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Nancy's Jet

quickdraw

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Anyone besides me offended by Nancy wanting to use a goverment jet for her personal entroge(SP) to travel from one coast to the other as the taxpayers expense? FOR security reasons needs one that can fly non stop?
Come on!!!
The cost of flying what she wants is in the $1000's of dollar per hour.
Just how big is her group anyway?
This is from a liberal who wants to cut spending? And reduce waste?
Who is she trying to kid other than herself?
I hope even the rest of her fellow liberals are getting the idea it is all about HER!!!! And to think i thought she might be a refreshing change, wrong!
 

Steve

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seems she doesn't want to fly commercial......What is it with liberals...don't they see how obnoxious they appear when they talk?

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will have access to an Air Force Jet larger than the one used by her predecessor so she can fly nonstop between Washington and her San Francisco district.

Pelosi’s office has been pressing for routine access to military aircraft not only for herself and her staff, but for relatives and other members of the California delegation as well.

Pelosi demanded access to the C-32, which seats 45 and has a stateroom for the primary passenger, a conference facility, an entertainment system and three convertible beds."
 

IL Rancher

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I believe the precident she is sighting is how the former speaker used the same planes, Denny Hastert (My lovely rep :roll: ) at least I seem to recall seeing that mentioned the first time this was reported. Doesn't make it any better, it shouldn't happen that way.
 

Steve

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while I agree Hastert shouldn't have had access to a plane either,..at least he wasn't stupid enough to stomp up to a podium and claim it was "deserved"


"I believe there is a way for Ms. Pelosi to travel non-stop in safety without bilking the taxpayers out of $22,000 per hour each time she flies from her district to The District."
 

aplusmnt

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I am not sure on this so correct me if I am wrong but I think Hastert started using a private plane after 911 for some sort of security reasons due to the fact that he was 2cd in line for president.

And that Pelosi's big tantrum is she wants a bigger one and to be able to haul her family also.

Libs like her that are so far left and off the wall, do not worry about how silly they look. They have pushed the envelope with their policies and continue to get elected time and time again. So they do not even give it a second thought to say or demand the things they do.
 

kolanuraven

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aplusmnt said:
I am not sure on this so correct me if I am wrong but I think Hastert started using a private plane after 911 for some sort of security reasons due to the fact that he was 2cd in line for president.



The Speaker is 3rd in line.....you forgot about the V Pres....which might be a good idea!
 

Red Robin

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kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
I am not sure on this so correct me if I am wrong but I think Hastert started using a private plane after 911 for some sort of security reasons due to the fact that he was 2cd in line for president.



The Speaker is 3rd in line.....you forgot about the V Pres....which might be a good idea!
I don't think you would count the president in the line to be president K Raven. He already is president. Of course you don't think he was elected but none the less, he's the president. The VP would be first in line and your buddy pelosi second (as was hasert).
 

passin thru

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The icing on the cake now seems to be ole Murtha dropping hints that funding for the Pentagon may suffer if they don't cave and hand Nancy her 757! Can you believe this? We have a Democrat congressman ... a congressman that was being considered for the position of House Majority Leader ... virtually threatening the our military with a loss of funding if they don't give his benefactor, Nancy Pelosi, a nice plush 757 to fly back and forth from DC to San Francisco!

It's gotta be Bush's fault..................
 

jigs

Well-known member
how soon until it becomes "a man would get it if he were speaker"

equal rights ruined this country.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Just watched last nights Nightline and they did a small report on it. So funny how they sweep things like this under the rug with it is a dem.

Only bad thing they hinted at was how someone at Pentagon leaked the story because of her being against the Iraq war. She demands bigger, non stop flights for family and friends and Nightline makes the story about the Iraq war. :mad:
 

floyd

Well-known member
And...Now...the Rest of the Story....

It appears that the Sargent at Arms of the House requested a DOD plane for the Speaker for the same security concerns that prompted Hastert's use of a DOD plane.

I read where the White House agrees with the Sargent at Arms.

Apparently a bigger plane is needed(wanted) because the plane Hastert used cannot carry enough fuel to fly nonstop to California.
 

nonothing

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Aplus,read the last paragraph......next time at least tell the whole story.....


