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Mytty Angus Sale report

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103 bulls averaged $3455

Top seller was Mytty Thunderstruck selling for $42,000
to Thunderstruck Syndicate.

Next was Sitz Upward, for $9000 going to Tuhy Angus in ND.

Third high seller was Mytty In Focus out of a Really Windy dam,
selling for $6750; then the next high seller was Mytty In Focus son,
going for $6500.
 
Glad they had a great sale and everyone is happy. Several hundred heifers here we bred to In focus in a wide varity of operations. The fellas are really down on those 40 50 pound intbittys. Buyers here are going back to normal sized calves. The 40 pounders just do not make it here in a very mild climate. It itty bitiys sell at ittbitty price. The ones that live.
 
All the In Focus calves I've talked to guys about average 70-75 pounds but hit the ground running and grow into soggy weaned calves. My cousin kept 8 In Focus daughters this year as replacements. I havent heard a word about tiny calves!
 
When was this sale?

I see in the March /April news they were already thanking the Thunderstruck Associates for purchasing him. The Deadline would probably been 3 weeks ago.At least.
 
Been thinking of using this In Focus son on my heifers this year.
http://www.selectsiresbeef.com/index.php?option=com_php&Itemid=114&id=127&breed=Angus
Any opinions welcome.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
When was this sale?

I see in the March /April news they were already thanking the Thunderstruck Associates for purchasing him. The Deadline would probably been 3 weeks ago.At least.
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Motion/Promotion/Commotion
 
porter said:
Been thinking of using this In Focus son on my heifers this year.
http://www.selectsiresbeef.com/index.php?option=com_php&Itemid=114&id=127&breed=Angus
Any opinions welcome.
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I don't like his EN number but otherwise, he has the numbers to be a heifer bull. I like a tad smaller YW number too, but that's just me. You try him this year and then let me know if I should try him next year. :wink:
 
Denny said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
When was this sale?

I see in the March /April news they were already thanking the Thunderstruck Associates for purchasing him. The Deadline would probably been 3 weeks ago.At least.
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Motion/Promotion/Commotion
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Yeah- sale was March 1st but I read somewhere he was sold "private treaty" to a consortium quite some time prior to the sale (which caused some hard feelings with some interested in the bull)... They must have thrown the price into the sale prices to raise the sale average....

Motion/Promotion/Commotion
 
Oldtimer said:
Denny said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
When was this sale?

I see in the March /April news they were already thanking the Thunderstruck Associates for purchasing him. The Deadline would probably been 3 weeks ago.At least.
Click to expand...

Motion/Promotion/Commotion
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Yeah- sale was March 1st but I read somewhere he was sold "private treaty" to a consortium quite some time prior to the sale (which caused some hard feelings with some interested in the bull)... They must have thrown the price into the sale prices to raise the sale average....

Motion/Promotion/Commotion
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I was at the sale on March first and Thuderstruck was not sold "private treaty" before the sale. I am a member of this "consortium" of breeders.

There are 12 of us that pooled our money together to buy the half semen interest in Thunderstruck. Each of us put in what we could afford and then we got a percentage of the half we bought based on how much money we put in. Lucky 7 Angus in Wyoming was the contending bidder. Jerry Gliko had money from Lucky 7 to $30,000. When it hit $30k Jerry got him on the phone and they ran us to $42,000. That's the real story.

The bulls sold like crazy at Mytty's sale. The IN Focus still have been the highest selling group for the past 3-4 years, are darn good, and they must be working for somebody. Several bulls sold into WY, ID, WA, &OR. There were several bulls that sold for $3,500 to $5,000 to commercial and registered cattlemen. I have been to the sale for the past three years and they were the stoutest set of bulls yet.

Kevin has worked at putting a good group of cattle together that will work in any program. If you don't like his program or the bulls he produces, that's fine, but make sure you have your story straight before you start blowing smoke on here.
 
sic 'em reds said:
Oldtimer said:
Denny said:
Motion/Promotion/Commotion
Click to expand...

Yeah- sale was March 1st but I read somewhere he was sold "private treaty" to a consortium quite some time prior to the sale (which caused some hard feelings with some interested in the bull)... They must have thrown the price into the sale prices to raise the sale average....

Motion/Promotion/Commotion
Click to expand...

I was at the sale on March first and Thuderstruck was not sold "private treaty" before the sale. I am a member of this "consortium" of breeders.

There are 12 of us that pooled our money together to buy the half semen interest in Thunderstruck. Each of us put in what we could afford and then we got a percentage of the half we bought based on how much money we put in. Lucky 7 Angus in Wyoming was the contending bidder. Jerry Gliko had money from Lucky 7 to $30,000. When it hit $30k Jerry got him on the phone and they ran us to $42,000. That's the real story.

