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Neb. Pipeline Route Cleared Last Month
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Mike said:December 30, 2011 9:33am
Nebraska clears new Keystone route. Where's Obama?
byMark Tapscott Editor
Nebraska environmental officials have announced approval of a new route for the proposed Keystone XL pipeline that would take Canadian oil to refineries in Oklahoma and Texas. The new route would direct the pipeline around an environmentally sensitive region in the Cornhusker state's Sand Hills.
Worries about Sand Hills and the potential impact on underground water resources in the region were cited by President Obama in November when he opted to delay making a decision on whether to approve the pipeline until after the 2012 election.
But with state approval of an alternative route for the pipeline, there is no longer any reason to delay approval, according to the Institute for Energy Research's Tom Pyle:
"Now that Nebraska has provided a clear map to develop the Keystone XL pipeline in a way that avoids environmentally sensitive areas in the Sandhills region to the satisfaction of state regulators, the Obama administration must act immediately to authorize the pipeline's construction, which has now run up more than $1 billion in unnecessary costs due to bureaucratic delay," said Pyle, who is IER's president.
"Nebraskans know best how to care for their environment, and state officials have given industry a green light to proceed. Thousands of unemployed Americans from Montana to Texas are ready for the much-needed jobs that Keystone XL will create.
"American consumers are unnecessarily sending more than $70 million overseas for oil that we could otherwise be purchasing from a reliable North American trade partner. Further administration delays only serve to imperil an economic recovery in America's heartland and weaken our national security. The president must stop appeasing his anti-affordable energy lobbyists and authorize Keystone XL. No more excuses, Mr. President."
But apparently besides the State Dept not having enough time- the XL pipeline themselves haven't had enough time to be able to decide if the Nebraska Legislature proposed route is workable- or develop a new plan and proposal...
New Route for Keystone XL Pipeline Nearly Done
general admin posted on January 12, 2012 08:44 :: 181 Views
The following article is from the Associated Press:
by James MacPherson
BISMARCK, N.D.—An executive with a Canadian company attempting to build a $7 billion pipeline to carry oil from Canada to refineries along the Gulf Coast says a new proposed route will be proposed soon.
Speaking Wednesday in Bismarck, TransCanada Corp.'s Alex Pourbaix told North Dakota officials and oil industry representatives that the company would present its amended plan to federal regulators "in a matter of a very few weeks."
The U.S. government in November delayed a decision on granting a permit for Keystone XL, largely because of worries about the pipeline's environmental impact, especially in Nebraska.
The disputed route runs through six states from Canada to Texas. So-called feeder pipelines would connect the Keystone XL to the rich oil fields in North Dakota and Montana.
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Mike
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Yea boy! Anything for a delay until the election..........huh? :roll:
But with state approval of an alternative route for the pipeline, there is no longer any reason to delay approval, according to the Institute for Energy Research's Tom Pyle:
"Now that Nebraska has provided a clear map to develop the Keystone XL pipeline in a way that avoids environmentally sensitive areas in the Sandhills region to the satisfaction of state regulators, the Obama administration must act immediately to authorize the pipeline's construction, which has now run up more than $1 billion in unnecessary costs due to bureaucratic delay," said Pyle, who is IER's president.
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Mike said:Yea boy! Anything for a delay until the election..........huh? :roll:
But with state approval of an alternative route for the pipeline, there is no longer any reason to delay approval, according to the Institute for Energy Research's Tom Pyle:
"Now that Nebraska has provided a clear map to develop the Keystone XL pipeline in a way that avoids environmentally sensitive areas in the Sandhills region to the satisfaction of state regulators, the Obama administration must act immediately to authorize the pipeline's construction, which has now run up more than $1 billion in unnecessary costs due to bureaucratic delay," said Pyle, who is IER's president.
Actually in this area- and possibly the whole State-- it will lose Obama votes...
But like I said before- I would rather see him cross all the t's- and dot all the i's-- and follow normal policy and procedure-- rather than give a ruling on a proposal that isn't even complete (parts haven't even been decided/proposed by the pipeline)- and possibly lose everything by giving more ammo to the Nebraska NIMBY's and Greeny Weenies when they file an EPA suit (which I'm sure some will)....
If you are going to do it- do it the right way and not leave yourself (the government and XL) wide open for an injunction totally halting the program....
Mike
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Are you really as stupid as you seem? :roll:
Just because you repeat a lie does not make it true. :???:
Just because you repeat a lie does not make it true. :???:
Sandhusker
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If Obama was serious about creating jobs, helping with energy independence, etc.... as he CLAIMS, he would do all that he could to make this deal work. However, you can clearly see that actions are speaking louder than his hollow words.
Mike
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Sandhusker said:If Obama was serious about creating jobs, helping with energy independence, etc.... as he CLAIMS, he would do all that he could to make this deal work. However, you can clearly see that actions are speaking louder than his hollow words.
Buckwheat is hell bent to delay this thing until after the election. The nationwide greenies far outnumber the few folks in the area...............
After he gets elected, he don't care. :roll:
Larrry
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There are two people who I can not believe, obama and ot. obama has his reasons and he is understandable on his agenda, but ot has to have his head so far up obamas azz that he is reading obamas teleprompter.