February 8, 2007, 5:14 pm
‘Pelosi One’
By Carl Hulse

It is quite a ways from Washington to San Francisco by air but evidently nowhere near the size of the divide separating House Democrats and Republicans when it comes to the travel arrangements of Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Image from a National Republican Congressional Committee press release criticizing Mrs. Pelosi.Republicans, accusing Ms. Pelosi of adopting royal airs, on Thursday stepped up their campaign to portray her as “non-stop Nancy,” a luxury-loving San Franciscan, because her cross-country travel could require a larger military jet than that used to ferry former Speaker J. Dennis Hastert back and forth to his home in Illinois since the Sept. 11 attacks.
Ms. Pelosi and her fellow Democrats responded that security officials of the House had advised her to travel in a government plane and that if she had her way, she would go commercial. They suggested Republicans were hypocritical, scheming sexists who were trying to deny the new speaker the same protection afforded her male predecessor.
Things took flight from there in a House debate that impugned the speaker’s love of chocolate, aired views on the hazards of missed connections and middle seats, and considered whether Senator John McCain or Senator Barack Obama would draw bigger crowds in an airport.
The White House weighed in as well. “This is a silly story,” said its spokesman, Tony Snow, saying his party’s criticism of Ms. Pelosi has been unfair and that the administration essentially sided with her. The Pentagon in a letter to Mrs. Pelosi, dated Wednesday, said that it would provide shuttle support between her home district and Washington. “While every effort will always be made to provide nonstop shuttle support, such support is subject to aircraft type and availability and therefore may not always be guaranteed,” the letter said.
But the lift the story is getting illustrated that politicians are acutely aware that a jet-setting image can be dangerous; particularly given the travails of modern travel for average Americans. It took President Clinton a long time to live down the tale of whether his on-board haircut delayed other flights stacked up on the runway at Los Angeles airport. And the picture of Newt Gingrich complaining about his rear-exit departure from Air Force One did not help his image as a petulant pol.
Bill Livingood, sergeant-at-arms, said in a statement that the practice began with Mr. Hastert, and that he requested that Mrs. Pelosi receive similar security travel arrangements, and that he was the one who asked for her travel to be on nonstop flights. “I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue,'’ Mr. Livingood said.
 

Cal

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I think a compromise is in order. Let her fly on the smaller plane with the lesser cruising range, and have her go ahead and try to make the full distance nonstop anyway.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
I am not sure on this so correct me if I am wrong but I think Hastert started using a private plane after 911 for some sort of security reasons due to the fact that he was 2cd in line for president.



The Speaker is 3rd in line.....you forgot about the V Pres....which might be a good idea!

:lol: :lol: :lol: You were not very good at Math word problems were you in school? :lol: :lol: :lol:

You have the President

Then you have a line of people that would be President if the President Died

1st in Line would be Vice Pres
2cd in Line would be Speaker of the House

Do you understand now? Or should I use some Ducks or something to explain it to you? I know that helps my son to get his problems easier :wink:

If you are going to correct someone you really should give it some deep thought before doing so. Saves you from looking like an idiot. :lol:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
nonothing said:
Aplus,read the last paragraph......next time at least tell the whole story.....


February 8, 2007, 5:14 pm
‘Pelosi One’
By Carl Hulse

It is quite a ways from Washington to San Francisco by air but evidently nowhere near the size of the divide separating House Democrats and Republicans when it comes to the travel arrangements of Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Image from a National Republican Congressional Committee press release criticizing Mrs. Pelosi.Republicans, accusing Ms. Pelosi of adopting royal airs, on Thursday stepped up their campaign to portray her as “non-stop Nancy,” a luxury-loving San Franciscan, because her cross-country travel could require a larger military jet than that used to ferry former Speaker J. Dennis Hastert back and forth to his home in Illinois since the Sept. 11 attacks.
Ms. Pelosi and her fellow Democrats responded that security officials of the House had advised her to travel in a government plane and that if she had her way, she would go commercial. They suggested Republicans were hypocritical, scheming sexists who were trying to deny the new speaker the same protection afforded her male predecessor.
Things took flight from there in a House debate that impugned the speaker’s love of chocolate, aired views on the hazards of missed connections and middle seats, and considered whether Senator John McCain or Senator Barack Obama would draw bigger crowds in an airport.
The White House weighed in as well. “This is a silly story,” said its spokesman, Tony Snow, saying his party’s criticism of Ms. Pelosi has been unfair and that the administration essentially sided with her. The Pentagon in a letter to Mrs. Pelosi, dated Wednesday, said that it would provide shuttle support between her home district and Washington. “While every effort will always be made to provide nonstop shuttle support, such support is subject to aircraft type and availability and therefore may not always be guaranteed,” the letter said.
But the lift the story is getting illustrated that politicians are acutely aware that a jet-setting image can be dangerous; particularly given the travails of modern travel for average Americans. It took President Clinton a long time to live down the tale of whether his on-board haircut delayed other flights stacked up on the runway at Los Angeles airport. And the picture of Newt Gingrich complaining about his rear-exit departure from Air Force One did not help his image as a petulant pol.
Bill Livingood, sergeant-at-arms, said in a statement that the practice began with Mr. Hastert, and that he requested that Mrs. Pelosi receive similar security travel arrangements, and that he was the one who asked for her travel to be on nonstop flights. “I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue,'’ Mr. Livingood said.

Who knows maybe her Security Advisor requested it, maybe he is just taking heat off. I doubt stopping to re fuel at an Air force base would be much of a Security Risk do you?

Also how much more money do you think it would cost to fly the 43 passenger, 16 crew luxury suite compared to the Smaller Jet that has to refuel? How much Global Warming would she save?

Then she says she is not sure if it is because she is a woman or not :roll: But she will be shown the same respect as past Speakers of the House.

