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More gloating from the dems

aplusmnt

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Hanta Yo said:
Did I read all those big reports wrong that you posted? I did just skim read it all but I thought what all you posted helped to show that maybe Iraq and Bin Laden could have had some ties.

Disagreeable didn't post those, Disagreeab1e did. DIS is agreeing with Kola, Dis1 posted those contrary to DIS and Kola's beliefs.

I kinda like having Dis1 around :)

Thanks for pointing that out. I thought Dis was bipolar or had split personalities or something. :lol: Going to have to watch that closely.
 

kolanuraven

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Hey, I heard the sainted George the 2nd say himself that Iraq/Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9-11.

I can't remember the date but it was in a press conference . I remember it ONLY because I was stunned to hear him answer a question with that answer!!!

I'm sure it can be found with a massive search.
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
Hey, I heard the sainted George the 2nd say himself that Iraq/Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9-11.

I can't remember the date but it was in a press conference . I remember it ONLY because I was stunned to hear him answer a question with that answer!!!

I'm sure it can be found with a massive search.

When did anyone ever say Saddam or Iraq was responsible for 911 and who cares rather he was or was not? I doubt he had any thing directly to do with 911.

You have to think of the War on Terror like a World War. Germany did not bomb Pearl Harbour, Japan did. But they were allies to Japan and Hitler was a bad man doing bad things.

Saddam supported Terror, used WMD's on his people. Broke the Treaty agreement after the Gulf War and shared the same interest as Al Qaeda to destroy the U.S. and the Jews. and now he will hang for it.

How sad it must be that a persons Political beliefs lead them down a road to defend the ousting and removal of Saddam. Maybe that is why Liberals are always so angry, they have to take sides with bad evil men.
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
Why didn't we go into Dafur and Rwanda if we are opposed to genocide? It's unfortunately not so simple as Saddam was a bad man and hurt the Kurts and Shi'ites and the U.S. being good people rushed into Iraq. In fact, why didn't we finish the job after the Gulf War then? Why did we arm Saddam Hussain against Iran then?

We did not go to Iraq because of Genocide. Why is so hard to understand that we are cleaning up those that are a threat to the U.S. Dafar and Rwanda were not security threats to the U.S. Rwanda even though it has it problems did not pose a clear and present danger to the U.S.

At one time Iraq was valuable to us because Iran was a bigger threat. We stayed neutral in the Iran/Iraq war until we feared Iran would win and it was important to us that Iran did not win this war.

Things change one day Japan is one of our worse enemies and years later they are one of our biggest allies. There is not etching this all in stone, relations with Muslim Nations will probably be a Bi Polar relationship for years to come.

Why did we not finish Saddam off during the Gulf War? because it was not ever the purpose of the U.N. coalition to remove Saddam. The mission was to liberate Kuwait. Basically Saddam waived the white flag and signed a peace treaty with the U.N. We would have alienated our allies at the time if we would have pressed on with out U.N. support. Plus the U.S. actually believed that Saddam would be over thrown by an internal coup, which did not happen. It was tragic that we did not help the Iraqi people to over throw him as they were led to believe.
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
What is really behind the concern about the war in Iraq is whether it was BETTER or WORSE for U.S. National Security, in light of the war becoming protracted and the tactics resulting in a growing insurgency and new terrorists being recruited and trained as a result.

Doesn't seem like they had a hard time recruiting before the Iraq war! Lets see a couple embassies were hit, world trade center twice. Hit one of our ships, an apartment building in Saudi were Americans lived.

These people (terrorist) whole life is terror. They do not have a problem recruiting members, crap they raise their own children up to be suicide bombers. Their Religious leaders teach it to the young children.

All Iraq did was bring them to one place. Instead of getting on one of our planes and flying into American buildings.

Believe me if we pull everyone out of Iraq, they will start planning how to hit Americans again at home. They will not give up until the Jews are all dead or we quit protecting them. Genocide of the Jews might be the only way to get them to leave us alone.

If we run from them they will come looking for us. They been looking for us for a bunch of years now. They will just keep coming. That is why I say stay in Iraq and localize the fight.

A person has to realize that their religion teaches that they should either convert us to Muslims, make us slaves or Kill us!

They are not hypocrites this is what they believe and they practice what they believe. It is hard for some Americans to believe because most professed Christians do not have the same convictions in their religion as these people do.
 

RoperAB

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Its about the oil revenue in Iraq and how it can be used against us. Thats why its so important. The islamofacist need money or they cant fight.
 

aplusmnt

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RoperAB said:
Its about the oil revenue in Iraq and how it can be used against us. Thats why its so important. The islamofacist need money or they cant fight.

That is a good point you brought out. That is why we do not have one tenth the problems in Afghanistan as we do in Iraq. Afghan is not a big oil producer. Al Qaeda basically called Afghanistan their home, but they are not putting up much of a fight for it, our soldiers are there also. But they know Iraq gets more press and has more at stake in regards there interest in the region.

If the Islamofacist could control the oil in Iraq, and then they also control Iran's oil. They would have an endless supply of money and power.

This is another reason why we should not leave. The instability it would cause in the Word oil trade would be very devastating. Let alone what was being sold would help fund terrorist interest around the World.
 

RoperAB

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Afghanistan is not won yet and it is a problem. Its important because of the herion trade and the money it raises for the islamofacist global war effort.
BTW the islamofacist are putting up a fight in Afghanistan but if you pull out of Iraq it will just free up more resources of the islamofacist to put into Afghanistan.
 

aplusmnt

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RoperAB said:
Afghanistan is not won yet and it is a problem. Its important because of the herion trade and the money it raises for the islamofacist global war effort.
BTW the islamofacist are putting up a fight in Afghanistan but if you pull out of Iraq it will just free up more resources of the islamofacist to put into Afghanistan.

Wonder what Muhammad thinks of his followers Heroin business? I guess he would justify it, since for the Muslims the end justifies the means.
 

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