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Iraq Troop Withdrawal
63% Want Troops Home From Iraq Within Year
Tuesday, November 20, 2007

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 63% of Americans would like to see U.S. troops brought home from Iraq within a year. For the third week in a row, that figure is up two points from the week before. Over the last twelve weeks, the number wanting troops home within a year has ranged from a low of 57% to a high of 64%.

Twenty-eight percent (28%) now want the troops brought home immediately. That’s also up two points from a week ago.

Looking at the other end of the spectrum, 32% now want troops to remain in Iraq until the mission is complete. That figure has ranged from 32% to 38% over the past twelve weeks.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of women want troops out of Iraq within a year. Fifty-seven percent (57%) of men share that view.

All questions concerning Iraq reveal stark partisan differences.

Eighty-three percent (83%) of Democrats want the troops to come home within a year. Fifty-three percent (53%) of Republicans believe the troops should remain until the mission is complete.

As for those not affiliated with either major party, 61% want the troops home within a year. Thirty-two percent (32%) take the opposite view and say they should remain.
 

Red Robin

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Oldtimer said:
Iraq Troop Withdrawal
63% Want Troops Home From Iraq Within Year
Tuesday, November 20, 2007

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 63% of Americans would like to see U.S. troops brought home from Iraq within a year. For the third week in a row, that figure is up two points from the week before. Over the last twelve weeks, the number wanting troops home within a year has ranged from a low of 57% to a high of 64%.

Twenty-eight percent (28%) now want the troops brought home immediately. That’s also up two points from a week ago.

Looking at the other end of the spectrum, 32% now want troops to remain in Iraq until the mission is complete. That figure has ranged from 32% to 38% over the past twelve weeks.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of women want troops out of Iraq within a year. Fifty-seven percent (57%) of men share that view.

All questions concerning Iraq reveal stark partisan differences.

Eighty-three percent (83%) of Democrats want the troops to come home within a year. Fifty-three percent (53%) of Republicans believe the troops should remain until the mission is complete.

As for those not affiliated with either major party, 61% want the troops home within a year. Thirty-two percent (32%) take the opposite view and say they should remain.
Any moron would like to see the troops home now. What was the actual question polled?
 
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Red Robin said:
Oldtimer said:
Iraq Troop Withdrawal
63% Want Troops Home From Iraq Within Year
Tuesday, November 20, 2007

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 63% of Americans would like to see U.S. troops brought home from Iraq within a year. For the third week in a row, that figure is up two points from the week before. Over the last twelve weeks, the number wanting troops home within a year has ranged from a low of 57% to a high of 64%.

Twenty-eight percent (28%) now want the troops brought home immediately. That’s also up two points from a week ago.

Looking at the other end of the spectrum, 32% now want troops to remain in Iraq until the mission is complete. That figure has ranged from 32% to 38% over the past twelve weeks.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of women want troops out of Iraq within a year. Fifty-seven percent (57%) of men share that view.

All questions concerning Iraq reveal stark partisan differences.

Eighty-three percent (83%) of Democrats want the troops to come home within a year. Fifty-three percent (53%) of Republicans believe the troops should remain until the mission is complete.

As for those not affiliated with either major party, 61% want the troops home within a year. Thirty-two percent (32%) take the opposite view and say they should remain.
Any moron would like to see the troops home now. What was the actual question polled?

Looks pretty straight forward to me........

1* When it comes to the War in Iraq, should the United States withdraw all combat troops immediately, bring the combat troops home within a year, or stay until the mission is completed?


28% Withdraw all combat troops immediately

35% Bring combat troops home within a year

32% Stay until the mission is complete

5% Not sure
 

Red Robin

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So are you telling me that 83% of registered democrats want our troops brought home within a year regardless of how it affects Iraq or their OWN COUNTRY??? :mad: I guarantee you much less than 83% of the fighting men and women in Iraq think we should take the cowards way out and cut and run.
 

Mike

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Even Hillary said that there would/should be troops in Iraq for another 10 years. :roll:

People can't really be this out of touch with reality?
 

Faster horses

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I rode on a plane to Texas and sat next to a young trooper fresh from Iraq. He says we need to be there, and we will always be there. He says the Iraqis are learning to help themselves and are helping themselves. He says Bush understands what is going on over there and he supports the President. He says the only way we will wonder what we were doing there is if Hillary becomes President and pulls the troops out of Iraq.
 
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Faster horses said:
I rode on a plane to Texas and sat next to a young trooper fresh from Iraq. He says we need to be there, and we will always be there. He says the Iraqis are learning to help themselves and are helping themselves. He says Bush understands what is going on over there and he supports the President. He says the only way we will wonder what we were doing there is if Hillary becomes President and pulls the troops out of Iraq.

