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National Review Editors Endorses Obama

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Wick Allison came out earlier this week with a formal endorsement of Barack Obama. For those of you who don't know much about Wick, he was asked by William F. Buckley to join the board of directors of the National Review in 1985, and then became the magazine's publisher in 1990, where he remained until 1994. Nobody would discredit Allison's conservative credentials. As he points out in his endorsement, he's been a conservative since 1964, when he organized his local Youth for Goldwater chapter at the age of 16.

Here's part of Allison's take on the presidential race:

[Barack Obama is not my ideal candidate for president. (In fact, I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses.) But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don’t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama’s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.

What's even more amazing about Allison's endorsement is that it's not an isolated incident. In February, Jeffrey Hart endorsed Barack, even though the primaries were far from over. Hart has been with The National Review since 1962 and is still a senior editor with the magazine.

Here's some of Hart's perspective from his February interview:

And so it is that Jeffrey Hart counts himself a member of Obama's “new American majority” -- a group of voters the Illinois senator says are fed up with the partisan excesses and wrangling of the last two decades and eager for a practical, cooperative approach to the issues that have divided Washington.

“It turns out that these political parties are not always either liberal or conservative, Democratic or Republican,” Hart, a 77-year-old with thick white hair who lives in Lyme, said in an interview at his home yesterday. “The Democrat, under certain conditions, can be the conservative.”
Allison and Hart are two proud, self-proclaimed conservatives, and they've backed Barack.
 

Texan

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Once again, you post something in an effort to mislead. In this case, it's the title that is misleading:

Oldtimer said:
National Review Editors Endorses Obama

Wick Allison has been gone from NR for 15 years - so he's not an editor. And his claim that Obama offers "a deeply conservative view of the world" is downright laughable. I don't think Wick Allison even knows what a conservative is anymore.

So...you actually have only one editor that has endorsed Obama. Maybe you'd like to claim it was a typo? :lol:

And even though Jeffrey Hart is still technically an editor, he's 77 years old and has been there for 45 years. That kind of age and tenure is a credibility problem for McCain with you libs, isn't it? But now this guy is credible? Why the double standard now?

If anyone is interested in reading what the National Review Online has to say about the situation, here's the link:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NGJhZGRjNmQ1YWQ4MWU2NzAwYzhjYmNlMWE5OTU0MzA=
 

VanC

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From the National Review website:

"I'll just add that I think this continued effort to point to a groundswell of conservatives flocking to Obama is hilarious. It's just not true. Going by the polls, independents and conservative Democrats support McCain far more than the other way around."

That pretty much says it all for me. There are always going to be those that stray from the reservation, so to speak. So what? Different people have different reasons for voting for a particular candidate, or for endorsing one. I don't know anything about this Allison guy, but anyone that thinks his endorsement is going to affect me is grasping at straws. Heck, I have friends that I love and respect that say they are going to vote for Obama, but I'm not. They have their reasons, I have mine. To me it just proves one thing: As much as the far left and the far right want everyone to think and act the same, it ain't gonna happen. Diversity of thought is alive and well.
 
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And even though Jeffrey Hart is still technically an editor, he's 77 years old and has been there for 45 years. That kind of age and tenure is a credibility problem for McCain with you libs, isn't it? But now this guy is credible? Why the double standard now?

I'm glad to see you admit that McCains being older than dirt is that negative a factor- altho, this other old codger ain't running to be the most important leader in the world-- that will need someone with all his thought process's and stamina to accomplish the job- only to vote for one-- which is quite an easier task...And it appears he has came up with the only natural decision if you have been around/reporting on government/politics that long....
 

VanC

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Oldtimer said:
And even though Jeffrey Hart is still technically an editor, he's 77 years old and has been there for 45 years. That kind of age and tenure is a credibility problem for McCain with you libs, isn't it? But now this guy is credible? Why the double standard now?

I'm glad to see you admit that McCains being older than dirt is that negative a factor- altho, this other old codger ain't running to be the most important leader in the world-- that will need someone with all his thought process's and stamina to accomplish the job- only to vote for one-- which is quite an easier task...And it appears he has came up with the only natural decision if you have been around/reporting on government/politics that long....

