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mrj--comment please

Tex

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MRJ, Please read the "Fascist Judges" post and the court decision. I would like you to discuss the "robber" part as it exists in law via this decision and then defend the NCBA's leadership in the industry.
 

mrj

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Tex (or 'econ' reincarnated?.....reminds me of that cowboy poem about reincarnation, somehow!)

I quickly skimmed through that 'brief'.

1. NCBA is not an organization of chicken producers and leadership is directed by the cattle producer members. That you and other non-members may disagree with NCBA members decisions is not a problem for me and the more than 29,000 other NCBA members.

2. I'm not getting into a discussion of legal briefs regarding bad contracts because I just can't imagine signing a contract that my attorney did not check out for me. My attorney would never recommend I sign such a contract, therefore I would not be in that position and find it difficult to understand why anyone would do so.

It has long been apparent that far too many liberal judges at all levels have been legislating from the bench rather than clarifying what the laws actually were designed to state.


mrj
 

Tex

Well-known member
mrj said:
Tex (or 'econ' reincarnated?.....reminds me of that cowboy poem about reincarnation, somehow!)

I quickly skimmed through that 'brief'.

1. NCBA is not an organization of chicken producers and leadership is directed by the cattle producer members. That you and other non-members may disagree with NCBA members decisions is not a problem for me and the more than 29,000 other NCBA members.

2. I'm not getting into a discussion of legal briefs regarding bad contracts because I just can't imagine signing a contract that my attorney did not check out for me. My attorney would never recommend I sign such a contract, therefore I would not be in that position and find it difficult to understand why anyone would do so.

It has long been apparent that far too many liberal judges at all levels have been legislating from the bench rather than clarifying what the laws actually were designed to state.

The guy running GIPSA, James Link, was pulled from the NCBA ranks. It is he (and Jo Ann Waterfield before him) who has not done the rule making referenced in the case. Look at the excuse for rules he wants to make. The NCBA hand is all over this one.

All those growers had the chance to either sign a new contract or have no new birds. Just think if you had only one buyer. It wouldn't really matter if your lawyer read it or not, you would still have to sign if you wanted to sell cattle. That is where the cattle business is headed, whether you can see it or not.

Whether you see it or not, the fact that your members in NCBA are also poultry processors matters. When poultry processors are able to get their supplies by using their market power against producers, it lowers the cost of chickens. When that happens, more chickens come off the supermarket shelf than beef. As RM pointed out, you are getting less and less market share by following packer policies.

Results matter and the NCBA is not providing those results for producers--they are providing it for themselves. You are just not bright enough to see that they are in it for their own interests, not yours.

The contract problems you now see in poultry is going to happen in beef as soon as supplies are tied up as they are in poultry.

Look at the case closely. You will be there soon.




mrj

PS--I knew you wouldn't be able to understand the case or implications it has for the beef industry. Thanks for admitting you won't even try.
 
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