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Napolitano Stands By DHS/RightWing Report

Mike

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Which Moonbat here questioned the validity of this report? :lol:

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report sent to law enforcement that lists veterans as a terrorist risk to the U.S. and defines "rightwing extremism" as including groups opposed to abortion and immigration.

The outcry resulted in a demand from the head of the American Legion to meet with Ms. Napolitano, a request the DHS chief said she would honor next week when she returns to Washington from her current tour of the U.S.-Mexican border.

"The document on right-wing extremism sent last week by this department´s Office of Intelligence and Analysis is one in an ongoing series of assessments to provide situational awareness to state, local and tribal law enforcement agencies on the phenomenon and trends of violent radicalization in the United States," Ms. Napolitano said in a statement.



"I was briefed on the general topic, which is one that struck a nerve as someone personally involved in the Timothy McVeigh prosecution," Ms. Napolitano said.

"Let me be very clear: we monitor the risks of violent extremism taking root here in the United States. We don´t have the luxury of focusing our efforts on one group; we must protect the country from terrorism whether foreign or homegrown, and regardless of the ideology that motivates its violence," Ms. Napolitano said.

• Related article: Legion objects to vets as terror risk

"We are on the lookout for criminal and terrorist activity but we do not — nor will we ever — monitor ideology or political beliefs. We take seriously our responsibility to protect the civil rights and liberties of the American people, including subjecting our activities to rigorous oversight from numerous internal and external sources," Ms. Napolitano said.

The nine-page document titled "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," has caused an outcry from veterans groups, Republican lawmakers and conservative activists.

"Rightwing extremism," the report defines in a footnote on Page 2, goes beyond religious and racial hate groups and extends to "those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely."

"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," said the report, which also listed as suspect gun owners and veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

The American Legion on Tuesday criticized the report as unfairly stereotyping veterans.

"I am aware of the letter from American Legion National Commander (David) Rehbein, and my staff has already contacted him to set up a meeting next week once I return from travel. I will tell him face-to-face that we honor veterans at DHS and employ thousands across the department, up to and including the Deputy Secretary," Ms. Napolitano said.

"As the department responsible for protecting the homeland, DHS will continue to work with its state and local partners to prevent and protect against the potential threat to the United States associated with any rise in violent extremist activity," Ms. Napolitano said.


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Anonymous

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What they don't tell you is that there is also one on the Left Wing Extremists and Extremist Groups - and that both assessments were authorized by and conducted by/under the Bush Administration- and are now being released to the public....
 

woranch

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Oldtimer said:
What they don't tell you is that there is also one on the Left Wing Extremists and Extremist Groups - and that both assessments were authorized by and conducted by/under the Bush Administration- and are now being released to the public....


Post the link or where you got the info....
 
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woranch said:
Oldtimer said:
What they don't tell you is that there is also one on the Left Wing Extremists and Extremist Groups - and that both assessments were authorized by and conducted by/under the Bush Administration- and are now being released to the public....


Post the link or where you got the info....

They just had a special report on CNN about the reports...It brought up that this is one of the irony's about the rightwingernuts screaming and ranting...It was done under Bush's direction and under Bush's Watch..
 

hypocritexposer

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BS, the democrats were against anything Bush Administration, or how they were infringing on peoples civil rights, that's why you voted for Obama, remember?

Have you read it yet OT? How do you feel about LE determining whether you are to be watched do to your political beliefs? The good thing is that they are all too busy now reporting to DHS on themselves.


and that both assessments were authorized by and conducted by/under the Bush Administration


(U//LES) Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning

But I will agree with you, they need to start living in the present and not the past

(U//FOUO) During the 1990s, these issues contributed to the growth in the number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups and an increase in violent acts targeting government facilities, law enforcement officers, banks, and infrastructure sectors.


(U) A recent example of the potential violence associated with a rise in rightwing extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009
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hypocritexposer said:
BS, the democrats were against anything Bush Administration, or how they were infringing on peoples civil rights, that's why you voted for Obama, remember?

