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CattleRMe

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Frankk said:
It seems to me hypocritcal of us in agriculture to criticize the young white single mother of taking subsidies, while a fellow in my area who lives in a mansion and winters in some southern state, according to EWG , draws a huge amount in farm subsidies. Also FH people shouldn't be ashamed of collecting on a system they paid in on for years, some folks say we get a poor rate of return at that.

Good point.
 

Jinglebob

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Faster horses said:
ranchwife, what happened to your father is what the assistance was meant for. He had no control over the accident or anything following; there is no shame in those kind of situations. Too bad he felt shamed, but I guess that is what honest, hard-working people do.

I can remember as a child, going to visit relatives in Missouri and the discussion was Social Security. Those folks didn't want it. They looked upon it as a hand out...and they were too proud for that. I honestly think some of those old-timers refused it. Far cry from today.

I had an Uncle who was well off and probably thought of as rich by many. When he turned the age to draw social security, he went in and told them he didn't want or need it and to give it to those who did. He fought and fought with them and finally gave up and took it and sent the amount he recieved every month, to his favorite charity. When he died he left half of his estate to Boys Town. He was a nice guy and helped suppoted his family of 10 siblings at a young age, when their father died.
 

the chief

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Another thing, how are we realistically going to round up all, or even a substantial portion, of the illegals that are already in this country. Too much red tape and leg work required;

Well, I suggest you start by looking at the packing plants first. That would take care of a big portion of illegals.
:roll:
 

Steve

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Another thing, how are we realistically going to round up all, or even a substantial portion, of the illegals that are already in this country. Too much red tape and leg work required;

it is easy, secure the border......tell them there will not be an amnesty now or ever......

and whenever a illigal is pulled over, arrested, or in trouble with the law, send them packing.....

ironically those who live good lives and stay out of trouble would stay here, and the riftraft would be deported....

seems to me there is an acceptable solution ......if we at least try.....
 

theHiredMansWife

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The problem is, forged documentation is often quite good. They don't necessarily know they're hiring illegals.
Of course when you have companies like IBP who used to send recruiters into Mexico to convince people to come up here, you can pretty much bet they know they're getting illegals, too. :roll:
 

kolanuraven

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I ran a company for about 13 yrs and we worked a lot of Hispanic workers. I tired to be sooooo careful about the paperwork on the people we hired but the documents are SO perfect it's hard if not impossible to tell if they are fake.

When you try to call INS for some assistance....you end up on hold for 2 hrs and then they offer no help to you in deciphering documents. By then, you've wasted a whole day and just say " Screw it...get to work" and life rolls on!

The fake documents are so good!!!
 

Steve

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The fake documents are so good!!!

my wife while working at a check cashing "store" would hold several SS cards a week, none called the police to get them back, most knew they were fake, and her way of catching them baffled the illigals,

"talk to them".....ask how long they have been at the last address, then slip in a where are you from......most will say a border state,,,,while most fakes are from high population cities, such as New York of Chicago... thus the SS card number fails to match.
 

CattleRMe

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Some ranchers are willing to hire them just for cheap labor. Maybe the accoutablility also needs to be with those that hire the illegals.
 

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