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ND Lawmakers Drafting Gun Protection Laws

hypocritexposer

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"We can't stop the feds from doing what they're going to do but what we can do is say that local officials can't help in anyway, investigate, prosecute, therefore the ATF will have to enforce the new law," says Streyle.

Representative Bette Grande of Fargo says, "It's very timely because of discussion on federal level, federal government try to tell us as citizens how they want guns regulated. We as states have those scissions made in our own constitutions. We want to see our constitutional rights upheld."

Representative Keith Kempenich is also drafting a bill that would make every North Dakotan's that has a drivers license a concealed weapon permit holder.

"If you are going to have people pushing extremes on one side, you push extremes on the other side," says Kempenich.

http://www.kxnet.com/story/20566832/nd-lawmakers-drafting-gun-protection-laws
 
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hypocritexposer said:
"We can't stop the feds from doing what they're going to do but what we can do is say that local officials can't help in anyway, investigate, prosecute, therefore the ATF will have to enforce the new law," says Streyle.

Representative Bette Grande of Fargo says, "It's very timely because of discussion on federal level, federal government try to tell us as citizens how they want guns regulated. We as states have those scissions made in our own constitutions. We want to see our constitutional rights upheld."

Representative Keith Kempenich is also drafting a bill that would make every North Dakotan's that has a drivers license a concealed weapon permit holder.

"If you are going to have people pushing extremes on one side, you push extremes on the other side," says Kempenich.

http://www.kxnet.com/story/20566832/nd-lawmakers-drafting-gun-protection-laws

I've always said altho ND is the brunt of all our jokes in this area-- they are miles ahead of all other states in lots of areas...

I see no reason they can not legally do this- and apparently they realize the Wyoming "banning federal officers" is like blowing smoke into the wind...
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
and apparently they realize the Wyoming "banning federal officers" is like blowing smoke into the wind...


Oh, is that what the Wyoming legislation says? You have obviously read it.


:roll:


Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.


Anyone trying to enforce a federal gun ban could face felony charges under the proposal. It also includes a provision allowing the Wyoming Attorney General’s office to defend any state resident against any federal firearm ban.


Nope I haven't read the legislation... But the article indicated they were going to try and make it illegal to enforce some federal laws- even by Federal Agents (Anyone)....
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
and apparently they realize the Wyoming "banning federal officers" is like blowing smoke into the wind...


Oh, is that what the Wyoming legislation says? You have obviously read it.


:roll:


Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.


Anyone trying to enforce a federal gun ban could face felony charges under the proposal. It also includes a provision allowing the Wyoming Attorney General’s office to defend any state resident against any federal firearm ban.


Nope I haven't read the legislation... But the article indicated they were going to try and make it illegal to enforce some federal laws- even by Federal Agents (Anyone)....


so you just repeat what some "journalist" interprets the legislation to mean?

Looks like you believe some "rightwinger nut" who is "just blowing smoke up some gullible folks arses"

:lol: :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oh, is that what the Wyoming legislation says? You have obviously read it.


:roll:


Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.


Anyone trying to enforce a federal gun ban could face felony charges under the proposal. It also includes a provision allowing the Wyoming Attorney General’s office to defend any state resident against any federal firearm ban.


Nope I haven't read the legislation... But the article indicated they were going to try and make it illegal to enforce some federal laws- even by Federal Agents (Anyone)....


so you just repeat what some "journalist" interprets the legislation to mean?

Looks like you believe some "rightwinger nut" who is "while just blowing smoke up some gullible folks arses"

:lol: :lol:

Could be-- you and your rightwingernuts are known for that... :wink: :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
Nope I haven't read the legislation... But the article indicated they were going to try and make it illegal to enforce some federal laws- even by Federal Agents (Anyone)....


so you just repeat what some "journalist" interprets the legislation to mean?

Looks like you believe some "rightwinger nut" who is "while just blowing smoke up some gullible folks arses"

:lol: :lol:

Could be-- you and your rightwingernuts are known for that... :wink: :lol:


Maybe before you start trying to do the same, you should read the actual legislation, like I did :wink:
 

Mike

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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
so you just repeat what some "journalist" interprets the legislation to mean?

Looks like you believe some "rightwinger nut" who is "while just blowing smoke up some gullible folks arses"

:lol: :lol:

Could be-- you and your rightwingernuts are known for that... :wink: :lol:


Maybe before you start trying to do the same, you should read the actual legislation, like I did :wink:

I doubt he could read legislation written in "legaleeze" or maybe even English. :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
and apparently they realize the Wyoming "banning federal officers" is like blowing smoke into the wind...