The bulls sold like crazy at Mytty's sale. The IN Focus still have been the highest selling group for the past 3-4 years, are darn good, and they must be working for somebody. Several bulls sold into WY, ID, WA, &OR. There were several bulls that sold for $3,500 to $5,000 to commercial and registered cattlemen. I have been to the sale for the past three years and they were the stoutest set of bulls yet.

Kevin has worked at putting a good group of cattle together that will work in any program. If you don't like his program or the bulls he produces, that's fine, but make sure you have your story straight before you start blowing smoke on here.
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Good for you!

I get sick of hearing people say that it is funny money, or nothing but promotion or trading money or whatever some call it. The fact is, that ussually when a bull sells for a pretty good chunk of money it is a real deal.
 
sic 'em reds said:
Oldtimer said:
Denny said:
Motion/Promotion/Commotion
Click to expand...

Yeah- sale was March 1st but I read somewhere he was sold "private treaty" to a consortium quite some time prior to the sale (which caused some hard feelings with some interested in the bull)... They must have thrown the price into the sale prices to raise the sale average....

Motion/Promotion/Commotion
Click to expand...

I was at the sale on March first and Thuderstruck was not sold "private treaty" before the sale. I am a member of this "consortium" of breeders.

There are 12 of us that pooled our money together to buy the half semen interest in Thunderstruck. Each of us put in what we could afford and then we got a percentage of the half we bought based on how much money we put in. Lucky 7 Angus in Wyoming was the contending bidder. Jerry Gliko had money from Lucky 7 to $30,000. When it hit $30k Jerry got him on the phone and they ran us to $42,000. That's the real story.

The bulls sold like crazy at Mytty's sale. The IN Focus still have been the highest selling group for the past 3-4 years, are darn good, and they must be working for somebody. Several bulls sold into WY, ID, WA, &OR. There were several bulls that sold for $3,500 to $5,000 to commercial and registered cattlemen. I have been to the sale for the past three years and they were the stoutest set of bulls yet.

Kevin has worked at putting a good group of cattle together that will work in any program. If you don't like his program or the bulls he produces, that's fine, but make sure you have your story straight before you start blowing smoke on here.
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Sic-em Reds-- I have nothing against the Mytty program- and have always liked the In Focus bull....One of the bigger, better, fasters I do like- and like the cattle the bull produces...I don't know how often, even on here, I touted the docility and depth the In Focus cattle have...I was upset when I had to sell an In Focus heifer this spring because she lost her calf...
And I know nothing of Thunderstruck except for the fancy emotion, promotion, commotion full page advertisement in the Mt Angus Journal...

I guess I was wrong in repeating rumormill and what is being posted on the other sites without verifying ...But thats part of what comes around with big money- and all the investment consortiums- and questions of "funny money" exchanges (and BRG as a brand inspector I do know those funny money exchanges do take place)-- is rumors....

One of the reasons I like the sales where the breeder/seller has the auctioneer announce the names of buyer(s) at time of sale (Big Dry and Cole Creek jump to mind first)...
 
Oldtimer said:
sic 'em reds said:
Oldtimer said:
Yeah- sale was March 1st but I read somewhere he was sold "private treaty" to a consortium quite some time prior to the sale (which caused some hard feelings with some interested in the bull)... They must have thrown the price into the sale prices to raise the sale average....

Motion/Promotion/Commotion
Click to expand...

I was at the sale on March first and Thuderstruck was not sold "private treaty" before the sale. I am a member of this "consortium" of breeders.

There are 12 of us that pooled our money together to buy the half semen interest in Thunderstruck. Each of us put in what we could afford and then we got a percentage of the half we bought based on how much money we put in. Lucky 7 Angus in Wyoming was the contending bidder. Jerry Gliko had money from Lucky 7 to $30,000. When it hit $30k Jerry got him on the phone and they ran us to $42,000. That's the real story.

The bulls sold like crazy at Mytty's sale. The IN Focus still have been the highest selling group for the past 3-4 years, are darn good, and they must be working for somebody. Several bulls sold into WY, ID, WA, &OR. There were several bulls that sold for $3,500 to $5,000 to commercial and registered cattlemen. I have been to the sale for the past three years and they were the stoutest set of bulls yet.

Kevin has worked at putting a good group of cattle together that will work in any program. If you don't like his program or the bulls he produces, that's fine, but make sure you have your story straight before you start blowing smoke on here.
Click to expand...

Sic-em Reds-- I have nothing against the Mytty program- and have always liked the In Focus bull....One of the bigger, better, fasters I do like- and like the cattle the bull produces...I don't know how often, even on here, I touted the docility and depth the In Focus cattle have...I was upset when I had to sell an In Focus heifer this spring because she lost her calf...
And I know nothing of Thunderstruck except for the fancy emotion, promotion, commotion full page advertisement in the Mt Angus Journal...

I guess I was wrong in repeating rumormill and what is being posted on the other sites without verifying ...But thats part of what comes around with big money- and all the investment consortiums- and questions of "funny money" exchanges (and BRG as a brand inspector I do know those funny money exchanges do take place)-- is rumors....