Have you read it yet OT? How do you feel about LE determining whether you are to be watched do to your political beliefs? The good thing is that they are all too busy now reporting to DHS on themselves.


and that both assessments were authorized by and conducted by/under the Bush Administration


(U//LES) Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning

But I will agree with you, they need to start living in the present and not the past

(U//FOUO) During the 1990s, these issues contributed to the growth in the number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups and an increase in violent acts targeting government facilities, law enforcement officers, banks, and infrastructure sectors.


(U) A recent example of the potential violence associated with a rise in rightwing extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009
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hypocrit- its been going on for years...FBI/Justice Depart has done risk assessments on extremist people/groups and published for LE Agencies for years ....Greenpeace and some of the Tree Huggers- Klan- Aryan Nation- Biker Groups-AntiAbortion Groups that were doing shootings/bombings- etc etc...

We used to have local cross border meetings-(Regina, Cornach, Lethbridge, Great Falls, Glasgow, Plentywood,etc etc) where the US and Canadian officials would exchange info off these assesments on some of these groups/people travelling both sides of the border...At the Law Enforcement awards ceremony the other day- I was able to talk with many old immigration and border patrol folks I had worked with- and they confirmed they still have them...Altho they said the Canucks couldn't drink beer as well as they used to :wink:
 

hypocritexposer

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hypocrit- its been going on for years...FBI/Justice Depart has done risk assessments on extremist people/groups and published for LE Agencies for years ....Greenpeace and some of the Tree Huggers- Klan- Aryan Nation- Biker Groups-AntiAbortion Groups that were doing shootings/bombings- etc etc...

You mean these groups actually have names! This report is a little more vague than that.

How many millions of veterans are there? And how many disagree with Obama's policies? Why group them all together, without a specific name/group? Why do Liberals hate the military so much, they don't seem to have a problem taking credit due to them and placing it on Obama, when they save a Captains life from Pirates!

Well now they have a Label too, "Right Wing Extremists",
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
What they don't tell you is that there is also one on the Left Wing Extremists and Extremist Groups - and that both assessments were authorized by and conducted by/under the Bush Administration- and are now being released to the public....
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Keep in mind this was right after 9/11 and anybody that sneezed in public got checked out..right, left or center.
 
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hypocritexposer said:
hypocrit- its been going on for years...FBI/Justice Depart has done risk assessments on extremist people/groups and published for LE Agencies for years ....Greenpeace and some of the Tree Huggers- Klan- Aryan Nation- Biker Groups-AntiAbortion Groups that were doing shootings/bombings- etc etc...

You mean these groups actually have names! This report is a little more vague than that.

How many millions of veterans are there? And how many disagree with Obama's policies? Why group them all together, without a specific name/group? Why do Liberals hate the military so much, they don't seem to have a problem taking credit due to them and placing it on Obama, when they save a Captains life from Pirates!

Well now they have a Label too, "Right Wing Extremists",

Some do- some don't-- some are pretty informal groups--- Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, John Allen Muhammad and Lee Malvo.....
 

hypocritexposer

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Read the Document OT, let us know your honest opinion if they should have ever written a document so liberally biased in it's verbatim/language and intention?

When read in it's entirety it is pretty obvious. The WH backing away from it, and the public outrage, proves it is pretty obvious.

These aren't mass murderers or terrorists that are feeling targeted, they are regular citizens, and veterans/active duty.

They'll remember come election time, I'm sure.

Secretary of DHS needs to be fired for this! If not for letting a document so obviously biased politically, to be written then because of her complete incompetence to keep such documents secure.

She is running a security agency, isn't she?
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
hypocrit- its been going on for years...FBI/Justice Depart has done risk assessments on extremist people/groups and published for LE Agencies for years ....Greenpeace and some of the Tree Huggers- Klan- Aryan Nation- Biker Groups-AntiAbortion Groups that were doing shootings/bombings- etc etc...