Oh, is that what the Wyoming legislation says? You have obviously read it.


:roll:


Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.


Anyone trying to enforce a federal gun ban could face felony charges under the proposal. It also includes a provision allowing the Wyoming Attorney General’s office to defend any state resident against any federal firearm ban.

Yep- I read it.. And in a nutshell the description pretty well sums it up-- and makes several parts of it unconstitutional- so illegal..

It is a comedy that these gun rights folks that shout "The Constitution" from the hilltops--only want to follow it when it fits their agendas.... :wink: :p :lol:
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oh, is that what the Wyoming legislation says? You have obviously read it.


:roll:


Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.


Anyone trying to enforce a federal gun ban could face felony charges under the proposal. It also includes a provision allowing the Wyoming Attorney General’s office to defend any state resident against any federal firearm ban.

Yep- I read it.. And in a nutshell the description pretty well sums it up-- and makes several parts of it unconstitutional- so illegal..

It is a comedy that these gun rights folks that shout "The Constitution" from the hilltops--only want to follow it when it fits their agendas.... :wink: :p :lol:

Speaking of "Unconstitutional", what part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
It is a comedy that these gun rights folks that shout "The Constitution" from the hilltops--only want to follow it when it fits their agendas.... :wink: :p :lol:

Sort of like you and your outrage about Bush violating habeas corpus.
 

Mike

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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
It is a comedy that these gun rights folks that shout "The Constitution" from the hilltops--only want to follow it when it fits their agendas.... :wink: :p :lol:

Sort of like you and your outrage about Bush violating habeas corpus.

for "enemy combatants". :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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The only way the Wyoming law has any hope of holding up thru the courts- just like the Montana law- is if none of the banned products (guns/magazines) are ever found outside the State...

And if there is a nationwide ban- that will greatly raise the demand and value so much that I think it will be impossible that they not be found going into interstate commerce...

Personally I don't think any gun ban bills stand a chance of passing Congress (possibly not even the D controlled Senate) and am some what skeptical if even any magazine bans can pass...
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
So the Wyoming legislation is the same as Montana's in what regards?

The products have to be made in- used in- and never leave the state....
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
So the Wyoming legislation is the same as Montana's in what regards?

The products have to be made in- used in- and never leave the state....


so, is Montana's Constitutional?

I don't know... I think its being challenged right now...

Historically the courts over the past few years and the SCOTUS have not been very big backers of states rights- rather leaning toward nationalization and interstate commerce rulings...
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
I don't know... I think its being challenged right now...

Historically the courts over the past few years and the SCOTUS have not been very big backers of states rights- rather leaning toward nationalization and interstate commerce rulings...


Just wait until obama nominates one more, if not 2. It will get worse
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
The products have to be made in- used in- and never leave the state....


so, is Montana's Constitutional?

I don't know... I think its being challenged right now...

Historically the courts over the past few years and the SCOTUS have not been very big backers of states rights- rather leaning toward nationalization and interstate commerce rulings...

Montana's "Freedom Firearms Act" is not being heard by the 9th as an "Interstate Commerce" implication. Wonder why? The Feds cannot win it as such.

The 9th Circuit has "stayed" this case until "Nordyke" is decided. (Has been in the courts for over 10 years) Nordyke is about whether a gun show can be held on public grounds in California.

In short, the 9th has totally screwed up this case and is punting. Holder has convinced the 9th to drag it's feet until a more Liberal Scotus will have arrived by appointment from Buckwheat so they can uphold it instead of reversing it.

As OT has said himself, the County Sheriff's and each State gets to decide who owns, carries (concealed AND open) guns in the U.S. The problem with this is the Feds have no say so and want that control.

OT better hope the Montana case gets decided by SCOTUS before Buckwheat makes another appointment because his (and ALL sheriffs) piddly little authority will be shot to hell.

This is when a rebellion will rightfully occur.

http://firearmsfreedomact.com/updates/MSSA%20v.%20Holder%20-%2061.%20Order%20Staying%20Proceedings%20Pending%20En%20Banc%20Hrg%20in%20Nordyke%20-%20122011.pdf

P.S. Did I mention OT is an idiot and has no idea of what he's speaking of?
 
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