Faster horses
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What I posted was not accurate.
My apologies.
My apologies.
Forwarded email claims President Obama has funded a $20 million resettlement of Hamas refugeesto the United States via H.R. 1388 (aka H.B. 1388), a bill supposedly passed 'behind our backs' in Congress.
Analysis:This message promotes the false impression that H.R. 1388 (aka "H.B. 1388"), which was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Obama in 2009, allocated taxpayer fundsto resettle Hamas refugees in the United States. It did not.
H.R. 1388, The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, simply revised and reauthorized existing public service programs (such as AmeriCorps), increasing their scope and funding. (It did not, contraryto another false rumor, make public service "mandatory.") Far from being passed "behind our backs," the legislation won media attention during House and Senate debates, passed Congress with bipartisan support, and was signed into law with all the usual public hoopla. It is true that in January 2009 President Obama signed a memorandumto the State Dept. (not an executive order, but comparableto one) authorizing $20.3 million in humanitarian aidto Palestinian refugees in Gaza.
However, as anyone can easily ascertain by simply reading the document, the memorandum did not order, request, or even propose the resettlement of refugees in the United States.
The email's "itemized list" of other actions taken in the early days of the Obama administration is roughly accurate, albeit cherry-picked, decontextualized, and spun in a manner consistent with the overall political bias of the message.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/hr_1388_hamas_resettlement.htm
It is true that in January 2009 President Obama signed a memorandum to the State Dept. (not an executive order, but comparable to one) authorizing $20.3 million in humanitarian aid to Palestinian refugees in Gaza.
Oldtimer said:I don't like foreign aid going anywhere-- but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it--as it is a mere pittance especially when compared to the $Zillions GW poured into Iraq to build superhighways in the sand-or payoff money to the Mullahs-- and epsecially after he and all his advisors lied to us and said it wouldn't cost any taxpayer dollars to rebuild Iraq...
Remember all the "Iraq is a rich country and can fund their own reconstruction" stories that came out pre invasion time :???: At least this was done in the open-- and we weren't lied to like GW's boys did...
Steve said:do you believe in personal responsibility?Oldtimer said:I don't like foreign aid going anywhere-- but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it--as it is a mere pittance especially when compared to the $Zillions GW poured into Iraq to build superhighways in the sand-or payoff money to the Mullahs-- and epsecially after he and all his advisors lied tous and said it wouldn't cost any taxpayer dollars to rebuild Iraq... Remember all the "Iraq is a rich country and can fund their own reconstruction" stories that came out pre invasion time :???: At least this was done in the open-- and we weren't lied to like GW's boys did...
"Iraq is a very wealthy country. Enormous oil reserves. They can finance, largely finance the reconstruction of their own country. And I have no doubt that they will."
- Richard Perle, Chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, 7/11/02
"The likely economic effects [of the war in Iraq] would be relatively small... Under every plausible scenario, the negative effect will be quite small relative to the economic benefits."
- Lawrence Lindsey, White House Economic Advisor, 9/16/02
"It is unimaginable that the United States would have to contribute hundreds of billions of dollars and highly unlikely that we would have to contribute even tens of billions of dollars."
- Kenneth M. Pollack, former Director for Persian Gulf Affairs, U.S. National Security Council, 9/02
"The costs of any intervention would be very small."
- Glenn Hubbard, White House Economic Advisor, 10/4/02
"When it comes to reconstruction, before we turn to the American taxpayer, we will turn first to the resources of the Iraqi government and the international community."
- Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, 3/27/03
"There is a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. We are talking about a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."
- Paul Wolfowitz, U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense, testifying before the Defense Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, 3/27/03
"The United States is committed to helping Iraq recover from the conflict, but Iraq will not require sustained aid."
- Mitchell Daniels, Director, White House Office of Management and Budget, 4/21/03
"Iraq has tremendous resources that belong to the Iraqi people. And so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burden for ther own reconstruction."
- Ari Fleischer, White House Press Secretary, 2/18/03
Oldtimer said:Steve said:do you believe in personal responsibility?Oldtimer said:I don't like foreign aid going anywhere-- but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it--as it is a mere pittance especially when compared to the $Zillions GW poured into Iraq to build superhighways in the sand-or payoff money to the Mullahs-- and epsecially after he and all his advisors lied tous and said it wouldn't cost any taxpayer dollars to rebuild Iraq... Remember all the "Iraq is a rich country and can fund their own reconstruction" stories that came out pre invasion time :???: At least this was done in the open-- and we weren't lied to like GW's boys did...
Yep- and honesty....
I'm not- I'm just saying in comparison- and since it was done openly- not with the mess of lies surrounding GW-- its a pittance....Just continuance of a practice ofUS sending foreign aid to all those in need during emergency situations.. And like I said- not something I agree with..Steve said:so since the post was about Obama signing a Memorandun giving the Palestinians 20.3 million, with no congressional oversight, how can you blame that on Bush?Oldtimer said:Yep- and honesty....Steve said:do you believe in personal responsibility?
Steve said:Oldtimer said:
jingo2 said:Man, this Fh will fall for ANYTHING........ EVERY TIME..... it seems.
Lady, do you ever stop, think and ask questions BEFORE you start in on something ????
Liveoak said:jingo2 said:Man, this Fh will fall for ANYTHING........ EVERY TIME..... it seems.
Lady, do you ever stop, think and ask questions BEFORE you start in on something ????
Say what?