Mike
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OT's grandkids must be on foodstamps and/or welfare?
hypocritexposer
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"I, as President of the US of America, have approved the sections of the XL pipeline, that the state dept, has approved previously, that do not travel through the state of Nebraska. As I understand it .....a plan has been proposed by Transalta and approved by the NE regulatory bodies, so we will allow this pipeline construction to begin, and the state Dept. will evaluate the changes through NE and offer any recommendations we can, to improve upon the plan and possibility of increased job creation in that state, as we have done through the corridor, that this pipeline will travel.
Looking at the scientific and environmental studies that were previously approved and the ones that are sure to come, I feel confident that Transalta will meet all their obligations in NE, as approved by the state in question.
This project will bring many job opportunites to the states involved at a time that they are much needed. This private enterprise project allows us to further and more quickly reach our goals of energy independence and job creation within our Country"
We thank the Canada companies and people for their continued patronage and support........
Looking at the scientific and environmental studies that were previously approved and the ones that are sure to come, I feel confident that Transalta will meet all their obligations in NE, as approved by the state in question.
This project will bring many job opportunites to the states involved at a time that they are much needed. This private enterprise project allows us to further and more quickly reach our goals of energy independence and job creation within our Country"
We thank the Canada companies and people for their continued patronage and support........
Steve
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The proposal requires President Obama's approval because it crosses an international border.
nothing more...
if XL requested a pipeline to Montana and let it stop in the middle of the state..
the president would have to approve of the pipeline...
but they can propose a pipeline from Texas to Montana without presidential approval..
I would break the pipeline into two projects.. one "completely stateside", and one segment that crosses the border...
Lonecowboy
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oldtimer wrote:
How foolish......... if a President were chosen by popular vote it might really matter, but obama doesn't stand a chance of getting Montana's 3 electoral votes no matter what he does or who he runs against, and he could care less. obama is after the hundreds of electoral votes at stake in the populated liberal states like california. he threw 20,000 jobs under the bus!
it's called politics over principle oldtimer!
Actually in this area- and possibly the whole State-- it will lose Obama votes...
How foolish......... if a President were chosen by popular vote it might really matter, but obama doesn't stand a chance of getting Montana's 3 electoral votes no matter what he does or who he runs against, and he could care less. obama is after the hundreds of electoral votes at stake in the populated liberal states like california. he threw 20,000 jobs under the bus!
it's called politics over principle oldtimer!
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Lonecowboy said:oldtimer wrote:
Actually in this area- and possibly the whole State-- it will lose Obama votes...
How foolish......... if a President were chosen by popular vote it might really matter, but obama doesn't stand a chance of getting Montana's 3 electoral votes no matter what he does or who he runs against, and he could care less. obama is after the hundreds of electoral votes at stake in the populated liberal states like california. he threw 20,000 jobs under the bus!
it's called politics over principle oldtimer!
Politicians have been playing politics for over 200 years...Both the R and D cults play politics...After reading what the Canadian Prime Minister said I'm still convinced that the XL will go thru as soon as they can find an alternate route thru NIMBY country - and get a study done on that route and put together a proposal....But that won't be done til after the election...
But in the political partisanship that now dominates Washington- Obama has said that he is the Admistrator- and that it will be done on his timeline- rather than the R parties trying to go around standard policy and procedure..... Builds him support with some of his base- gives better success to the Pipeline being able to hold up to any court challenges- and eventually will get approval when the objections of the landowners can be satisfied...
The president explained that the decision was not a decision on the merits of the project and that it was without prejudice, meaning that TransCanada is free to reapply. Prime Minister Harper expressed his profound disappointment with the news. He indicated to President Obama that he hoped that this project would continue given the significant contribution it would make to jobs and economic growth both in Canada and the United States of America.
Actually- I've heard a couple of landowners praising the holdup and restudy decision because it backs what Interior Secretary Salazar promised would be their policy on issues involving private and federal land reclassification (like Monumuments, Wilderness areas, etc. etc) and that they would follow the direction the local population wanted....
hypocritexposer
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Oldtimer said:Lonecowboy said:oldtimer wrote:
Actually in this area- and possibly the whole State-- it will lose Obama votes...
How foolish......... if a President were chosen by popular vote it might really matter, but obama doesn't stand a chance of getting Montana's 3 electoral votes no matter what he does or who he runs against, and he could care less. obama is after the hundreds of electoral votes at stake in the populated liberal states like california. he threw 20,000 jobs under the bus!
it's called politics over principle oldtimer!
Politicians have been playing politics for over 200 years...Both the R and D cults play politics...After reading what the Canadian Prime Minister said I'm still convinced that the XL will go thru as soon as they can find an alternate route thru NIMBY country - and get a study done on that route and put together a proposal....But that won't be done til after the election...
But in the political partisanship that now dominates Washington- Obama has said that he is the Admistrator- and that it will be done on his timeline- rather than the R parties trying to go around standard policy and procedure..... Builds him support with some of his base- gives better success to the Pipeline being able to hold up to any court challenges- and eventually will get approval when the objections of the landowners can be satisfied...
The president explained that the decision was not a decision on the merits of the project and that it was without prejudice, meaning that TransCanada is free to reapply. Prime Minister Harper expressed his profound disappointment with the news. He indicated to President Obama that he hoped that this project would continue given the significant contribution it would make to jobs and economic growth both in Canada and the United States of America.
Actually- I've heard a couple of landowners praising the holdup and restudy decision because it backs what Interior Secretary Salazar promised would be their policy on issues involving private and federal land reclassification (like Monumuments, Wilderness areas, etc. etc) and that they would follow the direction the local population wanted....
yep those High Speed rail projects were caught up for years before they were given stimulus money, because they were "shovel ready"
