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More Gun Legislation Doublespeak

Mike

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When they admit publicly their gun control legislation won't work, it's a red herring for wanting to outlaw all guns. Except maybe shotguns for now.


Appearing on CBS News' Face the Nation on April 14, Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) said Newtown families have told him they know the bill he and Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA) have crafted would not have prevented the heinous crime at Sandy Hook Elementary.
In other words, Manchin's expanded background check "compromise" bill, being pushed in response to Newtown, does not do anything that would have stopped the Newtown tragedy from happening.
Manchin said the families to whom he's spoken just keep urging him to do something in hopes that somewhere down the road new gun control legislation will "prevent one family from...going through what [Newtown] families went through."
Senator Toomey was also on Face the Nation. And he said: "I acknowledge, there's no single bill that is a panacea for [gun crime], nothing guarantees that a committed criminal isn't going to find a way to get a gun."
Connecticut had the 5th most stringent gun control laws in the nation when Adam Lanza committed his crime. These included background checks and an "assault weapons" ban.
 

Steve

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even if they re-instated the expired assault weapons ban.. it would NOT have covered the weapon used...

The rifle he used, a .223-caliber Bushmaster M4 carbine, was legal under Connecticut’s “assault weapon” ban, which is similar to the federal law that expired in 2004. Both laws, in addition to listing specifically prohibited models, cover semiautomatic rifles that accept detachable magazines and have at least two out of five features: 1) a folding or telescoping stock, 2) a pistol grip, 3) a bayonet mount, 4) a grenade launcher, and 5) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor. The configuration of the rifle used by Lanza, which his mother legally purchased and possessed in Connecticut, evidently was not covered by that definition. . .

But under Connecticut's firearms laws, considered strong by national standards, the lethal weapon that Lanza employed was perfectly legal to own.

Connecticut has an assault-weapons ban, modeled after a federal law that was enacted in 1994 before expiring a decade later. But it takes more than a dark fiberglass body and a menacing shape to fall under the ban.

The Connecticut law restricts semi-automatic rifles — those capable of firing a bullet with each pull of the trigger — only if they include a detachable magazine as well as at least two of five specific features. One of those features — a pistol grip — is ubiquitous on military-style weapons. But to be banned, an AR-15-style rifle would also need to include a folding or telescoping stock, a bayonet mount, a grenade launcher or a flash suppressor, a device typically screwed on to the end of the muzzle to limit the bright flash caused by gunpowder that ignites outside of the muzzle.

Aware of the restrictions in some states, weapons manufacturers have modified some models to stay within the laws. Bushmaster, for example, offers a "state-compliant" model with a telescoping stock that simply has been pinned in the fully open position, making it legal for sale.

so really what good is a ban on a gun that looks "scarey"

or a background check that doesn't stop a criminal or person with a severe mental problem from getting a gun... ?
 

Steve

Well-known member
out of the last dozen mass shootings.. would any of them have been stopped by a complete and total requirement of every person who sold or transferred a weapon to pass a background check?
 
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