!
 

katrina

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On June 12, less than a week after a U.S. air strike killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaeda in Iraq website announced the appointment of the group's new leader, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir. Al-Muhajir is a largely unknown figure; he never appeared on wanted lists published by the U.S. military or Iraqi government, nor was he mentioned in any of al-Zarqawi's propaganda over the last three years. In fact, his appointment has surprised many jihadis, who expected Zarqawi's deputy, Abu Abdelrahman al-Iraqi, to take over.

Who is Abu Hamza al-Muhajir?
No one seems to know for certain. The website announcing al-Muhajir's new post said he is "a good brother, has a history in jihad, and is knowledgeable." On July 13, the Times of London cited "insurgent sources" who described their new leader as an Egyptian national with experience fighting in Afghanistan and against U.S. forces in Fallujah in 2004. Farhana Ali, a terrorism expert at the RAND corporation, says Abu Hamza al-Muhajir may be an alias of Abu Ayub al-Masri, an Egyptian trained in Afghanistan who was identified by the U.S. military as a likely successor to al-Zarqawi.

The nom de guerre al-Muhajir has chosen also offers some clues. As with many terrorists in Iraq, his name begins with Abu, meaning "father of," and is followed by a name that is either his son's or a pseudonym. The second part of the name usually is a clue to the person's place of origin, says Rick Francona, a defense intelligence expert. Al-Zarqawi, for instance, named himself for his hometown of Zarqa in Jordan. Al-Muhajir means "the emigrant," which has led most experts to speculate that he is not Iraqi. While this may well be the case, "You cannot deduce from the term 'muhajir' that he is not Iraqi," says Fawaz Gerges, a Middle East expert at Sarah Lawrence College. He says the term was originally used to describe the companions of Mohammed who left Mecca for Medina, and it could well be a reference to time spent traveling or training in a place such as Afghanistan.

What is the symbolic importance of the post?
"People in the jihad pledge loyalty to the emir," explains Gerges, "It's close to a sacred position. It's very unlikely for a jihadist organization to appoint an emir without that person being highly regarded, highly seasoned." For this reason, the experience and knowledge cited on the al-Qaeda in Iraq website is a vital credential.

Why would someone so unknown be appointed?
Most experts agree the announcement of al-Muhajir's ascension was intentionally vague. "It's unusual," Gerges says, "It could be tactical deception on the part of al-Qaeda." Ali agrees, suggesting it's "probably to protect him from capture."

Another source of confusion involves Abu Abdelrahman al-Iraqi, Zarqawi's former deputy, who declared himself the new leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq last week on his own website. Ali says that while there are rumors of a power struggle between al-Iraqi and al-Muhajir, such a conflict is unlikely.

Despite these vague and contradictory messages, Ali maintains al-Qaeda in Iraq has done a good job of fighting the information war post-Zarqawi. "If anything," she says, "Zarqawi's death has provided a new impetus for attack."

How might a new leader change the al-Qaeda in Iraq organization?
Al-Qaeda in Iraq was already in the midst of a steady transformation at the time of Zarqawi's death. The group was initially composed primarily of foreign fighters, but over the last several months it has begun to incorporate many more native fighters in hopes of creating an indigenous home base. "We can no longer talk about a foreign-born al-Qaeda in Iraq," Gerges says. Part of the reason for this shift was many of Zarqawi's foreign-born lieutenants had been killed off and his ability to gain new recruits was diminishing. If speculation that al-Muhajir is a foreigner is correct, it runs somewhat against this trend. As Gerges explains, "Even if you have a foreign-born leader, the rank and file of al-Qaeda in Iraq is becoming more Iraqi."
 

katrina

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An Audio Speech from Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, Emir of al-Qaeda in Iraq, “There is No Judgment, but that of Allah” – 11/10/2006
By SITE Institute
November 10, 2006




A 22:24 minute audio speech attributed to the Emir of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, and titled: “There is No Judgment, but that of Allah,” was issued by the Ministry of Information of the Islamic State of Iraq today, Friday, November 10, 2006. Within his message, Muhajir speaks in the regard of recent events, including the establishment of the Islamic State, American elections in which the Democratic Party gained power within Congress, and the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld as the U.S. Secretary of Defense. These events, he believes, are portents of the victory of the Mujahideen, but on this he does not dwell. Rather, he speaks at greater length to the Mujahideen, specifically calling for the first time to those in Ansar al-Sunnah, the Islamic Army in Iraq, and the Mujahideen Army for their unity with the Islamic State, and continuity of jihad until they grab hold of the White House.