If what your young trooper says is true- its too bad that GW has lost total credibility with the US populace and now at a time when he needs folks to believe him-- they don't.... :(

If this poll is close to being true (and Rasmussen is one of the top rated polling firms being within a percentage point of calling most the last major elections) only 53% of his own party support him....
Somewhere "we have a failure to communicate"..... :shock:
 

Tex

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Faster horses said:
I rode on a plane to Texas and sat next to a young trooper fresh from Iraq. He says we need to be there, and we will always be there. He says the Iraqis are learning to help themselves and are helping themselves. He says Bush understands what is going on over there and he supports the President. He says the only way we will wonder what we were doing there is if Hillary becomes President and pulls the troops out of Iraq.

We need to be there for what? The oil?

I don't particularly like the U.S. having to be policeman to the world. We have enough trouble policing our own streets and our own borders.
 
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Tex said:
Faster horses said:
I rode on a plane to Texas and sat next to a young trooper fresh from Iraq. He says we need to be there, and we will always be there. He says the Iraqis are learning to help themselves and are helping themselves. He says Bush understands what is going on over there and he supports the President. He says the only way we will wonder what we were doing there is if Hillary becomes President and pulls the troops out of Iraq.

We need to be there for what? The oil?

I don't particularly like the U.S. having to be policeman to the world. We have enough trouble policing our own streets and our own borders.

You mean our own borders that GW can't/refuses to secure...Thats the main place GW loses all credibility with everyone on his terror war argument...If there is such a terrorist threat to our homeland that we need to have troops fighting all over the world- then why the he!! isn't he doing anything to strengthen our border security and stopping the invasion of foreign invaders that could be carrying out such attacks :???:

Just makes his argument that we need to be there to prevent another 9/11 pretty questionable.....
 

Red Robin

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Faster horses said:
I rode on a plane to Texas and sat next to a young trooper fresh from Iraq. He says we need to be there, and we will always be there. He says the Iraqis are learning to help themselves and are helping themselves. He says Bush understands what is going on over there and he supports the President. He says the only way we will wonder what we were doing there is if Hillary becomes President and pulls the troops out of Iraq.
I've talked to several troops and they all say the same thing. I've heard an Iraqi young man speak here. He said they love our troops and pray for their success. I've talked to several people here at home and with the exception of a few democrats , all of them say finish the mission. I wonder about polls like these, if they're true, there's a segment of the U.S. that's really swallowing the media talking points, hook line and sinker. I personally don't think they're true.
 

passin thru

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I too have talked to many people and very few have wanted tocur and run. Of the military I have talked to, not one has wanted to leave until they are done.
These polls are hard to believe always but if you believe these polls then the military will not come home if we pull out if Iraq..........they will go to Iran...........after all the polls say so.


If the leftwing want to Honor the military..........then listen to what they have to say.
 
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passin thru said:
If the leftwing want to Honor the military..........then listen to what they have to say.

Like the young Blackhawk pilot that was chosen by his group to be their spokesman and ask GW on his last visit "When do we get to go home?"
 

Tex

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passin thru said:
I too have talked to many people and very few have wanted tocur and run. Of the military I have talked to, not one has wanted to leave until they are done.
These polls are hard to believe always but if you believe these polls then the military will not come home if we pull out if Iraq..........they will go to Iran...........after all the polls say so.


If the leftwing want to Honor the military..........then listen to what they have to say.

They can probably get a job with Blackwater.

I would like to see Blackwater type operations being funded by the Iraqis themselves. Right now the U.S. taxpayer is footing the bill on both ends--more spending on the military and higher oil prices (although I think a strong case can be made that the oil profits are a result of the bottleneck in refineries after the industry consolidation and a limp dollar).

They may need/want the U.S. military, but let them pay for it. Anyone will take freebies---even if they don't need them.
 

passin thru

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You are right that their are a few military want to come home now. You also have all of them that want to come home, most just want to finish their job first. However the majority want to stay and finish.


If the leftwing want to Honor the military..........then listen to what they have to say
 

backhoeboogie

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Mike said:
People can't really be this out of touch with reality?

Hey Mike. Where you been? You been reading this forum much? There are some folks way out of touch. Really far out there. It is not really a gleam in their eye but rather a hole in the backs of their head that lets the light through. The liberal media could sell them a ski rig in the middle of the desert.
 

Tex

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passin thru said:
You are right that their are a few military want to come home now. You also have all of them that want to come home, most just want to finish their job first. However the majority want to stay and finish.