It's ONE MAN, for crying out loud!! So, what? There are plenty of people that have just as much experience that have endorsed McCain. This means nothing. Give it a rest. :roll:
 
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VanC said:
Oldtimer said:
And even though Jeffrey Hart is still technically an editor, he's 77 years old and has been there for 45 years. That kind of age and tenure is a credibility problem for McCain with you libs, isn't it? But now this guy is credible? Why the double standard now?

I'm glad to see you admit that McCains being older than dirt is that negative a factor- altho, this other old codger ain't running to be the most important leader in the world-- that will need someone with all his thought process's and stamina to accomplish the job- only to vote for one-- which is quite an easier task...And it appears he has came up with the only natural decision if you have been around/reporting on government/politics that long....

It's ONE MAN, for crying out loud!! So, what? There are plenty of people that have just as much experience that have endorsed McCain. This means nothing. Give it a rest. :roll:

Texan seemed to think it was vitally important...You neocons are starting to sound like old McSame- No regulation- now regulate everything----no bailout- now bailout everything and set up a whole new bureaucracy... You folks gotta learn how to make up your minds :wink: :lol: :p
 

Larrry

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Oh we have made up our mind.
1 McCain and Palin will kick the obama Regimes but
2 the libs will cry to recount the votes
3 ot needs to stay behind the computer, we couldn't trust him with anything else.
4 the libs will continue to cry and make fools of themselves
 

Texan

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Oldtimer said:
And even though Jeffrey Hart is still technically an editor, he's 77 years old and has been there for 45 years. That kind of age and tenure is a credibility problem for McCain with you libs, isn't it? But now this guy is credible? Why the double standard now?

I'm glad to see you admit that McCains being older than dirt is that negative a factor- altho, this other old codger ain't running to be the most important leader in the world-- that will need someone with all his thought process's and stamina to accomplish the job- only to vote for one-- which is quite an easier task...And it appears he has came up with the only natural decision if you have been around/reporting on government/politics that long....
I haven't admitted any such thing and you know it. You libs are the ones that seem to think age is such a big factor now. Kinda funny coming from somebody that likes to quote Ronald Reagan.

But once again, you've resorted to what has become typical of many of your posts. You get caught posting a lie, and instead of being honest and having enough integrity to admit it, you try to change the subject. You're a good little liberal, aren't you? :lol:
 

Larrry

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These left wing libs who quote Reagan are only trying to sound unbiased. They are just hanging onto Reagans shirtail trying to gain credibility. Won't work. There is no way in heck that a real Reagan fan could vote for Oblahblah.
They try to portray themselves a fan of conservatism but when it comes to voting they bypass McCain(granted no conservative) and jump over to the most ulta left wing radical in history. Go try telling someone else your blather.
If it walks, talks, thinks like a ultra left wing liberal and you vote for him you are a ultra left wing liberal
 
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Texan said:
Oldtimer said:
And even though Jeffrey Hart is still technically an editor, he's 77 years old and has been there for 45 years. That kind of age and tenure is a credibility problem for McCain with you libs, isn't it? But now this guy is credible? Why the double standard now?

I'm glad to see you admit that McCains being older than dirt is that negative a factor- altho, this other old codger ain't running to be the most important leader in the world-- that will need someone with all his thought process's and stamina to accomplish the job- only to vote for one-- which is quite an easier task...And it appears he has came up with the only natural decision if you have been around/reporting on government/politics that long....
I haven't admitted any such thing and you know it. You libs are the ones that seem to think age is such a big factor now. Kinda funny coming from somebody that likes to quote Ronald Reagan.

But once again, you've resorted to what has become typical of many of your posts. You get caught posting a lie, and instead of being honest and having enough integrity to admit it, you try to change the subject. You're a good little liberal, aren't you? :lol:

No lies- and I can't help it if you can't understand what it says- and think it says something else...
Both these guys were with the very conservative National Review-
Both these guys are conservatives now supporting Obama over McSame..
 

Texan

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Oldtimer said:
No lies- and I can't help it if you can't understand what it says- and think it says something else...
Both these guys were with the very conservative National Review-
Both these guys are conservatives now supporting Obama over McSame..
Pretty weak, Oldtimer. Is that your newest response to being caught posting lies AGAIN? Denial? You're a good little liberal, aren't you? :lol:
 

loomixguy

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Oldtimer said:
No lies- and I can't help it if you can't understand what it says- and think it says something else...
Both these guys were with the very conservative National Review-
Both these guys are lunatic old codgers now supporting Obama over McSame..

FIXED :lol:
 
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