Well guess what no other speaker in the history of the U.S. has ever had that big of plane at their disposal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She is what she is, it is not that hard to tell. :roll:
 

Mike

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I don't understand the commotion with Pelosi and the jet. I "think" the alternative to the big jet she wants to ride in is a Gulfstream 5.

If in fact it is......the G5 will definitely go from DC to San Francisco without refueling. The G-5 will go completely around the world with just two fuel stops.

My buddy, who flies an older G-2 goes coast to coast (well, from Alabama to Bakersfield, Ca) almost weekly with fuel left over, and the G-2 is not nearly as fuel efficient as the G-5.

Seems to me nobody has called her hand on this yet? :???:

Just did some more checking around. The jet that Pelosi doesn't want to fly is a Gulfstream C-37 Five(5) with a range of around 6000 nautical miles. More than enough.

One problem though. It only holds 12 people............. :roll:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Mike said:
One problem though. It only holds 12 people............. :roll:

There lies the problem, not enough room for her entourage! She needs a crew like Mc Hammer did, and surely will bankrupt us much like he did.

I wonder if she has remodeled her office yet, got some gold fixtures and a little asian boy to stand behind her and fan her with one of them big leaves.

I bet the cleaning crew hates cleaning up at night having to sweep up all them Rose petals that she has thrown in front of her as she walks the halls.

She is the most important lady in the world now, she surely deserves special treatment.

Only good thing that come from Hitlery being president would be watching these two cat fight at each other :lol: Not room enough for two cooks in the kitchen.
 

memanpa

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Mike said:
I don't understand the commotion with Pelosi and the jet. I "think" the alternative to the big jet she wants to ride in is a Gulfstream 5.

If in fact it is......the G5 will definitely go from DC to San Francisco without refueling. The G-5 will go completely around the world with just two fuel stops.

My buddy, who flies an older G-2 goes coast to coast (well, from Alabama to Bakersfield, Ca) almost weekly with fuel left over, and the G-2 is not nearly as fuel efficient as the G-5.

Seems to me nobody has called her hand on this yet? :???:

Just did some more checking around. The jet that Pelosi doesn't want to fly is a Gulfstream C-37 Five(5) with a range of around 6000 nautical miles. More than enough.

One problem though. It only holds 12 people............. :roll:

i was going to suggest that KAKA loan her the "X" for the flights but then i realized that KAKA refuses to fly commercial and uses a "NON" existant 5000++ private runway (required by FAA regulations to show on a fight pattern map) that is over 3 hours from any place close to GA?
is KAKA above that law?or is she full of KAKA
 

nonothing

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Mike said:
I don't understand the commotion with Pelosi and the jet. I "think" the alternative to the big jet she wants to ride in is a Gulfstream 5.

If in fact it is......the G5 will definitely go from DC to San Francisco without refueling. The G-5 will go completely around the world with just two fuel stops.

My buddy, who flies an older G-2 goes coast to coast (well, from Alabama to Bakersfield, Ca) almost weekly with fuel left over, and the G-2 is not nearly as fuel efficient as the G-5.

Seems to me nobody has called her hand on this yet? :???:

Just did some more checking around. The jet that Pelosi doesn't want to fly is a Gulfstream C-37 Five(5) with a range of around 6000 nautical miles. More than enough.

One problem though. It only holds 12 people............. :roll:

At least bring the facts...no matter what the truth is you guys here try to find a way to spin it .......why not just leave it be rather then make it now all about the number of seats...You people will never just say ya ok our repub ask for it to work that way..

Bill Livingood, sergeant-at-arms, said in a statement that the practice began with Mr. Hastert, and that he requested that Mrs. Pelosi receive similar security travel arrangements, and that he was the one who asked for her travel to be on nonstop flights. “I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue,'’ Mr. Livingood said.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
memanpa said:
Mike said:
I don't understand the commotion with Pelosi and the jet. I "think" the alternative to the big jet she wants to ride in is a Gulfstream 5.

If in fact it is......the G5 will definitely go from DC to San Francisco without refueling. The G-5 will go completely around the world with just two fuel stops.

My buddy, who flies an older G-2 goes coast to coast (well, from Alabama to Bakersfield, Ca) almost weekly with fuel left over, and the G-2 is not nearly as fuel efficient as the G-5.

Seems to me nobody has called her hand on this yet? :???:

Just did some more checking around. The jet that Pelosi doesn't want to fly is a Gulfstream C-37 Five(5) with a range of around 6000 nautical miles. More than enough.

One problem though. It only holds 12 people............. :roll:

i was going to suggest that KAKA loan her the "X" for the flights but then i realized that KAKA refuses to fly commercial and uses a "NON" existant 5000++ private runway (required by FAA regulations to show on a fight pattern map) that is over 3 hours from any place close to GA?
is KAKA above that law?or is she full of KAKA

memnpa might be a while before she answers you, she is busy using her fingers to try to figure out how Pelosi is 2cd in line to the President she can not type and count at same time :lol:
 
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