You mean these groups actually have names! This report is a little more vague than that.

How many millions of veterans are there? And how many disagree with Obama's policies? Why group them all together, without a specific name/group? Why do Liberals hate the military so much, they don't seem to have a problem taking credit due to them and placing it on Obama, when they save a Captains life from Pirates!

Well now they have a Label too, "Right Wing Extremists",

Some do- some don't-- some are pretty informal groups--- Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, John Allen Muhammad and Lee Malvo.....

Bill Ayers? Bernadine Dohrn (sp?) Weather Underground?
 

MsSage

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OT please post a link to the leftwing radical group.

I cant understand how you can defend our government lumping so many people into the group terrorist. If you read the report I am SURE you would be on it...hmmm maybe thats why your so pro obama ...trying to get off the list and be left alone???????
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Secretary of DHS needs to be fired for this! If not for letting a document so obviously biased politically, to be written then because of her complete incompetence to keep such documents secure.

She is running a security agency, isn't she?

Oh- I can guarantee this one isn't the secure one...This is the general type that gets put out to all law enforcement- and usually/always ends up public-- but before nobody whined about them....

The secure info is in databases/info centers that altho "governmentally financed" are not government... :???:
And guess which President signed them into law in 1983 after Congress authorized them :???:

http://rmin.rissinfo.com/
 

hopalong

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MsSage said:
OT please post a link to the leftwing radical group.

I cant understand how you can defend our government lumping so many people into the group terrorist. If you read the report I am SURE you would be on it...hmmm maybe thats why your so pro obama ...trying to get off the list and be left alone???????

He is on it because of all the bold faced lies he tells :liar:
EH??
OH VEY
 

Ben H

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If they don't tread on the constitution, or us, they should haven nothing to worry about, why is that so difficult?
 

Lonecowboy

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Ben H said:
If they don't tread on the constitution, or us, they should haven nothing to worry about, why is that so difficult?

Amen Ben -- I was just thinking that same thing.

It's the same libs who want to say foreign terrorist attacks are America's fault (arrogant, derisive, etc.) that are behind this.

If obama and company don't want to worry about this, securs the borders, leave our guns (and other rights) alone, quit funding abortions,
quit spending our grandchildren's money, etc.

You have quite a presidency if you fear your citizens more than "enemy combatants" What's that say about your policies??
 

hypocritexposer

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Anybody see any similarities to this quote and what's included in the DHS RWE report.

So it's not surprising, then, that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

OT, what's the purpose of these reports anyways? Would I be wrong in saying the purpose is to "aid law enforcement in their ability to direct resources to potential threats"?
 
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hypocritexposer said:
OT, what's the purpose of these reports anyways? Would I be wrong in saying the purpose is to "aid law enforcement in their ability to direct resources to potential threats"?

And to make them aware of where potential threats may be coming from....In our area we had little to do with the left wing extremists- most those were in the western part of the state...But we did have the rightwingernuts- posse, freemen, some John Birchers that were deep into the survivalist movement- some anti-tax folks...Most caused little or no problem because they had little following even tho some tried to disrupt public activities such as repossessions or Sheriffs Sales- and some tried to intimidate public officials...
But we were aware of them- and we made neighboring areas where they traveled aware of their activities and tactics...
 

hypocritexposer

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Well if that is the purpose of the reports, then one is in serious danger of hitting the trash can.

You might as well of just listened to Obama's campaign speeches, you would have gotten as much intel.

So it's not surprising, then, that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Well if that is the purpose of the reports, then one is in serious danger of hitting the trash can.

You might as well of just listened to Obama's campaign speeches, you would have gotten as much intel.

Like I posted yesterday-- that is just a broad overview that goes to all the agencies-- the real intel (the real good stuff about you :wink: ) is in the individual agencies databases- and are available only on a need to know basis...
 
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