One of the reasons I like the sales where the breeder/seller has the auctioneer announce the names of buyer(s) at time of sale (Big Dry and Cole Creek jump to mind first)...
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I didn't say they didn't happen, but they don't happen as much as many say they do. Don't let a few ruin it all.
 
BRG said:
sic 'em reds said:
Oldtimer said:
Yeah- sale was March 1st but I read somewhere he was sold "private treaty" to a consortium quite some time prior to the sale (which caused some hard feelings with some interested in the bull)... They must have thrown the price into the sale prices to raise the sale average....

Motion/Promotion/Commotion
Click to expand...

I was at the sale on March first and Thuderstruck was not sold "private treaty" before the sale. I am a member of this "consortium" of breeders.

There are 12 of us that pooled our money together to buy the half semen interest in Thunderstruck. Each of us put in what we could afford and then we got a percentage of the half we bought based on how much money we put in. Lucky 7 Angus in Wyoming was the contending bidder. Jerry Gliko had money from Lucky 7 to $30,000. When it hit $30k Jerry got him on the phone and they ran us to $42,000. That's the real story.

The bulls sold like crazy at Mytty's sale. The IN Focus still have been the highest selling group for the past 3-4 years, are darn good, and they must be working for somebody. Several bulls sold into WY, ID, WA, &OR. There were several bulls that sold for $3,500 to $5,000 to commercial and registered cattlemen. I have been to the sale for the past three years and they were the stoutest set of bulls yet.

Kevin has worked at putting a good group of cattle together that will work in any program. If you don't like his program or the bulls he produces, that's fine, but make sure you have your story straight before you start blowing smoke on here.
Click to expand...

Good for you!

I get sick of hearing people say that it is funny money, or nothing but promotion or trading money or whatever some call it. The fact is, that ussually when a bull sells for a pretty good chunk of money it is a real deal.
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Thank you BRG

I get tired of all the funny money rumors too. I just get tired of the rumor mill crap that goes on here and with all these guys around our area wondering what we are doing getting involved with a deal like this. We finished up getting enough people together to buy the interest 15 minutes before the sale started. Sure, most of us are a bunch of no name breeders, but we saw an opportunity to gain ownership in a bull that will hopefully have a very bright future.

The fact of the matter is that Thunderstruck is the real deal kind of bull. Anybody can say that he is just another "bigger-better-faster". His iterim epds are +1.4 BW +44 WW, +88 YW +18 for Milk, scanned a 15.9 REA 4.69 IMF & had .33 Backfat, had a 4.55 ADG and weighed 1507 lbs at a year. He's full of muscle, got great structure and his feet were sound. Pictures are worth a thousand words, but until you see him in person, it's pretty hard to say he was not worth the money. He is sired by Connealy Thunder out of a 6595 dam who is a direct daughter of Sitz Everalda Entense 023. Yeah, he has some 598 in him, but who really knows if that will come back to haunt him for FCS.

Oh, and I bought the only other son of Upward in the sale, but he's just another bigger-better-faster bull too!!!!

I forgot to add that Thunderstruck framed out at right around 5.9
 
I also get tired of the rumors and inuendo about purebred breeders that seems to get introduced into every conversation lately. ALTEAST 95% of ALL seedstock producers are honest, hardworking, smart people who know that backroom deals and other BS only hurts their buisness. The other 5% must find lots of like-minded people to try to swindle from the horror stories on here! :wink: As far as Thunderstruck goes, I like his numbers, as they stand, better than his pops! At 1500+ as a yearling he may be bigger than I'd want though. Good luck to Mytty and to the consortium!
 
I am like "H" I am tired of reading about how purebred breeders are not the same as commercial cattle people, and are to be despised. The truth is they are different. We are all part of diamond, if you will; that has many facets or sides. Just as in life, there are the stars and supporting cast. We all have a part in making it shine! I personally thank the outside folks who invest in our industry. They have the money too lose in research and product development that make it affordable to the common cattle people.

The genetic end of the business is very expensive. Not every mating is a In Focus or Thunder Struck. Look at the cycles with in the purebred industry. Congratulations to the Mitty outfit for having "the in" cattle Next year it maybe someone else, who knows??


Remember is takes someone to pamper purebred cattle. So we have better commercial cattle.
 
jeff in ca said:
Remember is takes someone to pamper purebred cattle. So we have better commercial cattle.
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Yep- Jeff.... You are right, thats where much of the purebred industry/cattle have went.... But to me its the reason its harder to find good commercial cattle that work in most folks commercial operations....To me its where much of the purebred operation went wrong imho...

Bulls raised on creep feed from 2 months old on surrogate dams and fed til they wean at 900 lbs and fed in a feedlot until they weigh 1500-1600 lbs as yearlings- and live their lives walking around the corrals of a bull stud- tell me nothing of how their progeny will work in the real world...
 

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