Mike said:
OT wrote:
And Perry wants to secede from the union?...
Mind giving us a quote where Perry said he wanted to secede? :lol:
Didn't think so. Man, you are just way too easy. :roll:
perry sure does want you to think he might secede.
perry's just a flip floppen around again. makes one wonder ??? his rooten-tooten, yee-haw, style politics, just ain't what the USA needs. it wasn't what Texas needed either...
Rick Perry / Austin Tea Party ::: On Secession and "Right Wing Extremism"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5xTxcFA398
Countdown: Rick Perry's Secession Remarks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4NZnHDmnu8
FOX NEWS
Gov. Rick Perry: Texas Could Secede, Leave Union
AP | 04/15/09 06:58 PM
AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"
An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall -- one of three tea parties he was attending across the state -- that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.
Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.
Perry called his supporters patriots. Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.
"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
He said when Texas entered the union in 1845 it was with the understanding it could pull out. However, according to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission, Texas negotiated the power to divide into four additional states at some point if it wanted to but not the right to secede.
Texas did secede in 1861, but the North's victory in the Civil War put an end to that.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html
TEXAS
Perry stands by secession comments
Governor says Texas is one state that could leave union, though he's not pushing it. By W. Gardner Selby, Jason Embry AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF Friday, April 17, 2009 Gov. Rick Perry on Thursday stuck by his earlier statement that Texas can secede from the United States — a far-reaching, legally questionable prospect that nevertheless drew Perry a fresh favorable mention by Rush Limbaugh, one of the nation's leading conservative voices.
The idea of secession — which Perry did not endorse — surfaced suddenly Wednesday after Perry appeared at an anti-tax "tea party" at Austin City Hall, where some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"
According to The Associated Press, Perry suggested in response to a reporter's question that Texans might at some point get so fed up with Democratic-led actions in Washington that they would want to secede.
"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
On Thursday, Perry called potential secession a "side issue of Texas history. ... We are very proud of our Texas history; people discuss and debate the issues of can we break ourselves into five states, can we secede, a lot of interesting things that I'm sure Oklahoma and Pennsylvania would love to be able to say about their states, but the fact is, they can't because they're not Texas."
A Perry spokeswoman said Perry believes Texas could secede if it wanted.
Sanford Levinson, a professor at the School of Law at the University of Texas at Austin, said that between the Texas Constitution, the U.S. Constitution and the 1845 Joint Resolution Annexing Texas to the United States, there is no explicit right for the state to return to its days as a republic.
"We actually fought a war over this issue, and there is no possibility whatsoever that the United States or any court would recognize a 'right' to secede," Levinson said in an e-mail.
Levinson noted that the 1845 resolution allows for Texas to break itself into five states but doesn't specify whether that would require congressional approval — and forming new states still wouldn't constitute secession.
Limbaugh said on his program Thursday that Perry's speculation on the possibility of secession might awaken conservatives to actions by the federal government that he described as abusing citizens.
"This is not insignificant when the governor of Texas talks about 'we could secede,' " Limbaugh said, according to audio of his comments and a transcript posted online by Media Matters for America, a liberal group that says it corrects conservative misinformation in the media.
Also Thursday, Perry fielded a warm response from more than 800 members of the Texas Federation of Republican Women lunching at the Austin Convention Center.
The group also heard from his expected 2010 GOP primary challenger, U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison.
Both drew ovations, though Perry appeared to have the upper hand with audience members who gave him an additional ovation after he reminded them of his desire to see a change in state law requiring voters to present a photo ID at the polls.
Referring to three anti-tax "tea parties" he attended Wednesday, Perry said he felt invigorated and proud of Texans.
"We're fed up with what's coming out of Washington," he said.
He also said that one reason Democrats succeeded nationally last year is that "a lot of us who have worn the jersey of the Republican team have been playing like Democrats"— almost certainly a stab at Hutchison, a senator since 1993.
Perry also saluted state Rep. Brandon Creighton, R-Conroe, the author of a nonbinding resolution to remind Congress of the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
"I'm talking about states' rights," Perry said.
The governor drew little attention last week when he endorsed Creighton's resolution. But by Tuesday, the online Drudge Report had posted a Perry news release on the proposal. Talk show hosts including conservatives Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage and Laura Ingraham shortly picked up the story.
And the governor's Web site has been visited more than 300,000 times since Tuesday, compared with 5,000 times on a typical day, while a video of Perry's appearance with Creighton and other legislators made the top 100 watched videos on the YouTube site.
Hutchison fired an arrow in Perry's direction at the lunch, reminding the red-jacketed activists that Republicans have lost ground in the Texas House as well as local offices in what had been GOP-leaning Harris, Bexar and Dallas counties.
"We have got to regear," Hutchison said.
Referring to grass-roots Republican women, Hutchison said: "We built the Republican Party, and we are going to have to save it."
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Additional material by staff writer Danny Yadron.
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/04/17/0417gop.html