If the leftwing want to Honor the military..........then listen to what they have to say

What finish? There is no definable finish. The Iraqis themselves are not stepping up to the plate and handling their own problems. They have had years of training for their military/police to provide security and have had plenty of time to work out their political differences. The reasons we have not left yet center around these two issues.

At this point, I think we need to honor the military for their job and service to our country and bring them home. Who knows when they will have to fight a more strategically important war? Fixing the problems in Iraq is not their mission and they are not even trained to do it. It is nation building. The military is a very blunt and powerful instrument. It can not create the finesse needed to "finish" this job. We are not the world's "momma".

The military should listen to the political leadership and the chain of command. That includes the president and the congress's purse strings. That is how our military works. If military personnel want to keep fighting in Iraq, let them be hired by the Iraqis. Personally I want my tax money spent on more beneficial things for people in this country---including taking care of the wounded troops that come home and honoring all the promises we made to our men and women in uniform. We also need to rebuild what we have spent in Iraq which may take a long time. It has been a very costly endeavor.
 

Steve

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The military is a very blunt and powerful instrument. It can not create the finesse needed to "finish" this job.

While I doubt you intended that as an insult.... it is.

But then again Liberals never fail to find some way to insult our troops..

They did an incredibly effective job in post war Japan and Germany...

The Military can and has had the Finesse to finish the job,...

Todays relative "calm" shows that when let loose they can not only project power, but that they can do it with "finesse"... that allows the Iraqi people to turn to them and against terrorism...
 

aplusmnt

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Tex said:
We need to be there for what? The oil?

I am not a believer that the reason we went to Iraq was for the oil. But I have no problem staying there for it.

The President has a responsibility to protect the finances of America as much as our physical safety. If pulling out of Iraq would allow the oil fields to fall into the hands of Iran and allow them to have a larger strong hold on the U.S. economy then stay and control the oil.

If oil makes the world go around then lets keep those reserves out of our enemy Iran's hands and under our control.

You guys look at as if the only advantage is for the oil companies to get richer. But in reality stability also benefits the poor and middle class Americans just as much.

And how stupid would it be to leave Iraq until we know exactly how things are going to stand with Iran?

Only idiots would pull out of Iraq before we know rather or not a war with Iran is in our near future. Staying in Iraq for the time being is the only option America has. And I am getting tired of idiots not realizing what must be done. We do not live in a Fantasy land. It takes retardation to believe we should leave Iraq, with a war in Iran so possible.

Leaving Iraq right now would be like a retiring Cattleman selling his Stock Trailer before he halls his last load of Cattle to the Market.
 

Tex

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Steve said:
The military is a very blunt and powerful instrument. It can not create the finesse needed to "finish" this job.

While I doubt you intended that as an insult.... it is.

But then again Liberals never fail to find some way to insult our troops..

They did an incredibly effective job in post war Japan and Germany...

The Military can and has had the Finesse to finish the job,...

Todays relative "calm" shows that when let loose they can not only project power, but that they can do it with "finesse"... that allows the Iraqi people to turn to them and against terrorism...

When the war started, I made the comment to a friend that I didn't think enough people were getting killed to change things.

It reminds me of an old cow a friend of mine had. He was getting up there in age and had been recently run up a tree because of this cow and her overprotective nature around her calf. Good traits in the right environment, but not for my friend. He asked if I would help him out. He made a rod about an inch and a half thick and 6 feet long out of a small tree. It was a green rod and had a little spring to it, but not too much because of the thickness.

We (he) had the cow penned up in a small pen and gave the rod to me. When the cow turned around to charge me, and believe me, she was charging, I raised the rod and hit her as hard as I could right on the head. Had the rod been dry, I am sure it would have killed that cow. As it was, I knocked that cow silly. She swooned and fell to her knees.

She never did chase my friend around after that but he always had to carry a rod with him when he went to move the cattle around (he was doing the intensive grazing management).

He finally got rid of that cow---she was in the wrong cattle program and her annual calf wasn't worth the trouble. You can buy a calf from her from the market (oil).

We need to get out of Iraq. We don't need to keep losing our troops for an old cow that doesn't want to change and is making no moves toward that change.

We need to get off of oil.

Our troops are best at wielding that rod and striking.

They shouldn't be nation builders.

It is time to take that old cow to the auction.
 

Steve

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Tex
He finally got rid of that cow---she was in the wrong cattle program and her annual calf wasn't worth the trouble.

I can see "getting rid of the cow",..and doing it at the right time...and on our terms

but not shooting it,.. it's calf ,.. and yourself in the ass while you run out of the barn...
 
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