Muhajir observes the American people putting their foot “on the right path,” and executing wise judgment in the elections on Tuesday, November 7, realizing the “treachery” of U.S. President George W. Bush and his supporters of Israel. However, he questions if the politicians will fulfill their campaign promises to their constituents and “relieve the hearts of the mothers by bringing back their children from the teeth of the lions of the Land of Two Rivers”. He then taunts the U.S., calling the state a “crippled duck,” and asking them not to be as hasty in their retreat as Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, for the Mujahideen are not yet satisfied with the blood of the American soldier in Iraq; an Iraq where even an illiterate farmer, imbued with the doctrine of “No God, but Allah,” is capable of detonating an explosive device on a symbol of America. To President Bush directly, Muhajir claims that he was deceived by the Shi’ites of Iran to use American soldiers as a conduit to extend the Persian Empire, without firing one bullet or sacrificing one soldier of their own.


The subject of unity pervades the remainder of Abu Hamza al-Muhajir’s speech, as he himself makes a bid to foster agreement amongst the Mujahideen by pledging loyalty to the Emir of the Believers, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi. All that had been established thus far by al-Qaeda in Iraq and its 12,000 Mujahideen are assigned to the direct orders of al-Baghdadi, including an additional 10,000 Mujahideen who await financial support before engaging in jihad. He also calls upon Muslims in enemy security forces to repent, indicating those under the regime of King Abdullah II of Jordan, and makes overtures to other Iraqi insurgency groups to join under one banner. To them he states: “We are no better than you. You are the pioneers of Jihad and the most obedient soldiers. We consider you the most loyal to Allah. You know that this makes the enemy angry and pleases the friend”.
 

jigs

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bring your 22 thousand raghead warriors, and stand toe to toe with us, and lets just settle it like men.....our military could use a good 45 minute work out!

we need to stop worrying about civilians.....shoot first ask questions later. piss on Geneva convention, and rules of engagement. we can NEVER win a war play by the rules when the other side does not play by them.....

can we get Moses to part the Red Sea, and give the muslims a little Egyptian treatment?

Muslims are like snakes, best one is a dead one
 

kolanuraven

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we need to stop worrying about civilians.....shoot first ask questions later. Muslims are like snakes, best one is a dead one[/quote]


Surely this is pure BS from you....because if it's not...you got mental problems and a limited train of thought cause this is all you harp about.
 

jigs

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as for the mental problems.....my wife may think you are correct.

as for the rest, why do we need to follow the rules if the enemy won't?

if we kill 100 Iraqis, and 10-20 of them are not militant rebels, it is no sweat off my back.....they were not to picky on how many civilians were killed on 9-11.
 

Red Robin

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kolanuraven said:
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11!!!

How many more years does this have to be repeated!!!
All those that flew the plans into the buildings on 911 died in the crash Kolanuraven. We are fighting against those with the same ideals and desires.
 

jigs

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kolanuraven said:
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11!!!

How many more years does this have to be repeated!!!


spread that on your garden this fall and you will get pumpkin sized tomatoes next year

if stupid was painful, you would be hooked on morphine
 

jigs

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kolanuraven said:
Why not deal with the exact people who cause the 9-11 troubles....not people ' just like them"?

That is warped thinking!!

ok, you win, lets just put up a sign that reads " all terrorists, meet us at the Dairy Queen this Friday....that will draw them out into the open. you are an idiot at this war thing.....go back in the Kitchen and leave the tough stuff to men.
 

memanpa

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kolanuraven said:
Why not deal with the exact people who cause the 9-11 troubles....not people ' just like them"?

That is warped thinking!!

waht the he!! do you think we are doing??
we ARE dealing with the people who caused 9-11.

get your head out of that dark brown hole you have it in and smell the roses!!!!!!!!!!!! instead of that crap you spread.

with your line of thought why not just invite them to your house for supper?
whoops probabally have already :mad:
 

memanpa

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kolanuraven said:
Rumsfeld HIMSELF said that the war needed " new eyes"...what say you on that?? Is he cutting and running???? Has he decided that he is FOR the bad guys now cause he's developed a different opinion??


X, I asked you a direct question....don't dismiss me.

I'm no where as big a nag as MM& P....yet!

on your best day you will not be as good as me on my very worst day!
my eyes are not brown from being to full of CRAP

once again you miss the point of the post!!!!

these people HATE us every last one of us! and if you think for one minute they would not kill you and dance with glee, they would, even if you stood there and said you supported them!
open your arms to one of the civilain women and hug her! you are just as apt to step away with a knife in your back as not, even the children are taught and trained to kill us, and those that think otherwise will be the first to die if it comes down to it!

it is DEATH to the infidel's and like it or not kolo you are one too, OR ARE YOU???? :?
 

kolanuraven

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MM& P...did I ask YOU?

You are not only rude but too stupid to stay out of something NOT directed @ you.

Same goes for you jigs
 

memanpa

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kolanuraven said:
MM& P...did I ask YOU?

You are not only rude but too stupid to stay out of something NOT directed @ you.

Same goes for you jigs
:D :D :D :D :D :D

heheheehhhheeeeeeeeee
am i getting to you LIL girl.
 
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